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No, Christ fulfills all of the Mosaic Law shadows which pointed to the future. The Sabbath isn't a shadow pointing to anything future, but a memorial to the past, and I shouldn't have to convince any thinking person of this, but the OSAS crowd is so desperate to make the "sabbath" of Colossians 2:16 KJV refer to the Ten Commandments that they're willing to abandon common sense.
funny, because Christ never called them His commands.
and, on top of that, on the Mount of Transfigeration , God the Father came down and said of the Son- " this is my beloved Son, hear Him"
so, that means what Christ said while on earth, not what the Father said to Moses at Sinai.
and, on top of that, on the Mount of Transfigeration , God the Father came down and said of the Son- " this is my beloved Son, hear Him"
so, that means what Christ said while on earth, not what the Father said to Moses at Sinai.
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Oh, wow, I thought we could earn salvation! 
(Let's get something straight: deeds are the OUTWARD evidence of our INWARD chosen spiritual condition, and those who refuse to keep God's commandments outwardly prove Jesus is far from their heart and will go straight to hell. PLEASE READ 1 JOHN 2:3-4 KJV)
(Let's get something straight: deeds are the OUTWARD evidence of our INWARD chosen spiritual condition, and those who refuse to keep God's commandments outwardly prove Jesus is far from their heart and will go straight to hell. PLEASE READ 1 JOHN 2:3-4 KJV)
Oh, wow, I thought we could earn salvation!
(Let's get something straight: deeds are the OUTWARD evidence of our INWARD chosen spiritual condition, and those who refuse to keep God's commandments outwardly prove Jesus is far from their heart and will go straight to hell. PLEASE READ 1 JOHN 2:3-4 KJV)
(Let's get something straight: deeds are the OUTWARD evidence of our INWARD chosen spiritual condition, and those who refuse to keep God's commandments outwardly prove Jesus is far from their heart and will go straight to hell. PLEASE READ 1 JOHN 2:3-4 KJV)
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Oh, wow, I thought we could earn salvation!
(Let's get something straight: deeds are the OUTWARD evidence of our INWARD chosen spiritual condition, and those who refuse to keep God's commandments outwardly prove Jesus is far from their heart and will go straight to hell. PLEASE READ 1 JOHN 2:3-4 KJV)
(Let's get something straight: deeds are the OUTWARD evidence of our INWARD chosen spiritual condition, and those who refuse to keep God's commandments outwardly prove Jesus is far from their heart and will go straight to hell. PLEASE READ 1 JOHN 2:3-4 KJV)
He never gave me 10 commandments, those were nail with Him to the cross. He gave the Jews the 10 commandments and they broke it as do you so He made a new covenant not like the old one which they broke.
You are not in a covenant relationship with God for the old covenant is gone.
You are not in a covenant relationship with God for the old covenant is gone.
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Hebrews 4:1-11
1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
"Thinking person"? The Sabbath ABSOLUTELY is pointing to the future.
Just like the Passover Lamb. It was a memorial of the past. AND a prophecy of future events.
Did you just forget about Hebrews 4? That's a pretty big thing to forget. I suppose if you forget Matthew 11:28-30, and most of the rest of the NT you could convince Christians of just about anything. If you could get them to forget too.
Not on my watch.
1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
"Thinking person"? The Sabbath ABSOLUTELY is pointing to the future.
Just like the Passover Lamb. It was a memorial of the past. AND a prophecy of future events.
Did you just forget about Hebrews 4? That's a pretty big thing to forget. I suppose if you forget Matthew 11:28-30, and most of the rest of the NT you could convince Christians of just about anything. If you could get them to forget too.
Not on my watch.
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