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HealthAndHappiness

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lol, my family have some Jewish friends and the husband was a lawyer and he was something else. He was a fair guy I remember that. His son lives in Mexico now and their granddaughter married a doctor.

The Kazars was what I heard about that converted to Judism. You were talking about them moving around here and there and I've heard many times that there are a lot of Jews in Japan. I wonder if they are part of the Kazar bunch.
When I was a kid, my best friend was a lawyer.
He wasn't Jewish though....
......
Just a Satanist.


True story.
Then I got saved.
He came out of the closet and finally told me. I thought it was weird how he'd reminisce about his friends crucifying an animal and then busting out in hysterical laughter. Sick.

I've had Jewish friends and coworkers that seemed like as decent as anybody else.
None of those were lawyers though.

My uncle is a famous Physician who happens to be Jewish. My aunt started a major peace organization. Great people, not because they identified as Jewish, but because they had big hearts, lots of love and very kind.
 

j55

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Better stay clear of these videos, occult books nothing good will ever come out of them they are evil and should be blotted out of our memory. Many have been tainted by this info, it corrupts the soul and are unclean and an abomination to GOD.
100 percent agree.
 

ZNP

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James 5:1 Now listen, you rich people, weep and wail because of the misery that is coming on you. 2 Your wealth has rotted, and moths have eaten your clothes. 3 Your gold and silver are corroded. Their corrosion will testify against you and eat your flesh like fire. You have hoarded wealth in the last days. 4 Look! The wages you failed to pay the workers who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord Almighty. 5 You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves in the day of slaughter. 6 You have condemned and murdered the innocent one, who was not opposing you.

I think many confuse themselves when they think the rich are the elites and they blame the satanic, evil age on the "elites".

When we talk about the elites what we are specifically referring to are those who have sold themselves wholly to do evil. Now doing evil does not mean they are psychopaths like Stalin. It is not often obvious who has sold themselves completely. But the point is once they have sold themselves it is no longer they that are calling the shots but Satan.

For example, Putin and Zelensky. They have both most likely sold themselves completely to do evil. Zelensky has no doubt sought to be rich through the use of blackmail and he has been given the desires of his heart in this pact with the devil. However, his blackmail only makes sense when Russia is threatening Europe. So at first the war with Russia worked out to make him and his cronies rich. But in the end he is simply a tool for Satan to bring great destruction on the entire earth and to bring forth one world government with Satan disguised as the rider on the white horse to be in charge.

Likewise with Putin. He has probably sold himself to also be rich but to also bring glory back to Russia so that the whole earth will once again fear her. I expect his pact includes getting vengeance on those that cheered when the USSR collapsed. He is getting all this, but in the end he too will just be a tool used by Satan to do his bidding. Already I believe that both Zelensky and Putin realize they are both going to be sacrificed to achieve Satan's goals.

Right now they are very angry, like someone who got scammed because they didn't read the fine print of the contract. Satan is playing man for a fool, there are no favorites. Those that make a pact with the devil are simply the biggest fools not considering eternity.
 

Zandar

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Irwin Sibler of Sing Out magazine said, “The great strength of rock & roll lies in its beat. It is a music which is basically sexual, unpuritan...” (Sing Out, May 1965, p. 63).

Debra Harry of Blondie says, “The main ingredients in rock are sex and sass” Hit Parader, Sept. 1979, p. 31).

Jan Berry of Jan and Dean says, “The throbbing beat of rock provides a vital sexual release for adolescent audiences” (cited by Blanchard, Pop Goes the Gospel).

Chris Stein, lead guitarist for Blondie says, “Everyone takes it for granted that rock and roll is synonymous with sex” (People, May 21, 1979).

Rapper Luke Campbell of 2 Live Crew says, “The sex is definitely in the music, and sex is in all aspects in the music.”

Rocker Tom McSloy says: “Rock is visceral. It does disturbing things to your body. In spite of yourself, you find your body tingling, moving with the music” (Tom McSloy, “Music to Jangle Your Insides,” National Review, June 30, 1970, p. 681).

Paul Stanley said, “Rock ‘n’ roll is sex. Real rock ‘n’ roll isn’t based on cerebral thoughts. It’s based on one’s lower nature” (cited by John Muncy, The Role of Rock, p. 44).

John Oates of Hall & Oates says, “Rock ‘n’ roll is 99% sex” (Circus, Jan. 31, 1976).

Allan Bloom, author of The Closing of the American Mind, observed: “... rock music has one appeal only, a barbaric appeal to sexual desire” (The Closing of the American Mind, p. 73).

Simon Frith, author of Sound effects, said, “We respond to the materiality of rock’s sounds, and the rock experience is essentially erotic” (Sound Effects, New York: Pantheon Books, 1981, p. 164).

Dr. David Elkind, chairman of the Eliot-Pearson Department of Child Study at Tufts University in Massachusetts, said: “There is a great deal of powerful, albeit subliminal, sexual stimulation implicit in both the rhythm and [the] lyrics of rock music” (The Hurried Child, Reading, Mass.: Addison Wesley Publishing Co., 1981, p. 89).

Frank Zappa of the Mothers of Invention said, “Rock music is sex. The big beat matches the body’s rhythms” (Life, June 28, 1968).

Malcolm McLaren, punk rock manager, said: “Rock ‘n’ roll is pagan and primitive, and very jungle, and that’s how it should be! The moment it stops being those things, it’s dead … the true meaning of rock … is sex, subversion and style” (Rock, August 1983, p. 60).

Adam Ant says, “Pop music revolves around sexuality. I believe that if there is anarchy, let’s make it sexual anarchy rather than political” (From Rock to Rock, p. 93).

Gene Simmons of Kiss said, “That’s what rock is all about—sex with a 100 megaton bomb, the beat!” (Entertainment Tonight, ABC, Dec. 10, 1987).
 
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I don’t watch video links without a clear written explanation of what it's about.

Then I also don't pay attention to videos that are stating the obvious, as the bible says it is the d3vil who is ruling on earth, want proof, how many Christians are there.
Census's show barely 50% of a countries population identify as Christian, yet less than 10% say they attend church weekly.
Who is running the world, not Christians, but servants of the devil.
True. The Lord of this world still reigns here. Right under God's nose.

That's something that vexes me. The question behind that.

Why?
 
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Irwin Sibler of Sing Out magazine said, “The great strength of rock & roll lies in its beat. It is a music which is basically sexual, unpuritan...” (Sing Out, May 1965, p. 63).

Debra Harry of Blondie says, “The main ingredients in rock are sex and sass” Hit Parader, Sept. 1979, p. 31).

Jan Berry of Jan and Dean says, “The throbbing beat of rock provides a vital sexual release for adolescent audiences” (cited by Blanchard, Pop Goes the Gospel).

Chris Stein, lead guitarist for Blondie says, “Everyone takes it for granted that rock and roll is synonymous with sex” (People, May 21, 1979).

Rapper Luke Campbell of 2 Live Crew says, “The sex is definitely in the music, and sex is in all aspects in the music.”

Rocker Tom McSloy says: “Rock is visceral. It does disturbing things to your body. In spite of yourself, you find your body tingling, moving with the music” (Tom McSloy, “Music to Jangle Your Insides,” National Review, June 30, 1970, p. 681).

Paul Stanley said, “Rock ‘n’ roll is sex. Real rock ‘n’ roll isn’t based on cerebral thoughts. It’s based on one’s lower nature” (cited by John Muncy, The Role of Rock, p. 44).

John Oates of Hall & Oates says, “Rock ‘n’ roll is 99% sex” (Circus, Jan. 31, 1976).

Allan Bloom, author of The Closing of the American Mind, observed: “... rock music has one appeal only, a barbaric appeal to sexual desire” (The Closing of the American Mind, p. 73).

Simon Frith, author of Sound effects, said, “We respond to the materiality of rock’s sounds, and the rock experience is essentially erotic” (Sound Effects, New York: Pantheon Books, 1981, p. 164).

Dr. David Elkind, chairman of the Eliot-Pearson Department of Child Study at Tufts University in Massachusetts, said: “There is a great deal of powerful, albeit subliminal, sexual stimulation implicit in both the rhythm and [the] lyrics of rock music” (The Hurried Child, Reading, Mass.: Addison Wesley Publishing Co., 1981, p. 89).

Frank Zappa of the Mothers of Invention said, “Rock music is sex. The big beat matches the body’s rhythms” (Life, June 28, 1968).

Malcolm McLaren, punk rock manager, said: “Rock ‘n’ roll is pagan and primitive, and very jungle, and that’s how it should be! The moment it stops being those things, it’s dead … the true meaning of rock … is sex, subversion and style” (Rock, August 1983, p. 60).

Adam Ant says, “Pop music revolves around sexuality. I believe that if there is anarchy, let’s make it sexual anarchy rather than political” (From Rock to Rock, p. 93).

Gene Simmons of Kiss said, “That’s what rock is all about—sex with a 100 megaton bomb, the beat!” (Entertainment Tonight, ABC, Dec. 10, 1987).

They might have different perceptions than the people I was around as a teen. Gene Simon's certainly pushed that with his stupid vulgar mannerisms. It sounds like the stars tried to somehow convey sensuality through their music according to their comments.

I never noticed that rock concerts were sensual or CDs either. However,, you do see the girls get worshippy emotional in the early Beatles and Elvis Presley videos. Maybe it's just a female thing.

I usually found concerts annoyingly loud and low quality disappointments in my early concert days as a teen.
However, I've attended local traditional, and classical the last live concerts I've attended in the past twenty years. One exception was an old blues artist.
 

Gideon300

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Irwin Sibler of Sing Out magazine said, “The great strength of rock & roll lies in its beat. It is a music which is basically sexual, unpuritan...” (Sing Out, May 1965, p. 63).

Debra Harry of Blondie says, “The main ingredients in rock are sex and sass” Hit Parader, Sept. 1979, p. 31).

Jan Berry of Jan and Dean says, “The throbbing beat of rock provides a vital sexual release for adolescent audiences” (cited by Blanchard, Pop Goes the Gospel).

Chris Stein, lead guitarist for Blondie says, “Everyone takes it for granted that rock and roll is synonymous with sex” (People, May 21, 1979).

Rapper Luke Campbell of 2 Live Crew says, “The sex is definitely in the music, and sex is in all aspects in the music.”

Rocker Tom McSloy says: “Rock is visceral. It does disturbing things to your body. In spite of yourself, you find your body tingling, moving with the music” (Tom McSloy, “Music to Jangle Your Insides,” National Review, June 30, 1970, p. 681).

Paul Stanley said, “Rock ‘n’ roll is sex. Real rock ‘n’ roll isn’t based on cerebral thoughts. It’s based on one’s lower nature” (cited by John Muncy, The Role of Rock, p. 44).

John Oates of Hall & Oates says, “Rock ‘n’ roll is 99% sex” (Circus, Jan. 31, 1976).

Allan Bloom, author of The Closing of the American Mind, observed: “... rock music has one appeal only, a barbaric appeal to sexual desire” (The Closing of the American Mind, p. 73).

Simon Frith, author of Sound effects, said, “We respond to the materiality of rock’s sounds, and the rock experience is essentially erotic” (Sound Effects, New York: Pantheon Books, 1981, p. 164).

Dr. David Elkind, chairman of the Eliot-Pearson Department of Child Study at Tufts University in Massachusetts, said: “There is a great deal of powerful, albeit subliminal, sexual stimulation implicit in both the rhythm and [the] lyrics of rock music” (The Hurried Child, Reading, Mass.: Addison Wesley Publishing Co., 1981, p. 89).

Frank Zappa of the Mothers of Invention said, “Rock music is sex. The big beat matches the body’s rhythms” (Life, June 28, 1968).

Malcolm McLaren, punk rock manager, said: “Rock ‘n’ roll is pagan and primitive, and very jungle, and that’s how it should be! The moment it stops being those things, it’s dead … the true meaning of rock … is sex, subversion and style” (Rock, August 1983, p. 60).

Adam Ant says, “Pop music revolves around sexuality. I believe that if there is anarchy, let’s make it sexual anarchy rather than political” (From Rock to Rock, p. 93).

Gene Simmons of Kiss said, “That’s what rock is all about—sex with a 100 megaton bomb, the beat!” (Entertainment Tonight, ABC, Dec. 10, 1987).
The term rock and roll was a euphemism for sex dating back to the 1920's. Its original meaning was for the motion of a 17th century sailing ship. But it was used for sex also, "a roll in the hay" for example.
 

Zandar

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Early church music did not have a back beat
I don't know enough about music to understand, but I know the new Christian music doesn't sound right. I've heard someone say before that its actually punk rock thats been slowed down. And it is strange that I can take modern worship songs on utube and put them on 2x speed and they sound just like rock/punk/worldly music.
 

ZNP

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I don't know enough about music to understand, but I know the new Christian music doesn't sound right. I've heard someone say before that its actually punk rock thats been slowed down. And it is strange that I can take modern worship songs on utube and put them on 2x speed and they sound just like rock/punk/worldly music.
We have been given Psalms, hymns and spiritual songs. If you are concerned about whether or not a song is a spiritual song simply apply the tests given to us in the New Testament.

1. Does the song say that Jesus Christ is Lord. Many of the songs refer to "Lord" and "God" but not specifically to Jesus Christ being Lord. Free Masons have no problem with terms like "Lord" and "God" but they do have a problem with Jesus Christ.

2. Does the song say that Jesus has come in the flesh and is blessed by God forever? Many of these songs speak vaguely of love and joy. Again, Freemasons have no problem with those words, but to say that Jesus Christ was incarnated, lived as a man, died on the cross, rose again from the dead, sits at the right hand of God and redeemed us, that is something they will not say.

3. Occultist hate the blood of Jesus. It washes away all sins, it gives us a standing before God, and it is a covering to all those who are in Christ.

The lyrics are far more important than the tune.
 

ZNP

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It ain't that deep. Humans are tribal by nature and some people take it too far but the majority of sports fans are not violent
Sports are clearly idolatrous, the impact of that idolatry is clearly seen in the apostate Christianity and in the halftime shows. The description of the idolatrous worship of the golden calf of Israelites sitting down to eat and drink and then rise up to play is easily seen in tailgate parties followed by football games.

Whenever you have the occult you will have all the works of the flesh. We associate fornication with football teams and cheerleaders, betting is very closely tied to sports, much of the illegal drug use is tied to sports, cheating, lying, and idolatry.

The halftime show at the Superbowl is also clearly tied to the occult. Likewise with the Olympics and their ceremonies.

Not only so but the behavior of mobs rampaging the city after winning a big game is certainly demonic.
 

Dude653

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Sports are clearly idolatrous, the impact of that idolatry is clearly seen in the apostate Christianity and in the halftime shows. The description of the idolatrous worship of the golden calf of Israelites sitting down to eat and drink and then rise up to play is easily seen in tailgate parties followed by football games.

Whenever you have the occult you will have all the works of the flesh. We associate fornication with football teams and cheerleaders, betting is very closely tied to sports, much of the illegal drug use is tied to sports, cheating, lying, and idolatry.

The halftime show at the Superbowl is also clearly tied to the occult. Likewise with the Olympics and their ceremonies.

Not only so but the behavior of mobs rampaging the city after winning a big game is certainly demonic.
Not a word of that was true and I advise you to go get psychiatric help.
 

shittim

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It ain't that deep. Humans are tribal by nature and some people take it too far but the majority of sports fans are not violent
Carnal living is violence against holiness, futile and unholy.
We must not be a part of unholiness, but then you aren't Christian.
so sad.
 
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I'm sorry it is really hard to understand what you are saying with that mask on and dark glasses.
I've interacted with you for years and I know you have a conspiratorial mindset and you think basically everything is demonic.
Organized sports generate about $50 billion a year for economy. I thought you can conservatives liked capitalism