PENTAGON CONSULTS ANTI-CHRISTIAN EXTREMIST FOR RELIGIOUS TOLERANCE POLICY

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Zone,

They know they have to remove the Christians from the military,otherwise they know there will be a certain amount of resistance to some orders from the top. If one has a divided military how does one have people who will blindly follow ALL orders?

well, they also know christians will continue to join the military.
without christians, you got no military:)
so it's something other than that.

just look this over (if ya feel like it), and see how ridiculous it gets:

supposedly Christians make up between 70-80% of the military.
okay. and they have tons of clergy, supposedly.
mkay.

hindu; jewish; muslim and others make up a tiny portion of the military,
and they have clergy.
according to militaryatheists.org those groups are hugely over-represented in chaplaincy.
uh..okay.

Military Association of Atheists & Freethinkers | Military Religious Demographics - Military Association of Atheists & Freethinkers < click

atheists say they make up 0.37% of the military.
and they are ticked off because they have no chaplaincy.







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sheesh. why would an atheist want a chaplain anyway? :confused:

I happened to see two of our children's friends (of the four they have in the air force) last week.
I asked them about all the pressure they must be getting (or exerting, since they're both pilots and officers).

They thought I was joking. To be fair, they're both very strong Christians, raised by Christian home school parents.
But they had yet to hear of this.
They're not worried, though.

Faith in God kinda stuff. :)
 
you know.....i'm taking a deeper look at this whole thing.

Re: PENTAGON CONSULTS ANTI-CHRISTIAN EXTREMIST FOR RELIGIOUS TOLERANCE POLICY


HOUSTON, WE HAVE A RELIGIOUS EXTREMIST PROBLEM - FOR SURE


but which extremists are we dealing with?

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Remember Guantanamo Bay?

Posted APR 29 2013 by SHANE CLAIBORNE

I had a chance to meet with some of the folks who have served as mediators to Guantanamo Bay prisoners… and I am deeply disturbed by what I am learning.

Here’s a little update from Guantanamo –

Some of the things I learned…

166 prisoners remain in the prison. 86 have been cleared for release, and yet they remain in prison – some have been there for over 10 years (with no trial).

There are now dozens of human rights groups and faith-organizations calling for an end to the indefinite detention and torture of the prisoners.

The NY Times calls it a “stain” on America, and wrote: “The prison should have never been opened. It was nothing more than Mr. Bush’s attempt to evade accountability by placing prisoners in another country.” And in 2009 Obama promised to close it. Now, in 2013, it is still open and the prisoners are being held indefinitely without a trial. It is reported, that some of them were farmers taken by mistake in the countrywide sweeps (the US offered a bounty of $5000 per prisoner). One of them was Adnan Latif, who spent more than 10 years in Guantanamo without ever being charged. He was a poet, father, and husband – suffered severe beatings and died in prison. He was cleared for release four separate times yet continued to remain in the prison. On September 8, 2012 – Adnan died. Some of his last words were: “Where is the world to save us?”

Another prisoner is Shaker Aamer, the sole UK citizen still at Guantanamo. Shaker recently pleaded, “I hope I do not die in this awful place. I want to hug my children.” He was cleared for release 6 years ago, but continues to wait to hug his kids.

Now a total of 9 prisoners have died. There have been several suicides and dozens of other attempted suicides as prisoners seek to end the brutal life at Guantanamo.

In a desperate attempt to bring attention to the situation, the prisoners have gone on a hunger strike which is now in its third month. As of today, it is reported that there are 97 prisoners on a hunger strike, 16 are being forced fed, and 6 have been hospitalized. One of the hunger-strikers, Samir Naji described the desperation within the prison as men now weigh as little as 77 pounds — in a recent NY Times article.

“The hunger strike,” says Jeremy Varon, an organizer with Witness Against Torture, “is the predictable result of a failed policy of indefinite detention that is morally unacceptable and politically unsustainable. If action is not taken to change that policy, more prisoners will die and our nation’s shame will deepen.”




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Hebrews 13:3
“Continue to remember those in prison as if you were together with them in prison, and those who are mistreated as if you yourselves were suffering.”

now i realize this is referring to Christians imprisoned for their faith...but shouldn't it be we who are in that torture position for refusing to harm others?

something's really wrong here, friends.

especially considering muslims didn't do 9-11 in the first place.

God help us all.
 
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well, they also know christians will continue to join the military.
without christians, you got no military:)
so it's something other than that.

just look this over (if ya feel like it), and see how ridiculous it gets:

supposedly Christians make up between 70-80% of the military.
okay. and they have tons of clergy, supposedly.
mkay.

hindu; jewish; muslim and others make up a tiny portion of the military,
and they have clergy.
according to militaryatheists.org those groups are hugely over-represented in chaplaincy.
uh..okay.

Military Association of Atheists & Freethinkers | Military Religious Demographics - Military Association of Atheists & Freethinkers < click

atheists say they make up 0.37% of the military.
and they are ticked off because they have no chaplaincy.







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Ahh that bodes the $64,000 question that we really do not want to answer. If we are a 'Christian" nation with that high of a percentage of Christians,why is it that one often cannot tell the difference between us and any pagan country? Perhaps if we thought about it could it be that the radical Muslims have it right when they call the US the great Satan? Are they right when they see how we act,do we as a nation show what it is to be a true Christian or do they see the falseness? They see our so called morals (which really aren't morals at all) and maybe perhaps they see the falseness of many that call themselves Christian? A point to ponder when people who are watching you see you so much clearer then you do.
 
I don't think we'll have to worry about our Christian soldiers:
2 Thessalonians 2:7 [SUP]7 [/SUP]For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
Our Christian soldiers will be protected until they no longer need it.
 
Zone, it's not Michael, it's Obama. Reagan would not have stood for this. Obama doesn't have the will or will power to stop it. He supports it. He is a muslim and said in his book that he would stand with the muslims. Americans are stupid for putting him in office and shows the failure of the church to preach the true gospel.
 
On another note. Americans want abortion, they want gay rights. God say's okay if thats what you want I will give it to you. But do we really want it. I mean we got Obama, We got scared to send kid to school. We got , can't say your christian in the military. Where does it go from there. We need the old time Gospel to sweep this country. I pray for America, Israel, and the church.
 
Zone, it's not Michael, it's Obama. Reagan would not have stood for this. Obama doesn't have the will or will power to stop it. He supports it. He is a muslim and said in his book that he would stand with the muslims. Americans are stupid for putting him in office and shows the failure of the church to preach the true gospel.

not Michael?
you mean it's not Mikey?

what are you talking about?

it's Obama? he's a nothing. he's an actor.

so was Reagan - who, btw may have been the worst President America ever had.

Obama's not a Muslim! LOLOLOLOL....he's a poor dim-wit who was ushered into place by TPTB.
Harvard Law grad? LOL SURE THING!

Zbigniew Brzezinski - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < click

Obama was groomed as a little kid....i kinda feel sorry for him and all like him, in that sense. warped as kids.

as a young radical, he thought he was a cool commie. he is a commie. he doesn't believe in any god.
well...he and abe foxman believe in the same god....they bless each other in their god's name.
their god says severing infants limb from limb in the womb is trendy.

he's now stuck. blackmailed into place, and he deserves it.

he does what he's told.

here's his late mother:

Ann Dunham
Ann Dunham - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < click

find out who she was, then you'll know a teeny bit more...lol.
 
earl: Obama and Ronnie Raygun had a common patron:

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As we probe into behind-the-scenes German interwar history and the story of Hitler and Naziism, we find both Owen D. Young and Gerard Swope of General Electric tied to the rise of Hitlerism and the suppression of German democracy. That General Electric directors are to be found in each of these three distinct historical categories — i.e., the development of the Soviet Union, the creation of Roosevelt's New Deal, and the rise of Hitlerism — suggests how elements of Big Business are keenly interested in the socialization of the world, for their own purposes and objectives, rather than the maintenance of the impartial market place in a free society.4 General Electric profited handsomely from Bolshevism, from Roosevelt's New Deal socialism, and, as we shall see below, from national socialism in Hitler's Germany.
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earl, this had always been about Fascism (corporatism).
'the State' takes everything and murders and enslaves the citizens.

and it's always been global.
that's why ppl can't understand it.

these people are internationalies.
they live in nations, but are loyal to none.

today they call it Communitarianism:rolleyes:

Communitarian ideas have also played a significant role in public life through their incorporation into the electoral platforms and policies of Western political leaders of the late 20th and early 21st centuries, including British Prime Minister Tony Blair, Dutch Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende, and U.S. Presidents Bill Clinton and Barack Obama.

Varieties of communitarianism
The term communitarian was coined in 1841 by John Goodwyn Barmby, a leader of the British Chartist movement, who used it to refer to utopian socialists and others who experimented with unusual communal lifestyles. It was rarely used in the generations that followed.

It was not until the 1980s that the term gained currency through its association with the work of a small group of mostly American political philosophers who argued for the importance of the common good in opposition to contemporary liberals and libertarians, who emphasized the good for individuals, particularly including personal autonomy and individual rights. The Canadian philosopher Charles Taylor and the American political theorist Michael Sandel were among the most prominent scholars of this brand of communitarianism. Other political theorists and philosophers who were often cited as communitarians in this sense, or whose work exhibited elements of such communitarian thinking, included Shlomo Avineri, Seyla Benhabib, Avner de-Shalit, Jean Bethke Elshtain, Amitai Etzioni, William A. Galston, Alasdair MacIntyre, Philip Selznick, and Michael Walzer.

communitarianism (political and social philosophy) -- Encyclopedia Britannica < click


What Is A Communitarian? by Niki Raapana

Communitarians believe that all neighborhoods should be governed like Chinese collectives.

They teach that mandatory volunteerism in the community is a moral obligation of all citizens, and that intervening and reporting on your neighbors is required to maintain their individual freedom.

It may sound like two conflicting ideologies, but it’s not.

Communitarianism balances all political conflicts into one master, ideological solution.

The obscure term was introduced to the world in the 1990’s, but it was actually created at the same time Marx and Engel drafted the anti-thesis to capitalism, called communism.

In 1848, the Communist Manifesto established the rules for the “constant conflict” between British-European merchant “slavery” versus downtrodden workers, peasants,and serfs.

In 1776, 90% of the American colonials were small private landowners, not downtrodden serfs, and the African slave trade was dominated by elites.The capitalism of Marx’s economic theory of Dialectical Materialism was never the capitalism of American free men. Exploitation of the masses was not originally an American ideal. American revolutionaries fought against the Imperial global financial scheme, and upon winning their freedom they created state governments to protect the individual property of the common man, and a federal government to protect the rights of the individual states.

Over the years, thanks to a constant barrage of propaganda and outright lies, the conflict came to be represented by individualistic corporate capitalism on the right, versus the rights of the common good on the left, and protecting the common man was relegated down into selfishness.

The conflict between capitalism and communism was never authentic, and based on a false conflict, the communitarian solution was planned as the final move of the Marxist theoretical revolutionary economic game equation.

Designed to change the world, the stated goal of the Marxists was to promote global conflicts, create chaos and disorder, and offer up a predetermined evolved society, benevolently ruled exclusively by them.


Niki Raapana on Communitarianism < click



America is approx 8 years away from this goal.
if they stay on track with their planning.
occasionally they have setbacks.
 
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earl, this had always been about Fascism (corporatism).
'the State' takes everything and murders and enslaves the citizens.

guess i need to clarify: "The State" ("Communism") was never really just a monolithic "State".
it was always rich elites who owned everything.
today, we know that as The Corporation.

the Corporation under the Constitution is declared to be a Legal Person.
with all the rights of a human being.
yet it is exempt from the responsiblity of a human being.




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It will lead to the rounding up and execution of born again bible believers. This mr B.O. is evil, and the sad pathetic thing is that most pseudo - christians are blind and have been given over to a reprobate mind and just love this evil. Hosea 4 verse 6
 
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^ Alex is nuts, of course, but his guest Jon Rappaport is always interesting to listen to. He was a respectable investigative reporter for 20 years.
 
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^ Alex is nuts, of course, but his guest Jon Rappaport is always interesting to listen to. He was a respectable investigative reporter for 20 years.

can just slide ahead to 50 minutes and get Rappaport saying it all, alone.

course that's just for conspiracy kooks.
 
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You threw the bums a dime in your prime, didn't you?
People'd call, say, "Beware doll, you're bound to fall"
You thought they were all kiddin' you
You used to laugh about
Everybody that was hangin' out
Now you don't talk so loud
Now you don't seem so proud
About having to be scrounging for your next meal.
 
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