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baboo
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What does the Bible say or teach about women preaching the Word of God?
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How about " Paster Joyce Meyer "
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How about " Paster Joyce Meyer "
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PeacefulWarrior
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"So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth." (Genesis 1:27-28)
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PeacefulWarrior
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ember
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what about her?
does she call herself a pastor?
to the best of my knowledge she does not
do you have something against her?
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Gr8grace
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They can preach the word of God. They are just not allowed to teach doctrine from the pulpit and have authority/responsibility over men and a flock.
Why? Because men will listen to the voice of women and choose woman over God and truth. Men have a weakness towards women. We go into 'protection mode' even if we know they are wrong.
Adam was truly not deceived, in any area. He knew exactly what he was doing and willingly choose to listen to the voice of his wife who was deceived.
12But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet. 13For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve.14And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression. 15But women will be preserved through the bearing of children if they continue in faith and love and sanctity with self-restraint.
New American Standard Bible
Then to Adam He said, "Because you have listened to the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree about which I commanded you, saying, 'You shall not eat from it'; Cursed is the ground because of you; In toil you will eat of it All the days of your life.
It is an indictment on men that women can't have authority/responsibility over a man or a flock. Men are shirking their responsibility to teach and we will protect the woman even if we know they are wrong.
Men will choose woman over God and truth.
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PeacefulWarrior
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What's a pulpit? Does it have to be in a church building? An actual wooden thing you are standing behind? What's a flock? Is it more than 2 people who are gathered together?
I have never heard of a woman pastor who took authority over a man - they have only ever preached that all should be accountable to Jesus Christ. Never heard of one who interrupted or pushed aside a man while he was teaching or preaching to "ursurp his authority".
I have never ceased to talk about Jesus to anyone in my hospital or hospice rounds. Or even mixed bible studies or support groups. Men and women both. There was no man who was not sidetracked by the fact that I was a woman and forgot about Jesus. They were touched by the truth about his love for them.
If a woman is anointed to spread the word, usually that word penetrates deeply into the heart of the one it was given to. It really is not about the instrument God uses, it is about the power of His word.
I probably could have used the title "pastor" being ordained, but I chose not to. I just shared his word wherever God put me and to whomever he put with me. He loved to put me around hurting and sick people. In those cases, the title Chaplain was used. But really, what's the difference? The Word is the Word, and the ones who hear and respond are those whose hearts are open to the Word. They don't care whose mouth it comes from.
I have never heard of a woman pastor who took authority over a man - they have only ever preached that all should be accountable to Jesus Christ. Never heard of one who interrupted or pushed aside a man while he was teaching or preaching to "ursurp his authority".
I have never ceased to talk about Jesus to anyone in my hospital or hospice rounds. Or even mixed bible studies or support groups. Men and women both. There was no man who was not sidetracked by the fact that I was a woman and forgot about Jesus. They were touched by the truth about his love for them.
If a woman is anointed to spread the word, usually that word penetrates deeply into the heart of the one it was given to. It really is not about the instrument God uses, it is about the power of His word.
I probably could have used the title "pastor" being ordained, but I chose not to. I just shared his word wherever God put me and to whomever he put with me. He loved to put me around hurting and sick people. In those cases, the title Chaplain was used. But really, what's the difference? The Word is the Word, and the ones who hear and respond are those whose hearts are open to the Word. They don't care whose mouth it comes from.
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PeacefulWarrior
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AuntieAnt
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Definition: paster -
1. someone who incessantly cuts and pastes URLs to you via IM
2. a slip of paper gummed on the back, to be pasted on or over something, as over a name on a ballot
3. a person or thing that pastes
4. a worker who stretches leather for drying by pasting it smoothly on boards or plates
1. someone who incessantly cuts and pastes URLs to you via IM
2. a slip of paper gummed on the back, to be pasted on or over something, as over a name on a ballot
3. a person or thing that pastes
4. a worker who stretches leather for drying by pasting it smoothly on boards or plates
No one is talking about women burying their gifts.
The issue is can a woman be a pastor thus having authority over a man.
Scripture is crystal clear on this as laid out in the letters of Paul to Timothy and Titus.
Depends on a persons Denomination and how that Denomination interprets/understands Scripture.
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thepsalmist
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GAL 3:26-29
26 So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, 27 for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ.28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
26 So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, 27 for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ.28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Brother, that statement is beneath you........there are good Godly Christians who believe in the Ordaining of Women but would NEVER consider such as you suggest. Honestly........I am actually insulted by this.
I know the scriptures say that a women cannot be in authority over a man but it doesn't seem right something seems to be missing. I know father he is not sexist and doesn't play favorites he will use whoever he sees fit for whatever he sees fit and knowing his nature I can't buy this whole sexist thing.
true enough it does make the scriptures seem like that is how he feels but even so something doesn't sit right with me on this.
But as for authority wise I wouldn't say that a pastor is in a state of authority, a church to me is like family and everyone plays their part in it and is just as important as the next. If anyone is in authority within a church it's God not the pastor or anyone else, i think that the pastor is a teacher but I don't think that a pastor alone can run a church they need the rest of the family.
If God ever wanted me to build a church it would work like a family not an organized group, there wouldn't be sense of authority or anyone being above anyone else but everyone would have different jobs.
true enough it does make the scriptures seem like that is how he feels but even so something doesn't sit right with me on this.
But as for authority wise I wouldn't say that a pastor is in a state of authority, a church to me is like family and everyone plays their part in it and is just as important as the next. If anyone is in authority within a church it's God not the pastor or anyone else, i think that the pastor is a teacher but I don't think that a pastor alone can run a church they need the rest of the family.
If God ever wanted me to build a church it would work like a family not an organized group, there wouldn't be sense of authority or anyone being above anyone else but everyone would have different jobs.
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Gr8grace
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pulpit~~A man with the gift of teaching, who teaches doctrine to those of us that don't have the gift of teaching. He has charge over a group of believers to teach them bible doctrine.......day in and day out. We have submitted to his teaching and gift. God has planted him in a geographical location to feed doctrine to those who would submit to his gift and teaching......rare to find one who is operating,truly operating in his gift.
If I was to be a pastor I would want to be the kind that makes a spark in people, I would speak from my heart if I worry about what to teach and how to do it then the passion will begin to fade ppl will go to church but how can one make that spark and ignite the Fire if you don't speak from your heart?
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coby
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Chuckt
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Can't teach men. The exception might be in missions where there isn't another man around that they can teach but not as pastor. I can defend this but it isn't easy on a tablet.