PENTAGON CONSULTS ANTI-CHRISTIAN EXTREMIST FOR RELIGIOUS TOLERANCE POLICY

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PENTAGON CONSULTS ANTI-CHRISTIAN EXTREMIST FOR RELIGIOUS TOLERANCE POLICY



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"Today, we face incredibly well-funded gangs of fundamentalist Christian monsters who terrorize their fellow Americans by forcing their weaponized and twisted version of Christianity upon their helpless subordinates in our nation’s armed forces.”

Those words were recently written by Mikey Weinstein, founder of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF), in a column he wrote for the Huffington Post. Weinstein will be a consultant to the Pentagon to develop new policies on religious tolerance, including a policy for court-martialing military chaplains who share the Christian Gospel during spiritual counseling of American troops.


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Weinstein decries what he calls the “virulent religious oppression” perpetrated by conservative Christians, whom he refers to as “monstrosities” and “pitiable unconstitutional carpetbaggers,” comparing them to “bigots” in the Deep South during the civil rights era.

He cites Dr. James Dobson—the famous Christian founder of Focus on the Family—as “illustrating the extremist, militant nature of these virulently homophobic organizations’ rhetorically-charged propaganda.” Regarding those who teach orthodox Christian beliefs from the Bible, Weinstein concludes, “Let’s call these ignoble actions what they are: the senseless and cowardly squallings of human monsters.”

Weinstein then endorses the ultra-left Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), who publishes a list of “hate groups.” Alongside truly deplorable organizations like the KKK, the SPLC’s list includes a host of traditional Christian organizations (for their support of traditional marriage) and Tea Party organizations (for supporting limited government). Weinstein says SPLC correctly labels them all as “hate groups.”

Floyd Lee Corkins—the first person ever convicted of domestic terrorism in federal court under the laws of Washington, D.C.—told the FBI that he chose his intended shooting spree targets from the SPLC website’s map. Corkins was arrested at the offices of the Family Research Council (FRC) after shooting a security guard in August 2012. His court documents state that Corkins intended to kill as many people as possible.

Weinstein also supports Lt. Col. Jack Rich, the Army officer who wrote to subordinate officers that soldiers who hold traditional Christian beliefs agreeing with organizations on SPLC’s “hate group” list are incompatible with “Army values” and should be carefully watched and excluded from military service.

According to Weinstein, “We should as a nation effusively applaud Lt. Col. Rich.” He adds that the nation should “venture further” than Rich’s recommendations, saying, “We MUST vigorously support the continuing efforts to expose pathologically anti-gay, Islamaphobic, and rabidly intolerant agitators for what they are: die-hard enemies of the United States Constitution. Monsters, one and all. To do anything less would be to roll out a red carpet to those who would usher in a blood-drenched, draconian era of persecutions, nationalistic militarism, and superstitious theocracy.”

Many media outlets are silent on this disturbing new alliance between fanatical secularists and leaders in the Pentagon appointed by President Barack Obama and Secretary Chuck Hagel, under which the U.S. military would officially consult with someone with such foaming-at-the-mouth passionate hostility toward traditional Christians, including Evangelicals and devout Catholics. The military—America’s most heroic and noble institution—includes countless people of faith, and this represents a radical departure from the U.S. military’s warm embrace of people of faith in its ranks.

Yet the little coverage this story is getting is positive, such as this Washington Postcolumn that somehow manages not to carry any of these frightening quotes from Weinstein and instead actually endorses the Pentagon’s meeting with him. Sally Quinn’sPost column also approvingly quotes MRFF Advisory Board member Larry Wilkerson as saying, “Sexual assault and proselytizing, according to Wilkerson, ‘are absolutely destructive of the bonds that keep soldiers together.’”

Did you get that? They say having someone share the Christian gospel with you is akin to being raped. Weinstein makes sure there are no doubts, being quoted by the Post as adding, “This is a national security threat. What is happening [aside from sexual assault] is spiritual rape. And what the Pentagon needs is to understand is that it is sedition and treason. It should be punished.”

Another MRFF Advisory Board member, Ambassador Joe Wilson (the far-left husband of CIA employee Valerie Plame from the Iraq War’s yellow-cake uranium scandal a decade ago), said a military chaplain “is to minister to spiritual needs. You don’t proselytize. It’s a workplace violation.”

In other words, it should be the official policy of the United States to decree what a human being’s spiritual needs are, and punish for violations a military officer who is an ordained clergyman who attempts to share his own personal faith with another service member when discussing religious matters. You cannot imagine such a thing ever happening under any previous president.

Weinstein goes on:

"If these fundamentalist Christian monsters of human degradation … and tyranny cannot broker or barter your acceptance of their putrid theology, then they crave for your universal silence in the face of their rapacious reign of theocratic terror. Indeed, they ceaselessly lust, ache, and pine for you to do absolutely nothing to thwart their oppression. Comply, my friends, and you become as monstrously savage as are they. I beg you, do not feed these hideous monsters with your stoic lethargy, callousness and neutrality. Do not lubricate the path of their racism, bigotry, and prejudice. Doing so directly threatens the national security of our beautiful nation."

God help us now when someone with such visceral hatred of conservative Christians—literally tens of millions of Americans—who says sharing this gospel is “spiritual rape” is helping develop policies for how to deal with Christians in the military.

Weinstein says those guilty of this “treason” must be “punished.” Under federal law, the penalty for treason is death. And the Obama administration is sitting down to talk with this man to craft new policies for “religious tolerance” in our military.

Christianity to be outlawed in US Military | Fellowship of the Minds < click
 
Three days ago, our Trail Dust published a post “Christianity to be outlawed in US Military,” on Mikey Weinstein, founder of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF), consulting with the Pentagon to develop new policies on religious tolerance [sic], including a policy for court-martialing military chaplains who share the Christian Gospel during spiritual counseling of American troops.


Now we have a statement from the Pentagon confirming that not only will military chaplains be court martialed, any soldier who engages in “religious proselytization” shares their Christian faith with another will also be subjected to court martials and “non-judicial punishments.”


Ken Kuklowski reports for Breitbart.com, May 1, 2013, that the statement, which was released to Fox News, says “Religious proselytization is not permitted within the Department of Defense…. Court martials and non-judicial punishments are decided on a case-by-case basis….”

Weinstein is the head of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, and says Christians–including chaplains–sharing the gospel of Jesus Christ in the military are guilty of “treason,” and of committing an act of “spiritual rape” as serious a crime as “sexual assault.” He also asserted that Christians sharing their faith in the military are “enemies of the Constitution.”

Being convicted in a court martial means that a soldier has committed a crime under federal military law. Punishment for a court martial can include imprisonment and being dishonorably discharged from the military.

This new regulation would severely limit expressions of faith in the military, even on a one-to-one basis between close friends. It could also effectively abolish the position of chaplain in the military, as it would not allow chaplains (or any service members, for that matter), to say anything about their faith that others say led them to think they were being encouraged to make faith part of their life. It’s difficult to imagine how a member of the clergy could give spiritual counseling without saying anything that might be perceived in that fashion.

Todd Starnes reports for Fox News, April 30, 2013:

The Military Religious Freedom Foundation is calling on the Air Force to enforce a regulation that they believe calls for the court martial of any service member caught proselytizing.

[...] Mikey Weinstein and others from his organization met privately with Pentagon officials on April 23. He said U.S. troops who proselytize are guilty of sedition and treason and should be punished – by the hundreds if necessary – to stave off what he called a “tidal wave of fundamentalists.”

“Someone needs to be punished for this,” Weinstein told Fox News. “Until the Air Force or Army or Navy or Marine Corps punishes a member of the military for unconstitutional religious proselytizing and oppression, we will never have the ability to stop this horrible, horrendous, dehumanizing behavior.”

[...] He compared the act of proselytizing to rape. [...] In an interview with the Washington Post, Weinstein called proselytizing a “national security threat.”

In response to the Pentagon’s plans, retired Lt. Gen. Jerry Boykin, who is now executive vice president of the Family Research Council (FRC), said on Fox & Friends Wednesday morning:

“It’s a matter of what do they mean by ‘proselytizing.’ …I think they’ve got their definitions a little confused. If you’re talking about coercion that’s one thing, but if you’re talking about the free exercise of our faith as individual soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines, especially for the chaplains, they I think the worst thing we can do is stop the ability for a soldier to be able to exercise his faith.”

Pentagon may court martial soldiers for sharing their Christian faith | Fellowship of the Minds > click
 
Pentagon: Religious Proselytizing is Not Permitted

By Todd Starnes
Religious liberty groups have grave concerns after they learned the Pentagon is vetting its guide on religious tolerance with a group that compared Christian evangelism to “rape” and advocated that military personnel who proselytize should be court martialed.


The Military Religious Freedom Foundation is calling on the Air Force to enforce a regulation that they believe calls for the court martial of any service member caught proselytizing.

President Mikey Weinstein and others from his organization met privately with Pentagon officials on April 23. He said U.S. troops who proselytize are guilty of sedition and treason and should be punished – by the hundreds if necessary – to stave off what he called a “tidal wave of fundamentalists.”

“Someone needs to be punished for this,” Weinstein told Fox News. “Until the Air Force or Army or Navy or Marine Corps punishes a member of the military for unconstitutional religious proselytizing and oppression, we will never have the ability to stop this horrible, horrendous, dehumanizing behavior.”

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Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, told Fox News he was stunned that the Pentagon would be taking counsel and advice from the Military Religious Freedom Foundation.

“Why would military leadership be meeting with one of the most rabid atheists in America to discuss religious freedom in the military,” Perkins said. “That’s like consulting with China on how to improve human rights.”

Pentagon: Religious Proselytizing is Not Permitted | FOX News & Commentary: Todd Starnes < click

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Michael L. Weinstein
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Michael L. "Mikey" Weinstein is an attorney, businessman, and former Air Force officer. He is the founder and president of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, (MRFF) and author of With God on Our Side: One Man's War Against an Evangelical Coup in America's Military and No Snowflake in an Avalanche, both of which describe his fight against alleged coercive Christian Fundamentalist practices by some members of the military.


Awards and recognition

In 2006, Weinstein was named as one of Forward Magazine's "Forward 50", a list of the most influential Jews in America.[25] Weinstein has also received a nomination for the JFK Library's Profile in Courage Award and received the Buzzflash Wings of Justice Award.[26] Jews for Racial and Economic Justice awarded him its Rabbi Marshall T. Meyer Risk-Taker Award for taking extraordinary risks in pursuit of justice.[27]

In 2010, Weinstein was given the Anne Froehlich Political Courage Award by the Pacific Palisades Democratic Club, which had previously been awarded to such prominent political voices as Phil Donahue, Daniel Ellsberg, Ron Kovic, as well as Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson and wife Valerie Plame.

Weinstein was named Americans United for Separation of Church and State's 2011 "Person of the Year" at a ceremony in Washington, D.C., on November 7, 2011. Rev. Barry W. Lynn, Esq., executive director of Americans United, said: "We've never named a 'Person of the Year' before, but I can't think of anyone more deserving than Mikey Weinstein. Time and again, he has stuck his neck out to defend the religious liberty rights of the men and women serving our country in the armed forces."[citation needed]

In December 2012, Weinstein was named one of the "100 Most Influential People in U.S. Defense" by Defense News.[28] As one individual on the list explained, inclusion on the list is a matter of "…making change, it’s not just celebrity." Ranked at #95, Weinstein even managed to outrank the recently-disgraced General David Petraeus. Defense News noted:

A former Air Force officer and White House lawyer during the Reagan administration, Weinstein is today a one-issue whistle-blower who has driven real change in religious policy throughout the military. Advocating for secularism in the military through the Military Religious Freedom Foundation he founded in 2005, Weinstein has fought a campaign against public prayer and proselytizing by Air Force officers, particularly at the Air Force Academy, his alma mater, where he says he and his sons experienced religious discrimination. Weinstein has been accused of tilting at windmills in his struggles, but he scored a major victory in 2011, when the Air Force suspended a training course for nuclear missile launch officers that used Bible passages and religious imagery in a PowerPoint presentation about the ethics of war. Weinstein's public persistence continues to influence Pentagon religious policies, including new rules released in 2012 restricting the sale of Bibles adorned with military insignia.

Michael L. Weinstein - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < click

"Time and again, he has stuck his neck out to defend the religious liberty rights of the men and women serving our country in the armed forces."


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The Military Religious Freedom Foundation is dedicated to ensuring that all members of the United States Armed Forces fully receive the Constitutional guarantee of religious freedom to which they and all Americans are entitled by virtue of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment.

Over 30,000 active duty members of the United States Armed Forces have come to our foundation as spiritual rape victims/tormentees, with hundreds more contacting MRFF each day. 96% of them are Christians themselves.

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Our Mission
The Military Religious Freedom Foundation is dedicated to ensuring that all members of the United States Armed Forces fully receive the Constitutional guarantees of religious freedom to which they and all Americans are entitled by virtue of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment.

MRFF recognizes that military life requires individual adherence to shared patriotic principles. MRFF also recognizes the need for military personnel to at times temporarily relinquish some Constitutionally granted personal freedoms for the sake of military discipline and objectives.

However, MRFF believes that religious faith is a Constitutionally guaranteed freedom that must never be compromised, except in the most limited of military circumstances, because of its fundamental importance to the preservation of the American nation and the American way of life.

Additionally, MRFF adheres strongly to the principle that religious faith is a deeply personal matter, and that no American has the right to question another American’s beliefs as long as they do not unwontedly intrude on the public space or the privacy or safety of another individual.

Therefore, MRFF holds that:

No religion or religious philosophy may be advanced by the United States Armed Forces over any other religion or religious philosophy.

No member of the United States Armed Forces may be compelled in any way to conform to a particular religion or religious philosophy.

No member of the United States Armed Forces may be compelled in any way to witness or engage in any religious exercise.

No member of the military may be compelled to curtail – except in the most limited of military circumstances and when it directly impacts military discipline, morale and the successful completion of a specific military goal – the free exercise of their religious practices or beliefs.

Students at United States military academies are entitled to the same Constitutional rights pertaining to religious freedoms and the free exercise of those freedoms to which all other members of the United States Armed Forces military are entitled.

No member of the military may be compelled to endure unwanted religious proselytization, evangelization or persuasion of any sort in a military setting and/or by a military superior or civilian employee of the military.

The full exercise of religious freedom includes the right not to subscribe to any particular religion or religious philosophy. The so-called “unchurched” cede no Constitutional rights by want of their separation from organized faith.

It is the responsibility of the military hierarchy to ensure that the free exercise of religious freedoms of all enlisted personnel are respected and served.
 
Religious Groups Fear Christian Purge From Military

By Todd Starnes , CP Op-Ed Contributor
May 1, 2013|9:26 am

Religious liberty groups have grave concerns after they learned the Pentagon is vetting its guide on religious tolerance with a group that compared Christian evangelism to "rape" and advocated that military personnel who proselytize should be court martialed.

The Military Religious Freedom Foundation is calling on the Air Force to enforce a regulation that they believe calls for the court martial of any service member caught proselytizing.

Read more at Religious Groups Fear Christian Purge From Military
 
Wow. Obama and the Democrats have a strong devil inspired hatred of us. And yes I'm an honorably discharged veteran.
 
U.S. military should put religious freedom at the front

By Sally Quinn, Published: April 26

Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel is worried about the Pentagon budget, but there are much more serious issues he must deal with. Religious proselytizing and sexual assault are at the top of the list.

In late March, as reported in the New York Times, Hagel held a conversation with a group of sergeants and petty officers who were concerned about military issues. He told them, “Remember, you always have a friend in the secretary of defense.”

Now is the time for Hagel to step to the plate and prove that friendship by eliminating all discrimination in the military.

“The armed forces are on the verge of falling apart,” Larry Wilkerson, former chief of staff to Colin Powell, told me in an interview. Aside from proselytizing, he said, other problems include “sexual assault, suicides, lowering entrance standards and war weariness. They are in trouble, and the leadership is oblivious.” Sexual assault and proselytizing, according to Wilkerson, “are absolutely destructive of the bonds that keep soldiers together.”

Wilkerson was speaking to me in an interview with former ambassador Joe Wilson and the head of the private Military Religious Freedom Foundation, Mikey Weinstein. They were on their way to a meeting at the Pentagon on April 23 where they would discuss religious issues in a group that included several generals and a military chaplain.

The chaplain’s role, according to Wilson, “is to minister to spiritual needs. You don’t proselytize. It’s a workplace violation.”

Weinstein told me after the Pentagon meeting that military leaders need to understand that “there is systematic misogyny, anti-Semitism and Islamophobia in the military.” He said it is all part of the same culture.

“This is a national security threat. What is happening [aside from sexual assault] is spiritual rape. And what the Pentagon needs to understand is that it is sedition and treason. It should be punished.”

U.S. military should put religious freedom at the front - The Washington Post < click

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Military Chaplains Must Contend With 'Hate Speech' Accusations; Inclusive Prayers Not an Issue, Senate Chaplain Says

By Napp Nazworth , Christian Post Reporter
April 30, 2013|8:47 am

WASHINGTON – Military chaplains cannot be forced to do something in opposition to their theology, but they may have problems with being accused of "hate speech" for teaching what scripture says about homosexuality, Barry Black, the U.S. Senate Chaplain and a former military chaplain, told a Heritage Foundation audience Monday. He also said he does not believe that the occasions where military chaplains are expected to pray inclusive prayers is a serious problem.

The military directives make clear, Black said, that military chaplains cannot be forced to do something they are opposed to doctrinally. He added, though, that some military chaplains may find themselves in a bind because of the scripture passages that describe homosexual behavior as a sin.

"I can see many military chaplains having some problems because, to teach the passages of Paul with exegetical integrity would mean being accused of engaging in hate speech. So, this is a challenge that I think we're going to have to deal with going forward," Black said.

Black's remarks were in response to a question about presiding over same-sex marriage ceremonies after his speech called, "Bridging the Religious and Secular Divide." In the speech, he encouraged Christians to bring their faith into the workplace by being "salt and light" and by witnessing without words. By being ethically congruent and focusing on one's actions, Black said, Christians can make a difference in their workplaces without using words. Quoting Francis of Assisi, Black said, "preach the gospel everywhere you go, when necessary use words."

During the question and answer session, Black was also asked whether military chaplains should be allowed to pray in the name of Jesus. Black explained that he has prayed thousands of times in the name of Jesus in his 30 years as a military chaplain. There were only certain occasions when he found it appropriate to say a prayer that would be inclusive of other faiths.

Black provided two examples. First, if a Muslim marine were killed and he was saying a public prayer, he would use more inclusive language out of respect. Second, if he were praying over an intercom on a ship full of sailors of different religious backgrounds, he would pray a more inclusive prayer. In that situation, one cannot avoid listening to the prayer, so Black thought it important to be respectful of everyone's beliefs.

Read more at Military Chaplains Must Contend With 'Hate Speech' Accusations; Inclusive Prayers Not an Issue, Senate Chaplain Says

to teach the passages of Paul with exegetical integrity would mean being accused of engaging in hate speech.


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reptile talk, surely.
conspiracy theory.
definitely amillennialist.
 
Army Email Labels Christian Ministries as “Domestic Hate Groups”

A U.S. Army officer sent an email to dozens of subordinates listing the American Family Association and Family Research Council as “domestic hate groups” because they oppose homosexuality — and warned officers to monitor soldiers who might be supporters of the groups.

“Just want to ensure everyone is somewhat educated on some of the groups out there that do not share our Army Values,” read an email from Lt. Col. Jack Rich to three dozen subordinates at Fort Campbell in Kentucky. “When we see behaviors that are inconsistent with Army Values – don’t just walk by – do the right thing and address the concern before it becomes a problem.”

Army Email Labels Christian Ministries as “Domestic Hate Groups&#8221; | FOX News & Commentary: Todd Starnes
 
April 11, 2013
The Pentagon owes AFA and FRC an effusive apology

By Bryan Fischer

Lt Col Jack Rich falsely and slanderously labeled both the American Family Association and the Family Research Council as "domestic hate groups" in a 14-page email sent to several dozen army officers.

It seems he could hardly wait to demonize both AFA and FRC, targeting us on the second page of his rant. He erroneously accuses us of "defamation" when we do nothing more than tell the truth about homosexual behavior. And he wildly accuses us of "disseminating disparaging 'facts' about gays" (the scare quotes are his), when we say nothing that cannot be backed up by Scripture, history and research.

Rich veers off into malicious charges of racism when he says our assertions "are remarkably reminiscent of the way white intellectuals and scientists once wrote about the 'bestial' black man and his supposedly threatening sexuality." This is utterly unfounded and malicious character defamation to an alarming degree, and the fact that it is being done under color of law and military authority is exceedingly disturbing.

Rich shamelessly and incorrectly accuses the AFA and FRC of being groups that "do not share our Army values." The truth, sadly, is that it is Lt Col Jack Rich who does not share the values of the military he serves. In fact, it seems apparent that the AFA "shares Army values" more than Lt Col Rich does.

Army values, according to its own website, include such things as loyalty, duty, honor, respect, selfless service, integrity, and personal courage. Well, LTC Rich has been flagrantly derelict in his duty to tell the truth, shows no respect for pro-family organizations, and demonstrates a clear lack of integrity by his misrepresentations of both FRC and AFA.

He even clusters FRC and AFA with the Westboro Baptist Church, even though our message to homosexuals is exactly the reverse of Fred Phelps's cult. While Westboro declares ad nauseum that "God hates fags," FRC and AFA constantly declare the truth of Scripture that God loves homosexuals and wants to see them set free from the bondage of a self-destructive lifestyle.

LTC Rich to his embarrassment is depending upon misinformation about AFA and FRC promoted by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), a "charity" that, according the Weekly Standard, has stockpiled $256 million in donor money and has received the grade of "F" from the nation's leading charity watchdog.

Although LTC Rich has denied drawing his information from the SPLC, he directly references the group on page 3 of his 14-page memo as a source of information about what he calls "anti-immigrant" groups, and then cites the SPLC again later in the memo.

The Pentagon owes AFA and FRC an effusive apology < click
 
Letter to Armed Services Chairs on Religious Coercion in the Military

January 22, 2007
The Honorable Carl Levin
Chairman
Senate Armed Services Committee
Washington, DC 20510

Dear Senator Levin:

On behalf of the Anti-Defamation League, we are writing to urge the Senate Armed Services Committee to hold hearings on coercive proselytizing and religious activity in the military – and to begin a process that will result in the promulgation of new guidelines on religious activity for the service branches. We were very disappointed that the FY 2007 Defense of Department authorization bill directed the Secretary of the Air Force and the Secretary of the Navy to rescind their existing guidelines on religious activity.

The League has taken a lead role in confronting concerns about religious intolerance at the US Air Force Academy (USAFA) in Colorado Springs, Colorado. ADL submitted the attached statement at hearings on the issue before the House Armed Service Committee, Subcommittee on Military Personnel held on June 28, 2005. Our testimony documented a climate of religious intolerance for members of minority religions at USAFA and instances of inappropriate proselytizing and unwelcome religious harassment at that honored federal institution. The Air Force’s own investigation, The Report of the Headquarters Review Group Concerning the Religious Climate at the U.S. Air Force Academy, confirmed many of ADL's concerns and those raised by cadets, staff chaplains, civilian observers and military personnel that a persistent pattern of religious intolerance existed at the academy, and that change was necessary.

These charges of religious harassment and unwelcome proselytizing were especially disturbing in the context of the military command structure within our nation’s military service academies (and, indeed, anywhere in the military) in which instructors, officers, and upper class cadets have virtually absolute command authority over their students and subordinates, creating a unique potential for undue pressure on an individual to conform in order not to jeopardize his or her military career. Governmental institutions, like USAFA and the Naval Academy, bear a special responsibility to avoid religious coercion and to respect the rights of religious minorities guaranteed by the Constitution.

The League’s concerns led to a series of meetings with Air Force leadership – both at USAFA and at the Pentagon. ADL representatives, under the leadership of the ADL Mountain States Regional Director Bruce DeBoskey in Denver, began to work closely with Air Force personnel to prepare and implement follow-up training and educational training programs designed to define the rights, responsibilities, and remedies under the guidelines.

ADL Letter to U.S. Rep. John N. Hostettler: Remarks on Religion 'Objectionable' < click




what i don't quite get is how the ADL has any ability to arrange for anything concerning the US Air Force; Pentagon or anything else.

it's a private agency.

"programs designed to define the rights, responsibilities, and remedies under the guidelines....of the Constitution?"

or some other set of guidelines?

what implement what follow-up "training"?

what kind of training?

LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!;)


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Christians refuse to serve in the Military.

Boycott wars for Foreign Policies which are neither in their nation's interest, nor in line with the teachings of Jesus.

SOLVED

YAY!
 
Brothers and sisters in Jesus, stand up for Jesus and rebel against satan! Even if it means your life! Now is the time to separate the goats from the sheep.
 
This should be discussed in every pulpit across America! This is really dangerous! There will be a military
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I know the Christian media and Christian blogosphere likes the feeling of a good panic.
So when I see stories like this, my first move is to decipher the spin from the facts, and to maybe find another source or sources.

I think this story is an instance of a set of facts being spun in such a way that a panic was woven.

I don't think this is as scary as some are making it.

What some are viewing as a threat to our faith, could actually be a safeguard to protect Christians too.

The over arching concern has to do with people in places of power using their place of power to unfairly push their faith/religion. Protecting against such actually protects Christians.

I'm sure a Lutheran wouldn't want a superior who is Roman Catholic to be sales pitching RCism to the extent it's viewed as a threat to a subordinate. And I'm almost positive a Pentecostal wouldn't want a Muslim superior to have the ability to push their Islamy-ness upon them.

That's really all this is about.

And yes the military did talk with that group. But they talk to alotta groups. Consult is a rather incorrect word, and has been spun in the wrong direction.

Link--->Soldiers inclined to proselytize may face court martial | The Tennessean | tennessean.com

“For example,” the rules state, “they must avoid the actual or apparent use of their position to promote their personal religious beliefs to their subordinates or to extend preferential treatment for any religion.”

“When on duty or in an official capacity, Air Force members are free to express their personal religious beliefs as long as it does not make others uncomfortable,” he said in an email. “Proselytizing, as defined above, goes over that line.”

With all that said, I'd rather have Christians be knee jerky and vigilant, than sitting back and playing Candy Crush and Farmville as their freedoms get potentially destroyed bit by bit.
 
Still....:)

“This is a national security threat. What is happening [aside from sexual assault] is spiritual rape. And what the Pentagon needs to understand is that it is sedition and treason. It should be punished.”
Mikey Weinstein

as a Lutheran, if i were in the military, even if an RCC priest followed me around trying to hand me a rosary...is that spiritual rape; sedition and treason?

a national security threat?
serious?

Mikey said it should be punished.

what's the punishment for sedition and treason in the military?

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they approve bestiality for military (in their private quarters, mind you); but religion is treason?
mkay.
 
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Pentagon's strange alliance with Mikey Weinstein

The Gazette editorial - • Published: May 3, 2013 | 12:00 am • 13

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Mikey Weinstein

Political correctness appears to be running amuck in the Pentagon. How else to explain the decision by somebody in the military bureaucracy to ask Mikey Weinstein for advice on religious expression by those in the ranks who happen to be Catholic or evangelical Christians. Weinstein is founder of the one-man nonprofit band known as the Military Religious Freedom Foundation.

The MRFF pays him a quarter of a million dollars a year for chasing cameras to preach his special brand of vitriol and bile about Christians.

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that IS the question.
how does a private firm (in this case supposedly just Mikey:rolleyes:) haul the US authorities in and bend their ear on these matters?

isn't this a matter for CLERGY?

and if we think this kind of rhetoric doesn't make it's way into the meme, well i dunno.
just look at what this really says.
look at the lingo!

the fact a guy who talks like this about americans (christian americans), in THEIR OWN military...AND gets to have meetings with policy makers is far more disturbing than i even first thought.

“Today, we face incredibly well-funded gangs of fundamentalist Christian monsters who terrorize their fellow Americans by forcing their weaponized and twisted version of Christianity upon their helpless subordinates in our nation’s armed forces.”
Mikey Weinstein


what happens when we just go like this:


“Today, we face incredibly well-funded gangs of fundamentalist ........ monsters who terrorize ........ Americans by forcing their weaponized and twisted version of ........ upon their helpless subordinates in our nation’s armed forces.”

this is nasty.
heads up.
 
Zone,

They know they have to remove the Christians from the military,otherwise they know there will be a certain amount of resistance to some orders from the top. If one has a divided military how does one have people who will blindly follow ALL orders?