Not By Works

PS · Jan 18, 2020

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We are not saved by works, but thank God we got saved and continue to work out our salvation with fear and trembling. For once we were alienated from God and were enemies in our minds, as shown by our evil behavior. But now He has reconciled us by Christ's physical body through death to present us holy in His sight - if we continue in our faith, established and firm, not moved from the hope held out in the Gospel.

Colossians 1:21-23

Precisely. We are saved from our sins by a gracious and loving God.

PS · Jan 18, 2020

eternally-gratefull said:

Hebrews 10:14
For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified.

Ephesians 2:16
and that He might reconcile them both to God in one body through the cross, thereby putting to death the enmity.

Colossians 1:20
and by Him to reconcile all things to Himself, by Him, whether things on earth or things in heaven, having made peace through the blood of His cross.

Colossians 2:14
having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.

Galatians 3:13
Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us (for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree”),

Romans 5:9
Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him.

i can go on and on

Yes. Jesus does not impute us; "JESUS SAVES US from the gutter-most to the uttermost."

PS · Jan 18, 2020

EleventhHour said:

Of course, we are secure in the arms of Jesus.

What did Jesus do? Did he impute us, or did he save us from our sins?

RebuildJesussChurch · Jan 18, 2020

PS said:

Amen.
Grace
And the Child grew and became strong; He was filled with wisdom, and the grace of God was upon Him. Lk.2:40
Love
Whoever has My commands and obeys them, he is the one who loves Me. He who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I too will love him and manifest Myself to him...If anyone loves Me, he will obey My teaching. My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make our home with him. Jn.14:21,23

PS · Jan 18, 2020

RebuildJesussChurch said:

Amen.
Grace
And the Child grew and became strong; He was filled with wisdom, and the grace of God was upon Him. Lk.2:40
Love
Whoever has My commands and obeys them, he is the one who loves Me. He who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I too will love him and manifest Myself to him...If anyone loves Me, he will obey My teaching. My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make our home with him. Jn.14:21,23

He became wise and was blessed by the grace of God.

Lightskin · Jan 18, 2020

Embrace the Grace, all you self-maintaining, salvationist worker bees. 🐝

PS · Jan 18, 2020

Lightskin said:

Salvation is a gift of God. No need to work for it, just receive in faith, believing.

EleventhHour · Jan 18, 2020

PS said:

Why are you arguing with scripture?

EleventhHour · Jan 18, 2020

PS said:

And that gift is irrevocable, cannot be forfeited, forsaken, given back or lost!

Amen

EleventhHour · Jan 18, 2020

PS said:

Then do not devalue what God has done for us by using the word "imputation"

Impute H2803
חָשַׁב
châshab
khaw-shab'
A primitive root; properly to plait or interpenetrate, that is, (literally) to weave or (generally) to fabricate; figuratively to plot or contrive (usually in a malicious sense); hence (from the mental effort) to think, regard, value, compute: - (make) account (of), conceive, consider, count, cunning (man, work, workman), devise, esteem, find out, forecast, hold, imagine, impute, invent, be like, mean, purpose, reckon (-ing be made), regard, think.
Total KJV occurrences: 124

Where did I use the word imputation?

PS · Jan 18, 2020

EleventhHour said:

Or any variation of it.

Now then, I have posted lots of scriptures about backsliding and the consequences. Please do not be a "pick an mix Christian."

Lightskin · Jan 18, 2020

PS said:

Then how do you “lose” salvation?

PS · Jan 18, 2020

Lightskin said:

By turning away, departing from the narrow path, becoming obsessed with worldly wealth, status, power etc and putting them before God, so that they become your god.

BillG · Jan 18, 2020

PS said:

Did he not save us because of our sins?

The sin that seperated us from the Father.

That is why the temple curtain was torn in two.

And as a result.

Romans 4:13

The Promise Granted Through Faith
13 For the promise that he would be the heir of the world was not to Abraham or to his seed through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.

Romans 4:22-25
22 And therefore “it was accounted to him for righteousness.”
23 Now it was not written for his sake alone that it was imputed to him, 24 but also for us. It shall be imputed to us who believe in Him who raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead, 25 who was delivered up because of our offenses, and was raised because of our justification.

EleventhHour · Jan 18, 2020

PS said:

So the sin of idolatry?

Is it your contention then that Jesus did not die for the sin of idolatry?

Do you have a list of what He was the propitiation for and where He is not, I think I missed that in scripture

"Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God" Romans 3:24-25 KJV

PS · Jan 18, 2020

BillG said:

This is a different word.
G3049
λογίζομαι
logizomai
log-id'-zom-ahee
Middle voice from G3056; to take an inventory, that is, estimate (literally or figuratively): - conclude, (ac-) count (of), + despise, esteem, impute, lay, number, reason, reckon, suppose, think (on).
Total KJV occurrences: 41

The KJV uses imputed while other translations have reckoned; accepted; counted and regarded.
(ASV) but for our sake also, unto whom it shall be reckoned, who believe on him that raised Jesus our Lord from the dead,
(CEV) They were written for us, since we will also be accepted because of our faith in God, who raised our Lord Jesus to life.
(ESV) but for ours also. It will be counted to us who believe in him who raised from the dead Jesus our Lord,
(ISV) but also for us. Our faith will be regarded in the same way, if we believe in the one who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead.

See here for synonyms: https://www.freethesaurus.com/imputed

Abraham's faith was accepted by God like a passport to heaven. It was the key to heavens glory.

Lights out.

VCO · Jan 18, 2020

PS said:

You got to love Romans, it shows how your theories about SALVATION are totally WRONG.

Romans 4:6-8 (KJV)
6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,
7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.
8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

PS · Jan 18, 2020

EleventhHour said:

The verse you quote is for all those who put God first. Should we, at a later date turn our attention to something else, and it comes between us and God, then that becomes our idol, and we are in mortal danger.

PS · Jan 18, 2020

VCO said:

Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin. (Rom 4:8 KJV)

Would like to explain that!

I will read it in the morning. Night.

eternally-gratefull · Jan 18, 2020

PS said:

He saves us by imputing his righteousness to us

just like he did abraham
that’s hw we are saved

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