Not By Works

[Lightskin]

We are made children by the power of God. based on faith. Not on our performance.

This ^^^^^ should be on display in every Christian house of worship.

 

[Judges1318]

show me where Hebrews calls the nature of Christ "baby milk" ?

you're making this stuff up.

"1 Therefore let us move beyond the elementary teachings about Christ" - Hebrews 6:1


"you need someone to teach you the elementary truths of God’s word all over again. You need milk, not solid food! 13 Anyone who lives on milk (the elementary teachings about Christ), being still an infant, is not acquainted with the teaching about righteousness." - Hebrews 5:12-13

Those sucking on the elementary teachings about Christ is an infant and not acquainted with the teaching about righteousness.

 

[Lightskin]

"1 Therefore let us move beyond the elementary teachings about Christ" - Hebrews 6:1


"you need someone to teach you the elementary truths of God’s word all over again. You need milk, not solid food! 13 Anyone who lives on milk (the elementary teachings about Christ), being still an infant, is not acquainted with the teaching about righteousness." - Hebrews 5:12-13

Those sucking on the elementary teachings about Christ is an infant and not acquainted with the teaching about righteousness.

The elementary teachings about Jesus Christ, and the acceptance thereof, affords us God’s irrevocable grace.

 

[Lightskin]

Post 133,161 receiving mocking laughter accurately depicts the blindness of the self-righteous mockers and the severity of how far they exist from God’s gracious, glorious Truth. Now, for more mockery...

 

[dcontroversal]

It ticks me off. And ticks isn’t the word I actually want to use. 😡

Same here.....sickening how they skew the word, devalue Jesus, his word, promises and power.....as evil as it comes!!

 

[dcontroversal]

The elementary teachings about Jesus Christ, and the acceptance thereof, affords us God’s irrevocable grace.

Funny and tragic at the same time....how many verses he quotes while being oblivious to what they actually mean......

 

[John146]

"1 Therefore let us move beyond the elementary teachings about Christ" - Hebrews 6:1


"you need someone to teach you the elementary truths of God’s word all over again. You need milk, not solid food! 13 Anyone who lives on milk (the elementary teachings about Christ), being still an infant, is not acquainted with the teaching about righteousness." - Hebrews 5:12-13

Those sucking on the elementary teachings about Christ is an infant and not acquainted with the teaching about righteousness.

We have believed, past tense, in Jesus Christ. Why did we believe? That we might be justified by His faith, not our own. God’s righteousness is through the faith of Christ. God’s righteousness was imputed to us the moment we believed. Christ never waivered. Christ was completely obedient to His Father’s will. The righteousness of Jesus Christ is what I’m relying on.

Galatians 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

 

[dcontroversal]

That's why we should stay in Christ.
You lose the life that is eternal and which was secured through one act of righteousness by Christ if/when you stop believing/trusting in that one act of righteousness.

You keep interpreting 'eternal' as 'I can't lose it', when the Bible makes it clear that what is eternal is Christ's life itself that you receive (as opposed to the 'life' that the old covenant gave which ended with your next sin). This is all spelled out in the Bible. But our wonderful pop theologians can't see it. Just like they can't see the plain words about tithing either. And so they mislead multitudes in the church who aren't as noble as the Berean's were.


So absolutely true for the person who continues to believe just as the Bible exhorts us to do.
These promises are for believers, not ex-believers, and those who never believed.

You are about as dense as lead and have no idea and or insight into the truth.....You will find out the hard way that your dogma was hellish and not of God....!

 

[dcontroversal]

We have believed, past tense, in Jesus Christ. Why did we believe? That we might be justified by His faith, not our own. God’s righteousness is through the faith of Christ. God’s righteousness was imputed to us the moment we believed. Christ never waivered. Christ was completely obedient to His Father’s will.

Galatians 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Until the day he actually trusts into Jesus by biblical faith....he will remain in his blinded state and continue to push this self sustained anti-Christian faith that is not even qualified as faith!

 

[dcontroversal]

The new osas can not produce the genuine joy and peace of God, only a fleshly counterfeit:

"9Whatever you have learned or received or heard from me, or seen in me—put it into practice. And the God of peace will be with you." - Philippians 4:9

Nowadays, the new style osas church calls that 'works salvation'. And that you get the peace of God even if you don't ever put the Lord's teachings into practice, and that you lose it by trying to put the Lord's teachings into practice. Why did Paul even waste the ink in the verse above if that was true? Obviously, peace and joy come from obedience, not from a fake gospel that says you have the grace of God when you live outside of the grace of God.

You should leave and come back when you actually begin to grasp the truth.....right now you are missing the mark by about 5 light years pal!

 

[dcontroversal]

Is your entire focus.

He does this every time he opens his mouth and peddles this self sustained crap faith not found in scripture!

 

[dcontroversal]

I wonder that to , no sign of joy...
In fact , no rejoicing at all , no praising Him , just dreary no hope in the dark holes they dig...
...xox...

Amen Rose......that is because they do not actually have faith to begin with!!

 

[dcontroversal]

To

He really was forgiven, for free.
And that free gift was taken back.
Jesus said this is how it is in the kingdom and how the Father will treat each one of us under these circumstances.

Osas says the man was 'not really' forgiven, even though the passage plainly says he was.
Of course, it has to say that to dispel any suggestion contrary to it's doctrine that says God never takes back free gifts.

To say the above, not only reeks of ignorance of the truth, but comes from the devil himself!

The gifts of God are eternally given and irrevocable and I can tell you pal....If I owned this site or had the power you would be banned for such an evil satanic statement!

 

[posthuman]

"1 Therefore let us move beyond the elementary teachings about Christ" - Hebrews 6:1


"you need someone to teach you the elementary truths of God’s word all over again. You need milk, not solid food! 13 Anyone who lives on milk (the elementary teachings about Christ), being still an infant, is not acquainted with the teaching about righteousness." - Hebrews 5:12-13

Those sucking on the elementary teachings about Christ is an infant and not acquainted with the teaching about righteousness.

Read the the whole paragraphs in the scripture, as I pointed out several times to you now.

Repentance from dead works = elementary teachings about Christ.

Baptism, faith in God, resurrection are elementary teachings about Christ.

Discerning good from evil and practicing righteousness are elementary teachings about Christ.

The person and work of Christ is the meat. We can't go on to speak of Him while we keep going over and over the most basic principles right vs. wrong.

Jesus did not command, search the Scriptures because they testify of right and wrong. He said search them because they testify of Him. You chose a passage from Judges to be your screen name - so tell me, what is the elementary teachings and basic superficial understandings of that book? How that it is bad to sin and good to do what is right? Or how all the things in Judges are complex types and antitypes of the Messiah and His purpose and work?

Which one does a baby Christian understand and which one takes a lifetime to grasp?

 

[posthuman]

Which one does a baby Christian understand and which one takes a lifetime to grasp?

@Judges1318

Samson shouldn't womanize = milk or meat?
Honey in a lions corpse in a vineyard is an image of salvation = milk or meat?

You seriously telling me that you as an almost completely ignorant student of scripture and a newborn baby in the Lord knew the spiritual meanings and theological implications of the honey in the lion in the vineyard, but it wasn't until you became a mature believer years later that you finally understood it's bad to fornicate?

You're upside down.

 

[dcontroversal]

@Judges1318

Samson shouldn't womanize = milk or meat?
Honey in a lions corpse in a vineyard is an image of salvation = milk or meat?

You seriously telling me that you as an almost completely ignorant student of scripture and a newborn baby in the Lord knew the spiritual meanings and theological implications of the honey in the lion in the vineyard, but it wasn't until you became a mature believer years later that you finally understood it's bad to fornicate?

You're upside down.

As are all religionists that have no concept of faith, Jesus, the power/promises of Christ and the fact that JESUS HIMSELF is the source of the FAITH he begins, finishes and COMPLETES in us while giving IRREVOCABLE gifts.....

This dude Judges is as anti-truth as they come.....either because of ignorance and or by being obstinate and hardend to the truth due to pride and a refusal to acknowledge error. He openly admits to counting the blood of Christ a common ordinary base thing and regularly tramples JESUS under his feet by forsaking the assembling together as the manner of some....a self taught false cainologist that peddles a false religion!

 

[posthuman]

Baby milk doctrines about the nature of Christ

so let's look at Judges 13:18 your chosen alias-verse

And the Angel of the LORD said to him, “Why do you ask My name, seeing it is Wonderful?”​

(Judges 13:18)​

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what's the "milk" of this passage?
what's the "meat" of this passage?

is this not speaking of the nature of Christ?
The Angel of the LORD --- who is that?
His name is called Wonderful --- who is that?

why do you ask His name --- is that an elementary teaching?
did you name yourself here after a juvenile elementary principle? or something too marvelous for mortal man to barely know?

So Manoah took the young goat with the grain offering, and offered it upon the rock to the Lord. And He did a wondrous thing while Manoah and his wife looked on — it happened as the flame went up toward heaven from the altar—the Angel of the Lord ascended in the flame of the altar! ​

(Judges 13:19-20) ​

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what's the "milk" here, @Judges1318 ?
what's the "meat" here?

oh the simple thing is the wondrous ascension of the Christophany?
and the deep hidden secrets that only the wise and mature believers can possibly comprehend is to make an offering to the LORD?

seriously???

 

[Lightskin]

He does this every time he opens his mouth and peddles this self sustained crap faith not found in scripture!

And then makes false assumptions regarding the sanctity of our salvation. Pretty incredible.

 

[Lightskin]

You should leave and come back when you actually begin to grasp the truth.....right now you are missing the mark by about 5 light years pal!

I never knew I couldn’t

You should leave and come back when you actually begin to grasp the truth.....right now you are missing the mark by about 5 light years pal!

Did you know we’re not able to produce the genuine joy and peace of God? And all this time I thought we did. Darn.

 

[Lightskin]

That's why we should stay in Christ.
You lose the life that is eternal and which was secured through one act of righteousness by Christ if/when you stop believing/trusting in that one act of righteousness.

You keep interpreting 'eternal' as 'I can't lose it', when the Bible makes it clear that what is eternal is Christ's life itself that you receive (as opposed to the 'life' that the old covenant gave which ended with your next sin). This is all spelled out in the Bible. But our wonderful pop theologians can't see it. Just like they can't see the plain words about tithing either. And so they mislead multitudes in the church who aren't as noble as the Berean's were.


So absolutely true for the person who continues to believe just as the Bible exhorts us to do.
These promises are for believers, not ex-believers, and those who never believed.

I double dog dare you to go one full day focussing only on the pure essence of God’s grace. No works, no warnings; no condemnation. You think you can do it? I highly doubt it.