Ok to be lesbian?

[danalee]

I notice that you always hop on the homosexual and lesbian threads quickly. Are you or were you once, a homosexual? Just something I noticed. Maybe you have family that are part of the LGBT stuff?

I wish the message would be more of that homosexuality hurts people. God doesn't hate it because it bothers him, it bothers him that it HURTS people. There are some very clear narcissistic traits in people who lead homosexual lifestyles - if homosexuality were to become the rule and not the exception, these same group of peoples would switch to hetero lifestyles to maintain their uniqueness and in your face prerogatives. It's a sin because it's worship of the self.

 

[homwardbound]

From what I've seen a lot of religions throughout Christianity have been accepting homosexuality. Anyone who reads the bible seriously knows that it is not okay. But we went wrong way before that. Any sexual immorality is wrong. This means all sex outside of marriage. Marriage is from God and he hates divorce. I do say any of this to upset anyone, but I find it very alarming that those that claim to be Christians are encouraging people in homosexuality and heterosexual impurity.

I personally am not a legalistic, only to me, not to anyone else, keeping my own body in subjection,
When Christ went to the cross did he go there for all? Is that were the new relationship starts and we have to work for salvation and be perfect? Or is that just the cleansing to us for new life in the Spirit of God to love as deep as God has loved you me and the whole world?

Saved by the life not the death.

Romans 5:10 For if, while we were God’s enemies, we were reconciled to him through the death of his Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through his life!

 

[danalee]

While we were yet sinners Christ died for us, in spite of us. He came to give us new life in the Spirit through the death, and every person has free choice in this to beleive God or not
I know I have not quit sinning and can go without for a little while, yet every time I think I got it, I get shown I do not why?>
Because I got proud and boastful in not doing, and today I trhank God for the messenger of Satan to buffet me to bring me back to humility
My obedience in Faith is not perfect, nor is yours or anyone elses, So for me I have been knocked down off of my high horse, seeing God's grace is sufficient for me

2 Corinthians 10:6 And we will be ready to punish every act of disobedience, once your obedience is complete.

Get it Brother? oh and for me it is not okay for me personally, yet my obedience is not perfect, so can I put anyone down? since God gave me Mercy?

Don't put anyone down. If we can, we can add insight into the errors we as people make. It's all different sides of the same coin.

I love the message that God gave about forgiveness. I've perused the boards a bit today and have seen so much negativity. I honestly think God cares more about how we conduct ourselves with love or hate towards each other more than how we interpret his messages. What is he trying to do? Be a dictator? Hardly...

His love is so overwhelming, he couldn't ever utter words that contained veiled anger like those I've read this morning. Makes me so sad.

Everyone needs to think about Christ for a minute. Or two, three

 

[homwardbound]

am a daily Saved wretch who is sustained by God's Grace...
i know my stand...

That is what is important, For God's Spirit testifies with our Spirit and we know if we belong or not thanks to the confirmation from Father i the power of the Holy Ghost that only speaks of Father and Son.
We do have two ears so we can listen twice as much as we speak, before speaking

 

[homwardbound]

Though the scriptures are clear with regards to homosexuality (see above citations), Jesus taught two golden rules for which we as Christians must adhere to. The first is to love thy God with all your heart, soul, strength and mind (Mathew, 22:37, Mark 12:30, and Luke 10:27); and the second is to love thy neighbor as thyself (Leviticus 19:18, Mathew 22:39, Mark 12:31, 1 John 4:11, 1 John 4:20-21).

As Christians it is not our place to condemn the behavior of our fellow brothers and sisters for we all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God (Romans 3:23). That is for God alone (James 4:12). Instead we are instructed to reach out and by our own example show to others the righteous path of our savior Jesus Christ (Luke 6:17-49).

Why bicker over the morality or immorality of what people do? The purpose of these discussions are the works of Lucifer who seeks to divide us. Instead, we ought to do as God has instructed us to d,o and through our example, they will follow.

pure love from God shown through Christ takes all and wins. For it is the kindness of God that causes man to change his mind and trust God to lead as Christ so well showed us all in his walk. 100% dependent on Father never the self, but this came real close in the Garden of Gethsemane, and ended with never the less Father not my will but yours be done.
You think this might be why Chirst sent the Holy Spirit of Father (truth) to lead us. us get out of the way?

 

[danalee]

am a daily Saved wretch who is sustained by God's Grace...
i know my stand...

And you are a loving, well intentioned person who I like a lot. Don't forget that. ((((ji))))

(that's a hug)

Dana

 

[homwardbound]

i don't entertain talking to people who cannot read comments clearly and then argue for sake of argument....

Did your old self flesh just show up? Do you not think apology was in order as to highwayman's interpretation whether he was right or wrong? Where is the love of God here?

 

[homwardbound]

We should not judge the outsider, but the bible clearly says that we should not allow immoral things to continue within the church. 1 Cor. 5:It is actually reported that there is immorality among you, and immorality of such a kind as does not exist even among the Gentiles, that someone has his father’s wife. [SUP]2 [/SUP]You have become arrogant and have not mourned instead, so that the one who had done this deed would be removed from your midst.

So Christ should have never gone and hung around with the worst sort of sinners in loving them. And we now today are led by God to be able to do the same and the enemy through Church has stopped this. And those outside that feel bad, guilty do not go to Church in repentance why?

A Quote from a Prostitute, she said she felt bad for what she was doing, and wanted help. So she was asked why don't you go to Church then to get this help?

Answer "Church, you want me to go to Church., I already feel bad about what I am doing and you want me to go to Church and feel worse?"
What has happened to love and Mercy you all?

 

[danalee]

Did your old self flesh just show up? Do you not think apology was in order as to highwayman's interpretation whether he was right or wrong? Where is the love of God here?

Hugs for everyone! Yay

(((((homewardbound)))))

 

[homwardbound]

with all due respect sir I don't know which bible you "studied" for "years" that does not condemn homosexuality.

The Bible that I read condemns sin, and all have from the littlest to the worst, and sin caused death, so we all are dead.
And Christ came to change that separating Death from sin, and this is done by Christ at the cross of, in the death we all are forgiven. Now what one still needs is not to be a goody two shoes, rather receive this Mercy, be reconciled and ask God for the new life he came to give through Son. That is in the resurrected Christ not the dead Christ

Saved by the life not the death

 

[homwardbound]

I notice that you always hop on the homosexual and lesbian threads quickly. Are you or were you once, a homosexual? Just something I noticed. Maybe you have family that are part of the LGBT stuff?

No sir, have never been, yet have had bad experiences that should bring me to condemn those that are, and did at one point many moons ago, Yet God showed me his Love to all and to not be one sided, that it is through the Love of God that one repents
And god showed me how his love got me to quit the drinking as just one example.
As I have gone through this valley of the shadow of death, God has comforted me never abused me, never condemned me, just love me in spite of. So one day I asked why, and I got that it is by his love through Son is the only way I would quit.
Hope that helps answer your awesome ?
Oh and one of my bad experiences was a voyeur in a public Bathroom peeping at me through a hole in the next door stall.
CREEPY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and I ran out of there. Another was when hitchhiked, the man tried to force himself on me. I fortunately got out and away, for this by him was against my will and that is what most upsets God is others taking others against their free will. Read all about it in Noah's day, how God was angry over man not loving their neighbor as self.

 

[homwardbound]

Yes. And when Jesus told the Romans that he was GOD'S SON and HOW DARE THEY I was so excited when I read that part. We will pray that God has mercy on them.

Mercy is the key that opens the door to freedom and love in rest especially even while at work

 

[tucksma]

Being lesbian is wrong. So is A TON of other things. It is an addiction to sin just like being an alcoholic or addicted to porn, etc. There are tons of scripture that show it as above. Does that mean if you are lesbian you are going to be condemned? From what I've seen in my studies being lesbian will not have you condemned, but actively participating in lesbian activities will. So is you are a woman, and tend to like women, but CONSTANTLY try to not sin and act on your wants, then you are good. If you are lesbian and go with the "God made me this way so it must be ok" attitude then I do believe you have a high chance of being condemned. I cannot judge that so I'm not 100% sure, but the word seems to support that.

 

[ji]

Did your old self flesh just show up? Do you not think apology was in order as to highwayman's interpretation whether he was right or wrong? Where is the love of God here?

homwardbound,
highwayman man doesn't realize that he needs to step down and talk.i am not proud of many things i do in my life and hate my flesh because of the fact that i am not able to do much for God.i agree that i might have been harsh to that person a little,but i was not yelling because i hated that person(kawaii) but i wanted that person to realize what is inside that person.i made a public apology to all and told everyone who posted contradicting comments they themselves posted, that they are fighting with each other confused.
highwayman and others doesn't pay no attention to that nor are they willing to say anything about Praying for that person.That is 100% debate crazy and trying to show they are right irrespective of what reality is.If i wanted to be like that i would not have publicly apologized.
So if i try to agree with that person,tomorrow he will hinder a real Deliverance ministry somewhere grieving the Holy Spirit.And i told anyone who want to teach me correctly regarding all this,they can message me...if nobody is interested,
Nobody did message,i don't think that is Love of God but 100% debate crazy.
i respect totally what you are doing here homwardbound and i agree also that am not a 100% perfect man,i have my flaws..
so thanks for pointing things out..but i will cast out evil entities for my protection if i feel their presence,but here in this site i will be careful not to entertain such posts(will avoid) and let people take the arguments to 1000 useless comments getting themselves under demonic influence,that's bottom line..
Hurts me,but i will stay away..that's my word.
God Bless

 

[ji]

Mercy is the key that opens the door to freedom and love in rest especially even while at work

And we can never repay enough to what God did for us in Christ...because that Mercy is still holding us ...our debts are increasing so much that we have no room left but to change to get close to God,making a decision to change our lives..that's how God trapped me to change
...every time i sin i crucify him again,
so i had to take a Leap of Faith to change then..and looking back so many unwanted things gone and still more to throw away in this race...

 

[Genlivin4him247]

Yes, Christ was beaten, crucified on the cross and suffered a horrible death for the remission of our sins so that we as his followers could be saved and spend eternity with our Lord. He also rose from the dead and was resurrected so that we be resurrected. But there is a stipulation for us to abide to receive that. We must live our lives in continual repentance and live our lives according to the Word of the Lord the Bible. When the Lord created man Adam he realized that Adam needed a helpmate and so he caused a deep sleep to come upon Adam and God removed one of Adam's ribs and God created woman. That part of scripture states point blank that the marriage relationship according to God's will is only to be between and man and a woman and that anything else is a sin and is totally against his commands. We as Christians need to see this and realize that even if others live their lives differently and not according the Bible but according to this world and their will in participating in the homosexual lifestyles and in premarital sex and in fornication with themselves and with animals etc. That is not how the Lord commanded us to live our lives. If we speak our beliefs and stand up in love of Christ towards others for what we strongly believe as Christians we in reality are not being legalistic or judgmental but we are standing up for the Word of the Lord.

 

[Servant_of_Christ]

1 Corinthians 6:9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,

sister here it clearly states that those who practice this will not inherit heaven. I am only telling you because I care about you, do not believe the Devils lies. He lied in the beginning and is still a lier.

 

[danalee]

And we can never repay enough to what God did for us in Christ...because that Mercy is still holding us ...our debts are increasing so much that we have no room left but to change to get close to God,making a decision to change our lives..that's how God trapped me to change
...every time i sin i crucify him again,
so i had to take a Leap of Faith to change then..and looking back so many unwanted things gone and still more to throw away in this race...

But we can try to repay him by learning his eternal ways, he just wants to be with us always. He is first, a loving God. Beautiful words in your post, friend....

 

[ji]

But we can try to repay him by learning his eternal ways, he just wants to be with us always. He is first, a loving God. Beautiful words in your post, friend....

you are right..that's how God trapped me..
Chastisement with Love and showing that it hurts Him, when i sin..
It was a hell lot of struggle when i began to walk in Faith to please God...sometimes i felt i was doing more than i used to before i got Saved,then i realized the battles became tough because i chose God over world.So things began to make sense,and i let it go in God.Gradually i began to Overcome,and He taught me Humility through that..Still a lot to Learn in Faith Life..

 

[Timeline]

So Christ should have never gone and hung around with the worst sort of sinners in loving them. And we now today are led by God to be able to do the same and the enemy through Church has stopped this. And those outside that feel bad, guilty do not go to Church in repentance why?

A Quote from a Prostitute, she said she felt bad for what she was doing, and wanted help. So she was asked why don't you go to Church then to get this help?

Answer "Church, you want me to go to Church., I already feel bad about what I am doing and you want me to go to Church and feel worse?"
What has happened to love and Mercy you all?

I think the point Paul was making is that we cannot act like this is okay? We are not showing love when we encourage people to continue doing what they are doing. This verse is not talking about someone that just came in to visit, but that has become comfortable in the church family doing something that God clearly disapproves of. You are not representing God when you tell someone that is homosexual that it's okay. I repeat, I am not saying to throw someone out if they are searching for God. I am saying that we cannot allow someone to think that God approves of sexual immorality, whether it is heterosexual or homosexual. Paul says this in 1 Cor 5:3-5 For I, on my part, though absent in body but present in spirit, have already judged him who has so committed this, as though I were present. In the name of our Lord Jesus, when you are assembled, and I with you in spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus, I have decided to deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of his flesh, so that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.