Observing

[perlcookwriter]

Not quite true, Perl. A person does NOT have to be not signed in to lurk. All they have to do is go on a thread, but not post, and just keep refreshing the page to see what others are writing..lol.. People who are not signed in, cannot go through the forums as a guest. I can't anyways.

Well, at least the number changes up top of how many people have viewed the thread. And people do expect their posts to be seen by whomever on the internet. Blogs for example, many people don't comment they just read. -- Much like people now expect the possibility of cameras in a public area etc. -- I wouldn't go so far as to call it "lurking" with that negative connotation. And, the forums actually can be viewed by someone not signed in.

 

[oldethennew]

willie, all of Christ's parts are His divine parts first, they can not be separated in any way..
when He chooses to make a point...
He is totally devine and when He chooses, He totally human in His divine decisions...

 

[Willie-T]

willie, all of Christ's parts are His divine parts first, they can not be separated in any way..
when He chooses to make a point...
He is totally devine and when He chooses, He totally human in His divine decisions...

I can't agree with that, or He would not have been able to be "tempted" in the desert, He would not have sweat blood, He would not have asked for the cup to be removed, He would not have been so emotionally moved many times, He would not have been so confused on the cross as to wonder if His Father had forsaken Him.... and this is not even taking into consideration, the normal physical things of pain, hunger, loneliness, sorrow, tiredness, etc.

No, the part of Him that was made human, WAS human. It had to be so that He could fully function as High Priest for humans, feeling empathy for us... AS one of us.

It sounds nice and spiritual to say He WAS God, and stayed ALL God, but to believe that, defeats every bit of Him coming here through the human birth process, being raised all through childhood, and suffering and dying as only a human could.

 

[mar09]

I've been told that I'm highly observant. I tend to notice things most people overlook.

I've also had people tell me that I should have become a detective because of my powers of observation and my exceedingly logical mind.

Oh, well, we all have different gifts, don't we?!

Yes, some jobs do employ and need powers of observation like detectives do, and police officers and prison guards, scientists, doctors too. Oh, and chefs, artists and musicians, researchers, writers and editors, quality control managers... more?! Looks like everyone could do with being more observant after all.
Now i am reminded of tintin's signature verse, Psa. 34.8 which says, "Taste and see that the Lord is good..." It is also important to the Lord that people taste and see...how good He is in His ways, His provisions...

 

[mar09]

I've been observing some really great posts here, and what's turning into an excellent thread.
Very cool.

I wonder if 'discernment' would be considered a sort of gift of observation, because I'm noticing a sense of heightened awareness among the posters here...

we all seem to be in agreement that there's a greater 'sensitivity' that comes in different 'senses' that maybe others, (especially non-believers) aren't in tune with, or don't have to the same degree, like maybe God knows the importance of us being more observant,
being christians 'in, but not of, the world'.

And I don't mean that to sound arrogant or condescending to anyone else outside, I just mean that in a world where Jesus said there will be persecutions, and that since they hated Him, they'll hate us, it's important to be a little more 'observant' or 'aware' as someone else put so well, ...

and thank you, Jesus, for the 'gift of observation', and your presence and protection, help us to watch in all things, and encourage each other to do the same, in the faith and love of God. Amen.

And thank you, Lord, for our brothers and sisters who pick up the slack when we can't always be at our observant best. {{{ }}}

Very cool thread. Thank you mar09.

Thanks, and to all the others who dropped by. I get it being observant is really a gift after all, and something people can develop and grow with. At first i was thinking it was mainly detectives and spies who need to be observant, then one by one i see why, all the rest could gain from using our senses, our faculties. Just remembering when i first learned/tried to read small details when going to checkups, for ex. Instead of asking the nurse who measured weight and bloodpressure for one, i just tried to read what she was recording upside down and not pester her. Then i thought, that was how the detectives in movies did it, right?

Soldiers' work and exposure to real danger in battles is beyond what most who did not go to wars have to go through, but why, it pays to observe whether ur a driver in heavy traffic or the pedestrian rushing to get home quick.

I am excusing myself, feeling tired, and so up early too. But if some do have verses pertaining to the topic, pls post. Hope to be back later when i can.

 

[oldethennew]

we hear you Willie,

unlike us, Christ was from upon above, even though He chose to be born through
the womb of a woman for our sakes, this could not negate His divine nature even
through His being tempted...His Sire, was, The Devine, Holy, Spirit...

 

[mar09]

Just remembering when i first learned/tried to read small details when going to checkups, for ex. Instead of asking the nurse who measured weight and bloodpressure for one, i just tried to read what she was recording upside down and not pester her. Then i thought, that was how the detectives in movies did it, right?

Did i say weight and bp?? Although we can, and should ask doctors questions when visiting them, sometimes i noticed that some docs do write their notes on ur record file, give a prescription, but not really explain.. and sometimes i really even forget to ask what the diagnosis was, how silly-(. But at least i try to ask what again (s)he wrote on the Rx and the generic too, because occasionally we happen to have that, of a different brand, or a possible substitute-- and i dislike meds accumulating when there are leftover pain relievers, etc... I just thought to have a peek, and looks like i have to be leaving early today after all. (Unfinished again)

 

[mar09]

This might interest some:
How To Increase Your Powers of Observation

Taking "field notes," whether your field is a sales floor or unchartered wilderness, makes everyday observation more scientific
By Annie Murphy Paul @anniemurphypaulMay 02, 2012

Many of science’s most important breakthroughs, from the discovery of microorganisms to the theory of evolution, have come about through observation. The scientist’s gaze is clearly a powerful tool for making sense of how the world works. But it is not the same as “everyday observation,” as Catherine Eberbach and Kevin Crowley call the kind of casual looking done by those of us who don’t wear lab coats. “Seeing is not observing,” the University of Pittsburgh researchers point out. As practiced by scientists, observation is a rigorous activity that integrates what the scientists are seeing with what they already know and what they think might be true. In an article published in the journal Review of Educational Research, Eberbach and Crowley lay out the differences between expert observation and “just looking” — with the aim of helping the rest of us observe the way scientists do.

First, scientists train their attention, learning to focus on relevant features and disregard those that are less salient. One of the best ways to do this is through the old-fashioned practice of taking field notes: writing descriptions and drawing pictures of what you see. “When you’re sketching something, you have to choose which marks to make on the page,” says Michael Canfield, a Harvard University entomologist and editor of the recent book Field Notes on Science and Nature. “It forces you to make decisions about what’s important and what’s not.” Keeping a field notebook — whether the “field” under observation is a sales floor, a conference room, or the garden in your own backyard — makes everyday observation more scientific in another way: Scientists keep careful records of their observations, quantifying them whenever possible. Try attaching a number to each episode you observe: how many times a customer picks up an item before deciding to buy it, how many minutes employees spend talking about office politics before getting down to business.Many of science’s most important breakthroughs, from the discovery of microorganisms to the theory of evolution, have come about through observation. The scientist’s gaze is clearly a powerful tool for making sense of how the world works. But it is not the same as “everyday observation,” as Catherine Eberbach and Kevin Crowley call the kind of casual looking done by those of us who don’t wear lab coats. “Seeing is not observing,” the University of Pittsburgh researchers point out. As practiced by scientists, observation is a rigorous activity that integrates what the scientists are seeing with what they already know and what they think might be true. In an article published in the journal Review of Educational Research, Eberbach and Crowley lay out the differences between expert observation and “just looking” — with the aim of helping the rest of us observe the way scientists do.

While casual observers simply sit back and watch what unfolds, scientific observers come up with hypotheses that they can test. What happens if a salesperson invites a potential customer to try out a product for herself? How does the tone of the weekly meeting change when it’s held in a different room? Scientists actively engage with their perceptions in another way: they organize and analyze what they’ve seen after the observation session is over. (Even Charles Darwin didn’t realize that the famous finches of the Galapagos Islands were varied but related members of the same species until he returned to England and began working out his theory of natural selection.) The skills sharpened by such extended reflection are especially important for young people to develop. While we want today’s students to be able to look for information on the web, we also want them to be able to synthesize and interpret the material they find. “These are the essential capacities that all successful people will need to navigate life in the twenty-first century,” Canfield says.

http://ideas.time.com/2012/05/02/how-to-incease-your-powers-of-observation/

 

[mar09]

Ive been thinking abt the words of this song: The Lord does keep watch over all [video=youtube;mn98hPDCfY8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn98hPDCfY8[/video].

 

[mar09]

Does this fit here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4tJAz6i70M

 

[mar09]

its been weeks since i was last awaken by some roosters here at abt 1 or 2 am. idk, before i was rather annoyed bec. i wasnt sleeping well n to be awaken much too early...-(. then recently i realized there were hardly any chickens taken cared for nearby, thats why, n i hear only a few abt 5am already. then i was a little sad. that means there are less n less of these natural alarm clocks around us, n perhaps more houses being built nearby, with neighbors using the vacant or unused lands for caring for a few hens n roosters before. but thats life.

 

[mar09]

I noticed there are roosters again. Nice!