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The Scriptures also refer to "the church that was in the wilderness" and undeniably place the pre-incarnate Christ there with them at the Exodus, according to 1 Corinthians 10:1-4 KJV. What do you do with that one?
"Prove all things". Sadly, the church is so littered with Jesuit inspired, sensationalist bulldookey today that the Protestant Reformers must be spinning in their graves.
"Prove all things". Sadly, the church is so littered with Jesuit inspired, sensationalist bulldookey today that the Protestant Reformers must be spinning in their graves.
You just keep making my point about how man-centered your theology is, don't you? Our focus is to be on Christ Who was there at the Creation and all throughout the OT long before He was made flesh...but I guess if flesh is the filter through which you view Scripture, then all sorts of false doctrine are possible, right?
Please, let's get two things straight that should have been evident from the beginning:
1) I know somewhat how to use a lexicon.
2) When I said "abide means to surrender", I wasn't trying to establish that "surrender" is a dictionary definition of the word, and assumed anyone reading that would immediately see that to be the case.
It should be as clear now as it should have been then that by saying "abide means to surrender", I meant "surrender" in concept: because all the definitions of the verb "abide" demand the surrender of our will to God's will in order to comply with Jesus' command to abide.
Understand now?
1) I know somewhat how to use a lexicon.
2) When I said "abide means to surrender", I wasn't trying to establish that "surrender" is a dictionary definition of the word, and assumed anyone reading that would immediately see that to be the case.
It should be as clear now as it should have been then that by saying "abide means to surrender", I meant "surrender" in concept: because all the definitions of the verb "abide" demand the surrender of our will to God's will in order to comply with Jesus' command to abide.
Understand now?
yes, we are to surrender our wills to God's will for us.
that is a RESULT of salvation, not a cause , nor a maintainer.
i can speak to this personally, when i was 16- 26 years old, i believed in God, Jesus, etc.. the basics.
but, it had no bearing on my like, i knew what God expected, i just did not care.
when i came to Christ, i cared about these things, that is " surrender"
so, i see what you are saying.
i just think you are framing it to mean " surrender " means " salvation"
it does not.
faith and trust in Christ means salvation.
everything, and i ,mean everything else is a separate converstion.
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I appreciate your prayers and am well aware perfect obedience in thought, word, and practice cannot merit us even one foot off the ground when the saints rise to meet Jesus, as He plainly said in Luke 17:10 KLV:
That should put to rest your concerns. Now, to those who are trusting in a false OSAS License to Sin, I pray that you all will abandon this heresy, get on your knees and pray for Christ to come in and live out His obedient life in you, get up and put on the Armor of God, and fight the good fight of faith instead of cowering as defeated slaves to sin in Satan's prisoner of war camp.
So likewise ye, when ye shall have done all those things which are commanded you, say, We are unprofitable servants: we have done that which was our duty to do.
That should put to rest your concerns. Now, to those who are trusting in a false OSAS License to Sin, I pray that you all will abandon this heresy, get on your knees and pray for Christ to come in and live out His obedient life in you, get up and put on the Armor of God, and fight the good fight of faith instead of cowering as defeated slaves to sin in Satan's prisoner of war camp.
Just as it's impossible for a woman to be both pregnant and not pregnant at the same time, it's impossible for one to be saved by God while simultaneously in rebellion to God. Repentance aka "change in mindset" aka "surrender" is the means by which salvation is obtained.
There is no Spiritual Switzerland!
There is no Spiritual Switzerland!
Which verse says that it applies to all generations? Like this verse
5¶These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
6But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. I bet you don't apply this one ,you dispensationalism follower you .
5¶These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
6But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. I bet you don't apply this one ,you dispensationalism follower you .
I'm sure you sincerely do...just like Jehovah's Witnesses sincerely believe Christ being Michael the Archangel is nothing more than a created being, Catholics sincerely believe the Popes "hold upon this place (the throne of Peter in the Vatican) the place of God Almighty" and each is "Jesus Christ Himself, hidden under veil of flesh", Muslims sincerely believe blowing up infidels secures them 72 virgins.
I think you're confused about who's preaching fear...a surrendered relationship with God means peace with Him (Isaiah 27:5 KJV) and a delight to do His commandments (Psalms 40:8 KJV), while the hard way of the transgressor produces fear of consequences and the subsequent manufacture of a false OSAS License to Sin.
BTW, the crowd has never been right. In Noah's day, the crowd drowned. In Lot's day, the crowd burned up. In Jesus' day, the crowd shouted, "crucify Him, crucify Him." During the Dark Ages, the crowd killed 150 MILLION faithful Christians. And today, the crowd is still nailing Him to the Cross (Hebrews 6:6 KJV) through disobedience to His commandments.
BTW, the crowd has never been right. In Noah's day, the crowd drowned. In Lot's day, the crowd burned up. In Jesus' day, the crowd shouted, "crucify Him, crucify Him." During the Dark Ages, the crowd killed 150 MILLION faithful Christians. And today, the crowd is still nailing Him to the Cross (Hebrews 6:6 KJV) through disobedience to His commandments.