Personality and Conspiracy Theories: What Your Beliefs Say About You

[Ugly]

Why would I, or anyone, for that matter, care about the opinions of someone entangled in depression, suicidal thoughts, a dislike of police, and an affinity for nutty conspiracies. Seriously, unlike you, my wife is well adjusted and has many interests of her own that, unlike you, are healthy and don't display acute mental illness. Go obsess on someone who has an interest in providing helpful mental health advice, not me.

People with mental illness have reasons for their behavior and thinking that are often out of their control. You though? What is the basis for your being an insensitive, egotistical jerk that has to look down, and talk down, to people who are in need? Since you can't blame mental illness, you must have another reason. Usually for that kind of behavior it requires narcissism, a mental illness, or some pretty serious insecurities... which would mean some deep-seated issues.

 

[blue_ladybug]

I don't agree with conspiracy theories and I don't generally dislike the police and Blue and I have butted heads at times in the past, but that's not cool, man. Not cool at all. I used to give you the benefit of the doubt. Now I doubt I'll give you the benefit.

​Tintin and Blain, let him run his mouth. Every slur and insult of his only brings him one step closer to getting banned. If he feels he has to insult me, it's fine.. I just pray he never has to go through cancer or depression or anything like that. Sinnerman doesn't care how he sounds, all he cares about is belittling those who believe in something he doesn't..

 

[ThomistColin]

Here is my issue. We as Christians, from a worldview, are I believe more easily engaged by the Conspiracy Theory, because inherent within our faith is the fact that there is a GRAND Conspiracy, Satan is the god of this world (to use the phrase from Scripture). Satan is in rebellion and his rebellion is beyond nations, governments, kings, Secret Service, James Bond style geo-politics. However, I fear that in the absence of an enemy before our eyes that can be tangibly touched and seen, we become suspicious of all that we encounter. Jesus said that He came to give life and that we may have life in its fullness.

What I see from many conspiracy theorists is this: (This is an analogy)
1.
I see a rose and go to smell it,
the Lord responds, "Roses have thorns be careful."
I pick up the rose, aware of the thorns and enjoy the fragrance created by God.
2.
I see a rose and go to smell it,
a Conspiracy Theorist responds, "Make sure its a rose before you touch it."
I pick up the rose to inspect it, and cut myself on the thorn.

In both cases, the basic advice was true, but only one was helpful.

 

[KennethC]

ok i am in agreement with you about conspiracy theories...but using someone's depression and suicidal thoughts as 'ammo' for personal criticism is kind of over the line...

It's not kind of over the line, it is over the line big time !!!

 

[blue_ladybug]

Everyone is entitled to believe what they believe in, even if others don't agree. I don't put much stock in other conspiracy theories, but I DO find alot of things about 9/11 that don't add up. If others here want to believe the "official" version that the media gave us, that's fine with me. Don't try shoving your belief about it on me, and I won't shove my belief about it on you. People like jaybird, Brainfreeze, and Dude653 don't deserve to be called crazy, delusional, crazy kooks, or anything like that. It's rude, it's disrespectful and Jesus would certainly never say that to them. Yet Sinnerman constantly and consistently calls them names, belittles them, and even throws their pasts in their faces, not only on these threads in this forum, but in other forums also.. Apparently he fancies himself better than these guys, because he DOESN'T believe in what he labels "crazy conspiracies". He has great disdain for those he labels as kooks, nuts and delusional crazies..

 

[Sinnerman]

ok i am in agreement with you about conspiracy theories...but using someone's depression and suicidal thoughts as 'ammo' for personal criticism is kind of over the line...

POTS or Potural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome; a disorder of the autonomic nervous system that also seems to trouble devout conspiracy theorists who suffer with comormid agoraphobia and other anxiety disorders.

People here are enablers, for the most part. They see someone who obviously has mental illness and encourages them to take part in something that exasperates their mental illness. The depression and suicidal thoughts were simply part of her mental illness. Treatment, if she was serious about getting help, would include not making 36,000 posts on this site and embracing conspiracy theories and conspiracy nuts as friends who she always "likes". Very likely an agoraphobic who is slipping deeper and deeper into mental illness, right alongside of most of the conspiracy nuts on this particular forum.

You never encourage people like that. You tell them to get help. You tell them they need to turn off their computer and get a life. Go for a walk. Whatever. But first get more medical attention and medications. What she has done is attend some sort of 12 step group meetings where someone encouraged her to advertise all of her personal issues. That isn't helping. She needs a lot of mental health care. Not people feeling sorry for her and thereby enabling her to slip further into psychosis.

psy·cho·sis
[sīˈkōsəs]



[h=4]NOUN[/h]

• a severe mental disorder in which thought and emotions are so impaired that contact is lost with external reality.
  
  

 

[49]

​Tintin and Blain, let him run his mouth. Every slur and insult of his only brings him one step closer to getting banned. If he feels he has to insult me, it's fine.. I just pray he never has to go through cancer or depression or anything like that. Sinnerman doesn't care how he sounds, all he cares about is belittling those who believe in something he doesn't..

Sad to say, but this type of attitude you are referring to seems to be a trend on this site as of late. Have came across so many posts by folk that seem to believe they are always right, and anyone who disagrees with them are ridiculed, insulted and/or called stupid, foolish, idiots, etc. Can not tell you how many replies were cancelled on my part because my intentions when writing them were neither uplifting nor good. All I can do is pray and do my best not to allow them to push my buttons. God is in control...He sees all and knows all (of course you know this already). Let them explain to God.

 

[Blain]

People here are enablers, for the most part. They see someone who obviously has mental illness and encourages them to take part in something that exasperates their mental illness. The depression and suicidal thoughts were simply part of her mental illness. Treatment, if she was serious about getting help, would include not making 36,000 posts on this site and embracing conspiracy theories and conspiracy nuts as friends who she always "likes". Very likely an agoraphobic who is slipping deeper and deeper into mental illness, right alongside of most of the conspiracy nuts on this particular forum.

You never encourage people like that. You tell them to get help. You tell them they need to turn off their computer and get a life. Go for a walk. Whatever. But first get more medical attention and medications. What she has done is attend some sort of 12 step group meetings where someone encouraged her to advertise all of her personal issues. That isn't helping. She needs a lot of mental health care. Not people feeling sorry for her and thereby enabling her to slip further into psychosis.

psy·cho·sis
[sīˈkōsəs]



[h=4]NOUN[/h]

• a severe mental disorder in which thought and emotions are so impaired that contact is lost with external reality.
  
  

And what would you know about depression? I have struggled with depression all my life I don't understand why but I refuse to allow it to control me, and others who battle depression cannot simply get help sometimes the depression is just too much for them. Why are you here exactly? All I have seen you do is make judgmental remarks about others and we all know your stance on conspiracy theories but do you have to be so mean about it?

 

[blue_ladybug]

You amuse me, you really do. If nothing else, you're good for a chuckle..

People here are enablers, for the most part. They see someone who obviously has mental illness and encourages them to take part in something that exasperates their mental illness. The depression and suicidal thoughts were simply part of her mental illness. Treatment, if she was serious about getting help, would include not making 36,000 posts on this site and embracing conspiracy theories and conspiracy nuts as friends who she always "likes". Very likely an agoraphobic who is slipping deeper and deeper into mental illness, right alongside of most of the conspiracy nuts on this particular forum.

You never encourage people like that. You tell them to get help. You tell them they need to turn off their computer and get a life. Go for a walk. Whatever. But first get more medical attention and medications. What she has done is attend some sort of 12 step group meetings where someone encouraged her to advertise all of her personal issues. That isn't helping. She needs a lot of mental health care. Not people feeling sorry for her and thereby enabling her to slip further into psychosis.

psy·cho·sis
[sīˈkōsəs]



NOUN

• a severe mental disorder in which thought and emotions are so impaired that contact is lost with external reality.

 

[blue_ladybug]

FYI, Sinnerman, less than 50 of my 36,000 plus posts, have been on conspiracy theories. Guess I'm not as mentally ill as you think I am..

 

[KennethC]

And what would you know about depression? I have struggled with depression all my life I don't understand why but I refuse to allow it to control me, and others who battle depression cannot simply get help sometimes the depression is just too much for them. Why are you here exactly? All I have seen you do is make judgmental remarks about others and we all know your stance on conspiracy theories but do you have to be so mean about it?

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You amuse me, you really do. If nothing else, you're good for a chuckle..

This is what happens when a person does not deal with it personally or have somebody close that does, and thus all they go by is bias outside sources that know nothing about it as well or make bogus claims.

I love how people like or want to give counseling on something they nothing of !!!

I have seen my wife break down in the middle of a comedy and start crying for no reason, some meds help a little but others make her worse !!!

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

People here are enablers, for the most part. They see someone who obviously has mental illness and encourages them to take part in something that exasperates their mental illness. The depression and suicidal thoughts were simply part of her mental illness. Treatment, if she was serious about getting help, would include not making 36,000 posts on this site and embracing conspiracy theories and conspiracy nuts as friends who she always "likes". Very likely an agoraphobic who is slipping deeper and deeper into mental illness, right alongside of most of the conspiracy nuts on this particular forum.

You never encourage people like that. You tell them to get help. You tell them they need to turn off their computer and get a life. Go for a walk. Whatever. But first get more medical attention and medications. What she has done is attend some sort of 12 step group meetings where someone encouraged her to advertise all of her personal issues. That isn't helping. She needs a lot of mental health care. Not people feeling sorry for her and thereby enabling her to slip further into psychosis.

psy·cho·sis
[sīˈkōsəs]



NOUN

• a severe mental disorder in which thought and emotions are so impaired that contact is lost with external reality.

but that isn't what you said...

what you said was basically...'your opinion has no value because you suffer from depression'

if you don't understand how that is not fair to say then it probably isn't worth the time and effort to try to explain it...

anyway i am going to be done with this now because people are going to pile on and that is not a behavior i appreciate either...

 

[Mitspa]

Yea ... I pick on the conspiracy folks as well..but lets not completely leave the love of Christ.

Look sinner .you was winning the debate...no need to attack folks who come onto the forum and admit they have some issues with depression.

 

[jaybird88]

And what would you know about depression? I have struggled with depression all my life I don't understand why but I refuse to allow it to control me, and others who battle depression cannot simply get help sometimes the depression is just too much for them. Why are you here exactly? All I have seen you do is make judgmental remarks about others and we all know your stance on conspiracy theories but do you have to be so mean about it?

i struggle with it as well blain. but if someone living in this world, a world full of corruption, hate and all the rest, and this person is fully aware of it all and they do not ever get depressed yet live a happy life with out a care, then i would say they have bigger problems than us.

 

[Brainfreeze]

People with mental illness have reasons for their behavior and thinking that are often out of their control. You though? What is the basis for your being an insensitive, egotistical jerk that has to look down, and talk down, to people who are in need? Since you can't blame mental illness, you must have another reason. Usually for that kind of behavior it requires narcissism, a mental illness, or some pretty serious insecurities... which would mean some deep-seated issues.

Let me get my popcorn, Lay it on him easy Ugly...

 

[Brainfreeze]

i struggle with it as well blain. but if someone living in this world, a world full of corruption, hate and all the rest, and this person is fully aware of it all and they do not ever get depressed yet live a happy life with out a care, then i would say they have bigger problems than us.

[h=1]Ecclesiastes 7:3King James Version (KJV)[/h]3 Sorrow is better than laughter: for by the sadness of the countenance the heart is made better.

 

[DP]

Personality and Conspiracy Theories: What Your Beliefs Say About You

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...racy-theories-what-your-beliefs-say-about-youhttps://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...racy-theories-what-your-beliefs-say-about-you

Do you believe in conspiracy theories?

Imagine that everything we think we understand about how the world works is, in fact, an elaborate hoax. Democracy is a sham designed to fool us into believing we are in control. That a small group of unknown, unaccountable elites is actually pulling the strings and pretty much deciding the course of history; everything from the world economy and the conduct of nations to the media and pop culture is under their complete control. Anyone who says otherwise has either been fooled by the conspiracy or is an agent of disinformation.

Conspiracy theories are now a firm feature of popular culture - the recent furore around Wiki-leaks provided compelling evidence for this. But the popularity of conspiracy theorising dates back to the shocking assassination of American President J.F.K. in broad daylight and in front of dozens of onlookers on November 22nd, 1963. Immediately, many people claimed that there was more than one gunman, and conspiracy theories arose implicating everyone from the CIA to the communists. More recently, films like Oliver Stone's JFK and T.V. shows like The X-Files brought conspiratorial themes further into the mainstream. The terrorist attacks of September 11th 2001 have become perhaps the most widely debated events of the current generation. Many people doubt the ‘official' story, believing instead that the events were the result of a conspiracy.

So, what has psychological research told us about belief in conspiracy theories? Not much. Indeed, so far only a handful of studies have looked at the personality of conspiracy theory believers. This research has found that believers tend to be lacking in trust and higher in levels of anomie - the feeling that things are generally getting worse - when compared to people with low levels of conspiracy beliefs. However, these findings show correlation, not causation. On the one hand, it may indicate that people's conspiratorial beliefs are a result of their underlying lack of trust; people who see conspiracies behind everything are simply be projecting their own jaded view of the world onto events. Alternatively, lack of trust may follow from the perception of a conspiracy, reflecting a rational response to the reality of living in a world of conspiracy.

Basically a load of B.S. And bringing medical science into it is especially B.S. propaganda.

Anyone that can read John Robison's 1798 work Proofs Of A Conspiracy would easily know that was a fact of history, documentation discovered by the Bavarian police about the orthodox Jew Adam Weishaupt's secret Illuminati Order marking it as a fact of history.

 

[Bushido8000]

I would be incredibly interested to see if there's a correlation between an individual's ability to solve problems through critical thinking (not IQ levels) and whether or not they adhere to 1 or more mainstream conspiracy theories.

The problem with the first post is that wikileaks didn't provide "evidence" that there were conspiracies and shadow-governments, it provided proof without a shadow of a doubt. It blew the lid off of speculation and separated the world into a group that lets past propaganda and indoctrination control their choices/lives and a group that sees not completely clearly through the window of reality, but understands that there is mud on the window

 

[Bushido8000]

https://archive.org/details/Porpaganda

 

[GodIsSalvation]

I would be incredibly interested to see if there's a correlation between an individual's ability to solve problems through critical thinking (not IQ levels) and whether or not they adhere to 1 or more mainstream conspiracy theories.

The problem with the first post is that wikileaks didn't provide "evidence" that there were conspiracies and shadow-governments, it provided proof without a shadow of a doubt. It blew the lid off of speculation and separated the world into a group that lets past propaganda and indoctrination control their choices/lives and a group that sees not completely clearly through the window of reality, but understands that there is mud on the window

Lol wikileaks stuff was fun to read. It's not a conspiracy though cause it's out there for all to see. It's just kinda outdated is all. I thought the wikileaks stuff actually vindicated our government more than made it look bad. Though indeed the controversy to that was indeed the government pplz in secret understand like the rest of us these other countries and their "leaders" are kinda batcrap crazy yo. All sorts of stuff in Wikileaks may have contributed to Arab Spring cause then all the world could see not only what Americans think of them, but that the Americans telling the truth, their dictators off the hook. Gaddfhi and his family is a good example, lots of high profile stars going to perform shows for them, Gaddafhi's lavishness, his ties to "terrorism", all whilst oppressing his own people. Same with Assad and Saleh.

Consider with the current status of the election season also Hillary is one of the major figures being Secretary of State in the Wikileaks State Department Cables whose documents were leaked. I am surprised her political foes did notnote this given their e-mail scandal commissions. Though that's very superficial. If one actually reads her writings which she thought to be in secret, I think they to a degree vindicate her, though they do offer a rare glimpse into one of modernity's foremost figure both her strengths and weaknesses. Indeed this is why I said many moons ago her biggest mistake with her e-mails and stuff was she did not just release them full to the public. For then she'd have at least a base of support. By being cagey and holding on to them no support for her in the public and much wiggle room for her natural predators the GOPers to claw at her politically.

Though we digress sir Bushido, if none of the Wikileaks stuff is secret then its no conspiracy, nor even a theory. Lol though the cables do contain many conspiracy theories in vogue with our high government officials from a few years ago lol. Guess it's all a matter of opinion really.