None Good...No Not One!

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Jason0047 said:
Well, you do not believe a Christian can be truly perfect even though Jesus says we are to be perfect. You believe you cannot stop sinning. Therein lies the problem, my friend. For James chapter 1 refutes your type of belief. For we are to be doers of God's Word and not hearers only.
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Sounds like you got the hearing part down. Now you need to crawl out of your bubble and go put your righteousness to work. You remind me of Barack Obama. Can lecture a class on how to run a business but wouldn't know how to run a lemonade stand.
 
"Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous". (1 John 3:7).
 
Jason0047 said:
I am only telling you the truth based on my experience with talking with people at Theology Online and here at CC. So no. I am not lying.
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I have pointed out to you in the past , that when you say MOST believe as certain thing when you have know or have talked with only a few, than you are lying. You can not assume a truth based on a minute number.
You do not know, nor have you talked with 1% of us who believe OSAS
 
Sirk said:
LOL! The wretched stench of mans righteousness in comparison to God's perfect Holiness.
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As said many times lately, and did a thread on this: you see somebody whose focal point is doubt, doubt of one's salvation, doubt as to the integrity of the word of God, the insufficiency of the work of the Lord Jesus to save, hence supplementation of the law required? Somebody with a pretense of some superior, private interpretation? Doubt, doubt, doubt is the game. It's subtle deception, but it's there, in the efforts of all deceivers, the gospel of me, not Thee. Anything but Christ and Him crucified.
 
3Scoreand10 said:
I have pointed out to you in the past , that when you say MOST believe as certain thing when you have know or have talked with only a few, than you are lying. You can not assume a truth based on a minute number.
You do not know, nor have you talked with 1% of us who believe OSAS
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y'all just don't get it at all do ya? there's maybe 2 billion liars who thing and say and claim that the rcc is a good place, and they all lose their souls for it because they are all wrong.

how many osaser's are all wrong ? all , some, part, few ? ..... doesn't matter. no matter how many of them say this or that, it doesn't matter at all.....
 
Jeff_56 said:
y'all just don't get it at all do ya? there's maybe 2 billion liars who thing and say and claim that the rcc is a good place, and they all lose their souls for it because they are all wrong.

how many osaser's are all wrong ? all , some, part, few ? ..... doesn't matter. no matter how many of them say this or that, it doesn't matter at all.....
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Ignorance! Such a post is total ignorance.
 
Jeff_56 said:
y'all just don't get it at all do ya? there's maybe 2 billion liars who thing and say and claim that the rcc is a good place, and they all lose their souls for it because they are all wrong.

how many osaser's are all wrong ? all , some, part, few ? ..... doesn't matter. no matter how many of them say this or that, it doesn't matter at all.....
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Well you better hope you're not wrong in even the smallest thing because if you are, your faith in Jesus doesn't matter at all either.
 
Sirk said:
Well you better hope you're not wrong in even the smallest thing because if you are, your faith in Jesus doesn't matter at all either.
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hope? why? oh, yes, your pov: i guess if you don't live in union with yahshua abiding in yahweh's WORD, then you 'hope' you get enough right
to some day find the kingdom of heaven.....

if i get something wrong, he tells me and corrects me as a GOOD SHEPHERD DOES HIS SHEEP ..... so no worries ! no, no worry at all !
 
Jeff_56 said:
hope? why? oh, yes, your pov: i guess if you don't live in union with yahshua abiding in yahweh's WORD, then you 'hope' you get enough right
to some day find the kingdom of heaven.....

if i get something wrong, he tells me and corrects me as a GOOD SHEPHERD DOES HIS SHEEP ..... so no worries ! no, no worry at all !
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So much for "working your faith out with fear and trembling". I guess you got it figured out! Good on you!
 
Sirk said:
Sounds like you got the hearing part down. Now you need to crawl out of your bubble and go put your righteousness to work. You remind me of Barack Obama. Can lecture a class on how to run a business but wouldn't know how to run a lemonade stand.
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Amen to that for sure........doesn't know the word to well either..........!
 
JesusIsAll said:
As said many times lately, and did a thread on this: you see somebody whose focal point is doubt, doubt of one's salvation, doubt as to the integrity of the word of God, the insufficiency of the work of the Lord Jesus to save, hence supplementation of the law required? Somebody with a pretense of some superior, private interpretation? Doubt, doubt, doubt is the game. It's subtle deception, but it's there, in the efforts of all deceivers, the gospel of me, not Thee. Anything but Christ and Him crucified.
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Amen to that and not to mention...just like the devil they sow their deceit with subtle lies about the word of God and what is supposedly taught by people who believe in the security of the believer.
 
Jason0047 said:
We are on a Bible discussion forum. I use the Word of God to point out wrong beliefs. Most do not want to discuss the Scriptures but they are more interested in insulting me and or pointing out something about me that is not true. Either you want to discuss the Word of God or you are simply looking to sling mud at me. It is your choice. I told you one of the reasons I am here is to feed the sheep (Because I love them). If you don't believe me, I can't help that. But what I said was true.

Anyways, may the Lord's love shine upon you.
And please be well.
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The bolded above is like the pot calling the kettle black......kind of like attributing lies to people who believe in eternal security based upon the genuine faith of Christ.....like....

We teach you can live anyway you want<---Lie number 1 by you

Because we teach exactly what the bible teaches about sin in a believes life and what the word perfect actually means in context you say that we cannot cease from particular grievous sin<---Lie number 2 by you

You really should look in the mirror before you paint such a strip with abroad stroke of the brush......Serious...there is a word for such action in the bible...where one condemns, accuses and points at others for the exact same thing they do........go look that word up and see what it means!

Just to name two of many lies you teach about those who believe in eternal security
 
Jason0047 said:
What do we disagree on?

1. You believe in "Once Saved Always Saved or a "Sin and still be Saved" doctrine instead of Biblical Conditionalism.
You do not believe a Christian will ever stop sinning and most of those here who believe in some form or another of this teaching have a problem with me preaching out against such a false doctrine.

2. You believe in Eternal Conscious Torment instead of "Dualistic Conditional Immortality" as the Bible teaches.
Granted, I do not believe that to be a salvation issue, but I can see one holding to such a belief as being inconsistent with one saying that God is love and or that His Judgments are good. For I believe God's righteous ways can be explained. They are not a mystery. I believe the story about the Richman and Lazarus is real. But that the Richman was being tormented by the heat of the flame in front of him. I believe the Lake of Fire is a place whereby the wicked will be destroyed both body and soul as Jesus says (Matthew 10:28).

3. Most in your camp believe God commanded Hosea to marry an actual prostitute whereas I do not believe the text says that.

4. You believe Jesus made alcoholic wine at the Wedding of Cana wheras I do not believe that is what the text says.

5. You believe Jesus condones the New Covenant believer to be able to use physical violence against another. I do not believe that is the case. Jesus said for us to turn the other cheek if we are smitten and to pray and do good towards our enemies. Jesus did not say we were to kill our enemies back. Yes, God commanded the entire destruction of certain people groups in the Old Testament, but we are not under the Old Testament anymore.
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1. Context and verb tenses proves eternal security....Biblical conditionalism (another coined heresy) is not found in the N.T as applied unto salvation...the scriptures are clear for both saved faithful honorable vessels and saved dishonorable vessels.

2. Again, your rejection of words, context, scripture and common sense makes Jesus a liar, stupid and a deceiver by your rejection of his words in Luke 16 as he uses (by your logic) an imaginary place in a deceptive manner to deceive the people while mixing half truths with lies to make his points.

3. I suggest you study the word Gomer and pay attention to it's PASSIVE tense...of course you reject the inspired verb tenses which prove you in error

4. The text is clear......Rulers know the difference between wine and grape juice...more rejection of context and common sense..

5. To say that you would not defend a spouse or child by any means necessary to preserve their life or to keep them from getting raped or killed tells me all I need to know about you and if you believe that God would hold you guilty of such an action tells me that you have zero understanding....nada, nil
 
Reborn said:
1. Yes, OSAS, if you need to have a label for it.
I believe we fight off sin until we die, because we are human....and yes, we are still saved.

2. Actually, l have my thoughts on The Lake of Fire. A different time though.

3,4 and 5?????
Never said any of that.
You made that up.
Please don't do that.
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Oh make no mistake he is excellent at making stuff up and twisting what is said or implying things not applied by us.....all you have to do is see who the master of the twist is....He used to be the anointed Cherub that covereth......now he is just a cast out vagabond.........master deceiver....!
 
dcontroversal said:
Oh make no mistake he is excellent at making stuff up and twisting what is said or implying things not applied by us.....all you have to do is see who the master of the twist is....He used to be the anointed Cherub that covereth......now he is just a cast out vagabond.........master deceiver....!
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He and ISIT must go to the same church.
 
Sirk said:
Must be A LOT going on there. The devil is smart but I reckon that he is as confused as his minions.
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Smart for sure.......Do the word study on (The SUM of ALL WISDOM) as applied unto him......but contrary, blind, no common sense and no faith!
 
dcontroversal said:
Amen to that and not to mention...just like the devil they sow their deceit with subtle lies about the word of God and what is supposedly taught by people who believe in the security of the believer.
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Most galling is that the essence of strong faith is trusting in the Lord Jesus to save, for God to complete His work in us, to have absolute trust in God's grace by faith and believe His promise that we have eternal life and are sanctified, right now, by His Spirit. By the Spirit we also know our place, in terms of any holiness that only God can claim. But to tell a mature Christian their faith needs supplementation of some bastardized gospel according to Bozo, lest we get spiritually unborn for spitting on a sidewalk or whatever, isn't in scripture. Maybe in a book like "Crackpot Theology for Dummies," but I've never been fooled, for a minute, or impressed. I don't read the drivel of some, in chronic lala land, as often around here, frankly, as there's no profit in exposing your brain to a lot of garbage, but do get a kick out of things like when he calls his sin "stumbling." If nothing else, it's sometimes entertaining.
 
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