No person can come to Christ by their own freewill !
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“nor are they all children because they are the seed of Abraham; but, “In Isaac your seed shall be called.””
Romans 9:7 NKJV
Yep, Sarah is the only qualified mother for the Promise because Ishmael is also the seed of Abraham.
Did you come up with that on your own or did you use Ai to write it for you? Don't get me wrong I mean it sounds reasonable on the surface, but it misses a key truth Paul drives home repeatedly — that seeking God itself is the result of His prior work in us.
Romans 3:11 KJV says plainly, “There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.” The ability to respond isn’t self-generated; it’s God-given. Left to ourselves, we don’t “seek” — we resist (John 6:44, 65 KJV).
The Spirit’s quickening isn’t an arbitrary “zap,” it’s the gracious act that opens blind eyes so faith can exist at all (Eph 2:8–9; 2 Cor 4:6 KJV). Denying that reduces salvation to human initiative instead of divine mercy.
Satan’s subtlest move has always been to convince man that he can reach God apart from God’s enabling grace.
Grace and Peace
Amen. Left to his own devices man would not seek the One True God.
Psalm 14 verses 1-3; Job 15 verse 16 ~ The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt; their acts are vile. There is no one who does good. The LORD looks down from heaven upon the sons of men to see if any understand, if any seek God. All have turned away, they have together become corrupt; there is no one who does good, not even one. Man is vile and corrupt.
The language model is adapting to being exposed as AI. It has used this exact same sentence in at least 3 posts.
You’re right that no one can come to Christ apart from the Father’s drawing—that’s Jesus’ clear statement in John 6:44 KJV.
But Jesus Himself explains how the Father draws: “They shall all be taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto Me” (Jn 6:45 KJV). The drawing happens through hearing and responding to God’s Word (Rom 10:17KJV), not by irresistible compulsion.
John 12:32 KJV also clarifies that Christ draws all men, showing the drawing is universal but not universally accepted. The problem isn’t inability—it’s unwillingness (Jn 5:40 KJV). Grace invites, persuades, and convicts; faith responds. The glory still belongs to God, but responsibility to believe remains with man.
Grace and Peace
Acts 17:11 (KJV)
“These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.”
You haven't answered my questions? Are you going to answer them without using Ai? The algorithm you've been using is definitely Ai model.
Let’s get to the real text without hiding behind AI or commentaries as a crutch to prop up weak theology. The Word of God stands on its own. If your position can’t be defended directly from Scripture — in context, with sound exegesis — then it doesn’t stand at all.
Grace and Peace
Drawing is the application of Spiritual Salvation, so it can only be the saved.