No trust in Creation...no trust in Genesis....no trust in Scriptures...

[Esanta]

Your point?

Your cerebral cortex isn't functioning properly. I'll give you a minute.

 

[Elin]

Are you limiting the evidence to the material?

Both those Christians would agree there is more than material evidence.

Just because it can't be put under a microscope does not mean it does not exist.

Sometimes scientists make conclusions without microscopes.

Relevance?

 

[Elin]

Scenario 1. I see things, I touch things, I breathe, I smell, I taste. Thus, those things are there and those things exist. I never said they were all that existed, but they do exist. These things I have decided to measure and learn from. Oh no, you all get angry when my measurements lead me to see that the world's older than 6000 years.

Yet, things unseen, unheard, un-smelt, un-tasted and untouched, sometimes fabricated, controversial, often unverifiable, generally esoteric to the YEC Chrsitian group; things that point to the Earth being 6000 years old. You expect the whole world to believe it as you say it against all evidence.

The first one of those is quite unassuming. The second one is astronomically presumptuous.

Perhaps you would inform us of the assumptions on which your dating method is based.

 

[Elin]

Every time I think about it, it amazes me that one of the smallest things we are aware of, is almost identical to one of the largest - the Atom and the Solar system

Ya' think there may be a pattern there?

 

[Tintin]

Your cerebral cortex isn't functioning properly. I'll give you a minute.

For one who supposedly believes everything comes down to reason, you sure fall into emotionalism much of the time. Stop it with the personal attacks.

 

[Esanta]

For one who supposedly believes everything comes down to reason, you sure fall into emotionalism much of the time. Stop it with the personal attacks.

Well it wasn't :/

 

[Elin]

Adaptation is not evolution of one species into another.

No, not one instance of adaptation. But they add up.

Grocery bills also add up, but they don't ever become money growing on trees.

 

[Esanta]

Perhaps you would inform us of the assumptions on which your dating method is based.

The methods that work.

 

[Esanta]

Grocery bills also add up, but they don't ever become money growing on trees.

I'll be putting that in for worst analogy of the century. I'll let you know if you win.

 

[Elin]

Diffused light of the gases of the universe (brightness of the heavens--Da 12:3) consolidated into specific lights.

You get to do the research.

You do realize that the ''diffused light'' you're talking about would kill every living thing on Earth? That includes those plants and trees on day 3 - one day before the sun, moon and stars.

You haven't don't your research.

And don't forget about all the water which covered the earth.

Likewise, don't forget that origin is the same process as we observe today is an assumption.

 

[Elin]

Your point?

Your cerebral cortex isn't functioning properly. I'll give you a minute.

Non-responsive.

 

[Elin]

Perhaps you would inform us of the assumptions on which your dating method is based.

The methods that work.

Non-responsive.

 

[Elin]

No, not one instance of adaptation. But they add up.

Grocery bills also add up, but they don't ever become money growing on trees.

I'll be putting that in for worst analogy of the century. I'll let you know if you win.

You've made a wrong entry. . .it can't be an analogy, for there was nothing to analogize.

 

[Esanta]

You've made a wrong entry. . .it can't be an analogy, for there was nothing to analogize.

You compared my thing to your thing. I'm pretty tired of semantics and being chased around this website getting nitpicked on. Plus it's 5:17am so maybe I'm just tired. I'm going for a coffee.

 

[jag1977]

So what is the topic Work, Korn Hole, kabbage patch kids, Eye of the tiger ...Playing ping pong I kill the competition because I anticipate, it is like premise epode follow epode a gift from the great God himself.

 

[Tintin]

So what is the topic Work, Korn Hole, kabbage patch kids, Eye of the tiger ...Playing ping pong I kill the competition because I anticipate, it is like premise epode follow epode a gift from the great God himself.

Lay off the drugs or the Eastern-Mysticism or whatever and get into God's Word.

 

[Elin]

I'll be putting that in for worst analogy of the century. I'll let you know if you win.

. . .it can't be an analogy, for there was nothing to analogize.

You compared my thing to your thing. I'm pretty tired of semantics and being chased around this website getting nitpicked on. Plus it's 5:17am so maybe I'm just tired. I'm going for a coffee.

Comparisons are not analogies.

 

[jag1977]

Lay off the drugs or the Eastern-Mysticism or whatever and get into God's Word.

A back up for the back up backing all that up Luke. In order to properly interpret YOU must be placed on high with Christ. The blueprints within me, the mustard seed. The ground is not tilled with the hands he gives you. In due time comes the rain that he promised, the roots take hold, great hemlock trees spring forth, clarity and the Garden is perpetuated by the multitude of seed and land YOU inherit. Or call it mysticism or drugs

 

[GodIsSalvation]

It's fairly clear that you've never done a science experiment in your life. Skin colour is most definitely an evolutionary mutation. If you knew anything about evolution you'd know that humans evolve BY mutating, which is also called 'changing proteins and creating gene variations'. That's why it can be 'bred out'. When a white person with the white person gene mates with a black person with the black person gene you get a baby with a mixture of the two genes.

The reason the white person gene evolved is because humans spread out and lived in colder climates with less sunshine.

The black person gene causes the skin to create lots of melanin and the white person gene stifles melanin production, thus the child's skin is lighter in colour. If that child breeds with a white person the white person gene becomes dominant. But it's never gone entirely. That's why white can people sometimes have black kids. People did not evolve skin color either, that's easily dispelled by the fact people of various skin tones, even white people lived in Africa in its ancient history. Humanity is Humanity, but indeed it is diverse. Wherefore call ye this mutation?

Bacteria are extremely simply life forms. Please stop going to answersingenesis where they talk about the 'dog kind'.

This is where you are not up to date and flawed here, you think skin color is a mutation. It is not. More importantly genes do not evolve. All genes are interestingly all ready present but in individuals they have Genetic Variance depending which genes are turned on or off. Genes can even be caused to turn on and off by environmental factors, which is the part Darwin got right (and it happens way faster than he imagine).

How do we know genes didn't evolve? Simple, there's certain genes people all have but that have never been activated or they can't be activated unless under circumstance. For instance, every human has always has the cancer genes. Some people are pre-disposed to get cancer genetically due to their parents. However, for all people there's certain environmental factors that have to be met to activate the gene. For instance smoking a cigarette may activate the gene causing lung cancer, for certain people you will get other cancers given different events or environmental factors instead.

At the heart of Darwin's errors is the presumption that there is a one-celled amoeba that evolve from nothing and made all life which is why he needed, for his time, millions of years, but nowadays in their mad quest to find the fiction we're now revised up to 4.5 billions years for life to "Evolve" itself from nothing and then turn into even more complex lifeforms which somehow gives us all life today.

Creationism actually has evidence to back it up even if one wants to be a hard-hearted secularist and look past the Creator (though of course; how can one ignore the Creator of the Creation, whom is the rightful owner.) Thanks to genetics itself we know that at some point many Progenitor Creations were created, spread, the earth was cataclysmically destroyed by a lot of water and chaos, certain creatures and the Man Kind survived and waxed greatly across the face of the earth originating from Three distinct genetic families, empires rose and fell, animals have been going extinct throughout known human history (mostly by humans, go figure), today environmentally and humanistically the corruption is very far spread and environmentally since the industrial revolution this has been the biggest mass extinction of life on earth since the Flood that there is any evidence that has not been destroyed in the past.

Thank God we at least know Jesus was born and is the Christ.

 

[didymos]

Lay off the drugs or the Eastern-Mysticism or whatever and get into God's Word.

Christianity could be considered eastern mysticism too.