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I remember a time as a pre-Christian… when I would blow apart Christians for their ignorance in sky daddy by using scripture that seemingly contradicted itself….I walked with pride to besmirch them and would always try to pick a fight with them. Then by Gods grace and mercy I received a totally undeserved reprieve …. And I became a Christian.
With my focus on biblical research… It didn’t take me long to realize the ignorance that I once so smugly displaced to others…were words I was now having to swallow along with my pride…
You cannot prove the Word of God wrong… as the more you scrutinize the Word of God the more intricate it becomes…Many people smarter than you or I have tried….. they have either died in their own conceit or humbled themselves to the Truth.
Any seemingly errors or contradictions are due to translation, transmission, deliberate forgeries, or understanding ….the first three are easily remedied with the vast amount of manuscripts we have available …. Understanding can be hampered by secular or religious beliefs that can blur the insight into Truth.
These events that you noted as simultaneous ….actually happen on two different days.
Saturday Nisan 17 weekly sabbath (no manual work could be done)
Mat 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to *dawn “toward the first” of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.
Mat 28:2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.
*The KJ word dawn… is confusing…. the Greek word is epiphōskō used biblically of dusk. the women came to see = (theōreō) gaze upon, observe.
(epiphōskō is used in Luk 23:54 referring to dusk, not dawn)
It is still the weekly sabbath day (Nisan 17) which would end at sunset…. but is was not sunset yet.
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Sunday Nisan 18
Luk 24:1& 2 Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.
Luk 24:2 And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre.
This is what the 2 scriptures you quote say
Matthew 28:2-4
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Matthew 28:2-4
New International Version
2 There was a violent earthquake, for an angel of the Lord came down from heaven and, going to the tomb, rolled back the stone and sat on it. 3 His appearance was like lightning, and his clothes were white as snow. 4 The guards were so afraid of him that they shook and became like dead men.
Luke 24:2-3
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2 They found the stone rolled away from the tomb, 3 but when they entered, they did not find the body of the Lord Jesus.
Neither scripture you quote say the tomb was closed -------
Matthew 28:2-4
New International Version
Matthew 28:2-4
New International Version
2 There was a violent earthquake, for an angel of the Lord came down from heaven and, going to the tomb, rolled back the stone and sat on it. 3 His appearance was like lightning, and his clothes were white as snow. 4 The guards were so afraid of him that they shook and became like dead men.
Luke 24:2-3
New International Version
2 They found the stone rolled away from the tomb, 3 but when they entered, they did not find the body of the Lord Jesus.
Neither scripture you quote say the tomb was closed -------
So your saying the stone was not open in one scripture ---That is False --- it was open in both scriptures ------
I see you are new here and not a believer. Would you please state your goal, objective, and reason for coming? All of your posts have been negative and antagonistic towards God, the Bible, and the Gospel.
The Bible is very clear about how and when the tomb was opened.
Matthew 28:2 Context
1In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre. 2And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it. 3His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow: 4And for fear of him the keepers did shake, and became as dead men. 5And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.
Many came to see the empty tomb.
Troll, you are obviously here to cause trouble, having fun?
You can go back to your cave now... Bye Bye
What makes you think the tomb was closed in Mat 28:2 ???
You’re the only one posting nothing relevant. Your wasting you’re own time.
Matthew 28:2-4 gives us an explanation for the women at the tomb found when they got there. And that is the stone rolled away and no guards. This just isn’t meant to be a description of what the women saw. The stone moved before they got there and that seems to be what Matthew is communicating when properly read. There’s only a contradiction here if you’re looking for trouble. This seems like an open-and-shut case of uncharitable reading going on here, lame pun intended.
link;https://isjesusalive.com/was-the-tomb-opened-or-closed-when-the-women-arrived/
link;https://isjesusalive.com/was-the-tomb-opened-or-closed-when-the-women-arrived/
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