No person can come to Christ by their own freewill !

[Doll]

Thank you for your time.

What good are you to JESUS if your not trying to reach the lost?

Don't waste the time of those who are.

You do you, best of luck.[/QUOTE]
I don't think you know what you're saying most times.
Whatever your game actually is here, it's unworthy of your time. And ours.

 

[sawdust]

Your title is true. No man can come to Christ of his own freewill, instead he responds to God's grace of his own freewill.

@rogerg

I think you are disagreeing simply to be obnoxious now for even those who hold to TULIP will say they respond freely to God's grace and are not forced to believe.

Are you saying God regenerated you and forced you to believe or did you willingly respond positively to His grace?

 

[Ouch]

I would like to know if you have been baptized with water.
If so, then I would like to know if you are totally confident that you are indeed saved. Are you 100% sure?

The first baptise church I went to I siad the man-made sinners prayer and was baptrized in JESUS titles and later was rebaptized according to GODS word.

I thought I was saved then but none of that is bible.

I sure have been baptized in JESUS name and JESUS has filled me with HIS spirit.

When JESUS filled me with HIS spirit it changed my life HE'S ALIVE and HE came in me.

That is the convincing part, anyone filled with HIS spirit can tell you.

Wonder what those 120 in the upper room was thinking when the Holy Ghost came upon them??

Need both to be reborn.

I am 100% sure, but am suppose to die daily if I have a bad thought I need to repent then and ask JESUS to forgive me then and there. Sin will not enter Heaven.

I am growing and with GODS grace and wisdom I will continue to grow.

 

[Ouch]

You don't make sense

Matthew, Mark, Luke and John JESUS was with us.
Acts the building of the church.
All books after that were letters to churches.

Paul never tells you what you have to do to be reborn in those letters.

It's clear he knows, since he was baptized in JESUS name and JESUS filled him with the Holy Ghost.

And it preaches to his churches about them.

After the book of Acts, Paul is speaking to churches who have been reborn not the unsaved.

If your not looking at the book of Acts, that is why you can't tell me what I have to do to be reborn.

 

[Ouch]

What good are you to JESUS if your not trying to reach the lost?

Don't waste the time of those who are.

You do you, best of luck.

I don't think you know what you're saying most times.
Whatever your game actually is here, it's unworthy of your time. And ours.[/QUOTE]

That is the point, I try not to say anything and just share HIS word and let JESUS do the talking.

What is sad, is ALOT of people didn't like JESUS either.

He can only work with the humble.

The reason you can't tell me how to be reborn is you yourself can't find how to after the book of Acts.

Why, will you not accept what is preached in the book of Acts, which is the building of the chruch?

I don't think I'm wasteing my time, those who have ears will hear.

GOD BLESS you in your walk, it's JESUS who open eyes I can only plant seeds.

 

[BillyBob]

The first baptise church I went to I siad the man-made sinners prayer and was baptrized in JESUS titles and later was rebaptized according to GODS word.

I thought I was saved then but none of that is bible.

I sure have been baptized in JESUS name and JESUS has filled me with HIS spirit.

When JESUS filled me with HIS spirit it changed my life HE'S ALIVE and HE came in me.

That is the convincing part, anyone filled with HIS spirit can tell you.

Wonder what those 120 in the upper room was thinking when the Holy Ghost came upon them??

Need both to be reborn.

I am 100% sure, but am suppose to die daily if I have a bad thought I need to repent then and ask JESUS to forgive me then and there. Sin will not enter Heaven.

I am growing and with GODS grace and wisdom I will continue to grow.

Then according to what you have said, you have been regenerated and are safe in the Savior's arms.
I am convinced that this is so, because you say that He has filled you with His Spirit and you have placed your trust in Him. Those two things will never happen without being regenerated.
I can see from your posts that you are a strong believer in the need for water baptism, and that's OK. I also believe this. But, most here, including myself, will not agree that it is a requirement. Any requirement placed on man, voids salvation by grace. You are only saved by the grace of God, and nothing can be added.
I think the reason folks here do not talk too much about how to become regenerated is simply due to the fact this is not something that we can do, it is the work of the Father, Son and Spirit.

 

[rogerg]

@rogerg

I think you are disagreeing simply to be obnoxious now for even those who hold to TULIP will say they respond freely to God's grace and are not forced to believe.

Are you saying God regenerated you and forced you to believe or did you willingly respond positively to His grace?

God did it all - I did nothing. He is Savior, I am not. Your problem is either that you don't believe Christ is THE Savior or you don't understand the role of THE Savior. All responding done on my part came after the fact, or from it.

 

[Ouch]

Then according to what you have said, you have been regenerated and are safe in the Savior's arms.
I am convinced that this is so, because you say that He has filled you with His Spirit and you have placed your trust in Him. Those two things will never happen without being regenerated.
I can see from your posts that you are a strong believer in the need for water baptism, and that's OK. I also believe this. But, most here, including myself, will not agree that it is a requirement. Any requirement placed on man, voids salvation by grace. You are only saved by the grace of God, and nothing can be added.
I think the reason folks here do not talk too much about how to become regenerated is simply due to the fact this is not something that we can do, it is the work of the Father, Son and Spirit.

Thank you, with your thoughs your saying we can be reborn without getting rid of ours sins.

His word in clear sin seperates us from GOD and how to get rid if them.

Can you tell me how that is posible?

Why did GOD have Zechariah name his son John when that was never heard of?

What does the name john mean in hebrew?

The name John comes from the Hebrew name Yohanan or Yehochanan, meaning "God is gracious" or "Yahweh is gracious". It is a compound name made of two parts: Yo or Yahu (a shortened form of the Hebrew name for God, YHWH) and hanan (meaning "to be gracious" or "to show favor").

GOD gracily give us the water.

I ask so many people how are we saved by grace alone, tell me what I must do to be saved?

 

[brightfame52]

Matthew, Mark, Luke and John JESUS was with us.
Acts the building of the church.
All books after that were letters to churches.

Paul never tells you what you have to do to be reborn in those letters.

It's clear he knows, since he was baptized in JESUS name and JESUS filled him with the Holy Ghost.

And it preaches to his churches about them.

After the book of Acts, Paul is speaking to churches who have been reborn not the unsaved.

If your not looking at the book of Acts, that is why you can't tell me what I have to do to be reborn.

You don't make sense to me

 

[Ouch]

You don't make sense to me

Your the one who can't tell me how to be reborn under grace.

 

[brightfame52]

Your the one who can't tell me how to be reborn under grace.

You don't make sense to me

 

[Ouch]

You don't make sense to me

Tying being on this side, when you say were saved by grace and can't show me how to be saved.

 

[brightfame52]

Tying being on this side, when you say were saved by grace and can't show me how to be saved.

You don't make sense to me.

 

[Ouch]

You don't make sense to me.

You could make more since to me if you could back up what comes out of your mouth with HIS WORD.

Have YOU been filled with the Holy Ghost since you believe?

Acts 19:1 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,

2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.

3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.

4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

 

[sawdust]

God did it all - I did nothing. He is Savior, I am not. Your problem is either that you don't believe Christ is THE Savior or you don't understand the role of THE Savior. All responding done on my part came after the fact, or from it.

The issue was not whether or when you responded but did you do it of your own free will or not? Did God force you to believe? Did He do your believing for you?

You don't seem to understand the issue.

 

[rogerg]

The issue was not whether or when you responded but did you do it of your own free will or not? Did God force you to believe? Did He do your believing for you?

You don't seem to understand the issue.

No, unfortunately you're the one who doesn't understand "the issue", plus, neither do you read nor comprehend very well. In my post I said that God did it all? What part of "all" didn't you get? Perhaps your problem is that you lack comprehension of what belief actually is? Belief is in coming to the profound realization and complete acceptance in one's heart, that the gospel of Jesus Christ - and all in it - without doubt, is indeed true and came from God - most notably and importantly - a belief that Christ alone is THE Savior (you'll probably need to spend time trying to figuring out what that means if you can). In order to believe, one must first become saved with belief a byproduct of it - belief not bringing salvation but coming from it. It is "all" given by God as a completely free gift from His exceedingly great mercy and grace though Jesus Christ - and unless saved no one CAN come to true belief.
The below verses demonstrate how someone comes to belief - however, as a Christian, you should already know this (but you don't, or you wouldn't have asked). There are other similar verses, but these should suffice you for now.

[Phl 1:29 KJV] 29 For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;

[Jhn 6:29 KJV] 29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

 

[sawdust]

No, unfortunately you're the one who doesn't understand "the issue", plus, neither do you read nor comprehend very well. In my post I said that God did it all? What part of "all" didn't you get? Perhaps your problem is that you lack comprehension of what belief actually is? Belief is in coming to the profound realization and complete acceptance in one's heart, that the gospel of Jesus Christ - and all in it - without doubt, is indeed true and came from God - most notably and importantly - a belief that Christ alone is THE Savior (you'll probably need to spend time trying to figuring out what that means if you can). In order to believe, one must first become saved with belief a byproduct of it - belief not bringing salvation but coming from it. It is "all" given by God as a completely free gift from His exceedingly great mercy and grace though Jesus Christ - and unless saved no one CAN come to true belief.
The below verses demonstrate how someone comes to belief - however, as a Christian, you should already know this (but you don't, or you wouldn't have asked). There are other similar verses, but these should suffice you for now.

[Phl 1:29 KJV] 29 For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;

[Jhn 6:29 KJV] 29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

The part of "all' that is required of you to believe just like the verses say that you quoted. God did not do that for you, you did that.

 

[rogerg]

The part of "all' that is required of you to believe just like the verses say that you quoted. God did not do that for you, you did that.

Oh my! NO, you are making stuff up that I didn't say. This is getting ridiculous. ALL MEANS ALL as-in everything - there was nothing not covered by the "all"! God did it "ALL". Everything pertaining to salvation, faith and belief, everything, was given by God as a gift. Nothing at "all" was required of me - and that is what makes Christ THE Savor. Got it this time? If you are unable to comprehend that, then you have a serious problem that I can't help you with and you need professional assistance.

 

[sawdust]

Oh my! NO, you are making stuff up that I didn't say. This is getting ridiculous. ALL MEANS ALL as-in everything - there was nothing not covered by the "all"! God did it "ALL". Everything pertaining to salvation, faith and belief, everything, was given by God as a gift. Nothing at "all" was required of me - and that is what makes Christ THE Savor. Got it this time? If you are unable to comprehend that, then you have a serious problem that I can't help you with and you need professional assistance.

Wow!

Have a nice day.

 

[rogerg]

Wow!

Have a nice day.

"Wow" is the first thing you accidently stated that is correct and appropriate but not in the way you intended it.
Apparently, you've been, and are, unfamiliar with Christ alone as THE Savior - odd for someone who claims to be a Christian.
Good day.