One thing about all this arguing of law vs. grace or works vs. grace whatever is that when everyone peels away their onion'esk layers of learned theology and actually tries to understand the point the other side is making, there is very much that both sides agree on. What is truly sad is all the name calling, condemnation and demeaning commentary that goes on. No Christian should ever be involved in such as that, but the BDF here on CC is full of such, and God must hang His head in sorrow. Can't see Him being proud of what goes on in the BDF..............
Now, let me offer a tidbit just as Food for Thought. One thing I find amusing is that people who say it's GRACE ONLY, and NOTHING ELSE must be done........rail against someone who says, well, what about the Commandments of Jesus? They are attacked as "legalists" ............... oh the horror!
YET..........the very same folks who rail against the need to obey the Commandments of Jesus INSIST ON FOLLOWING TO THE LETTER EVERY COMMANDMENT OF THE APOSTLE PAUL.
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Seriously.............read the threads on the Bible Discussion Forum..........water baptism, women preachers.......appointment of deacons/elders............and on and on...........they quote Paul to the letter and INSIST IT MUST BE DONE THIS WAY.
But the Commandments of Jesus? Yeah, not so much.............????????????
Anyway, I find this very amusing..............
Now, to be clear, we SHOULD heed the teachings of the Apostle Paul, but goodness, does that make us Paulists?