Pope Francis Invites Israeli, Palestinian Presidents To Vatican

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I wouldn't say that.

Exodus 23:4-5 If you come across your enemy's ox or donkey wandering off, be sure to return it. If you see the donkey of someone who hates you fallen down under its load, do not leave it there; be sure you help them with it.

Jonah 1:1-2, 4:11 The word of the Lord came to Jonah son of Amittai: "Go to the great city of Nineveh and preach against it, because its wickedness has come up before me. [...] And should I not have concern for the great city of Nineveh, in which there are more than a hundred and twenty thousand people who cannot tell their right hand from their left - and also many animals?

These bible verses applied to the Israelites, not to the pagans. God the father encouraged his chosen people to hate the pagans during the times of the Old Testament.

Jonah applies to the Israelites who made themselves enemies of God via idolatry.



Forgive me for not explaining the term "enemies" in a specific sense.
 
the bible says a peace treaty will be signed.....its one of those end time prophecy thingies.
 
what does satan lie with?

partial truths.

Iraq was just minding her own business and wammo, evil christians blockaded her...uh huh.

Would you like me to list the palestinian atrocites?

Would you like me to list the concessions Israel has proposed, only to be rejected time and time again by Hammas etc?

There is a clear agressor here.

Where Israel is now is NOT the homeland, if such can be said of nomads, of the palistinian peoples.

To not see these facts can only be explained by the same reasonings that Israel is hated, bigotry.

I have put my case forward many times. If you still believe as you do then there is not much more I can do. You are a hard working guy with good ethics, I'll respect what you have decided.
 
These bible verses applied to the Israelites, not to the pagans. God the father encouraged his chosen people to hate the pagans during the times of the Old Testament.

Jonah applies to the Israelites who made themselves enemies of God via idolatry.



Forgive me for not explaining the term "enemies" in a specific sense.

He used the Israelites as a sword and a plow when it came to Canaan. They destroyed the cults of human sacrifice and sexual depravity and filled the land with a holy People who were to use it to the best of God's ability. But I would hardly call that hate. I would call it justice or divine vengeance. More people need to separate act from emotion in their estimation. Courts of law do that today. Not every violent act has malicious intentions. And motivation or intentions mean the world in deciding how to dish out punishment. The book of Jonah proves that God is and was willing to take anyone under his wing who turns to him. Also,

Matthew 5:43 You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.'

This is nowhere in the Old Testament. It's just unfortunate that people think Jesus was addressing and righting some perceived inadequacies in the Old Testament. At times God encourages the Israelites not to have pity on someone, but I view that as more so saying that they should not spare them (e.g. a murderer). Not that they should necessarily hold them in disdain or hate them.
 
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Rasul Allah (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam) said: "A time will come when the nations (of the world) will surround you from every side, just as diners gather around the main dish. Somebody asked, 'Oh Messenger of Allah, will it be on account of our scarcity at that time?' He said, 'No, but you will be scum, like the scum of flood water. Feebleness will be in your hearts, and fear will be removed from the hearts of your enemies, on account of your love for the world, and your abhorrence of death.'" [Ahmad, Abu Dawud]

If this is supposed to happen I don't think we've seen it yet. Arabic Muslims are hardly fearful or afraid of death or dealing it out (although I've heard some of them take drugs to get over this fear). They're just misguided. I wouldn't say I admire the Muslim terrorists, but they at least follow their convictions. If anything the world is increasingly becoming secular. So any such Muslim's convictions would probably get the nations' attention, and I don't mean in a good way. The majority of Muslims I would assume are conservative - you know - that group that's marginalized by the media? And since the media controls the minds of people, the world is beginning to drift away from conservatism.

At any rate, I can see the persecution of Muslims who maintain conservative convictions potentially happening, but not in our present time. And any conservative - including Christians or Jews - would suffer alongside them. Right now Islam is on the rise in Europe, and there are plenty of theocratic Muslim countries. So they're pretty safe for the time being.
 
If this is supposed to happen I don't think we've seen it yet. Arabic Muslims are hardly fearful or afraid of death or dealing it out (although I've heard some of them take drugs to get over this fear). They're just misguided. I wouldn't say I admire the Muslim terrorists, but they at least follow their convictions. If anything the world is increasingly becoming secular. So any such Muslim's convictions would probably get the nations' attention, and I don't mean in a good way. The majority of Muslims I would assume are conservative - you know - that group that's marginalized by the media? And since the media controls the minds of people, the world is beginning to drift away from conservatism.

At any rate, I can see the persecution of Muslims who maintain conservative convictions potentially happening, but not in our present time. And any conservative - including Christians or Jews - would suffer alongside them. Right now Islam is on the rise in Europe, and there are plenty of theocratic Muslim countries. So they're pretty safe for the time being.

Being scared of death means you are caught up in the material world. You don't want to leave this world which you are put so much time into, to go into a world which you have put no time in and destroyed. You don't want to move from what you have built up to what you have destroyed.

[h=3]Matthew 10:28[/h]And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell.
 

Have you ever asked yourself why they don't show the whole verse ?

The very first verse for example.

...retaliation is prescribed for you in the matter of the slain...

The rest of the verse speaks of the punishment for murder. An eye for an eye but there is a twist. The family decides the fate and can forgive. What is wrong with that ?

The OT goes into how we should act in a community and laws we need to abide by. The NT goes into how we should interact with each other. The Quran expands on the OT and NT and goes into how we should act in a community and towards each other, bringing them together. There is no turning of the cheek in a community otherwise the criminals will run amok.
 
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What about the other 163... lol. Honestly, there's more besides.

We come in peace so vote for us to leave you either in oppression to our false religious system or in pieces:

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Shariah: The Threat to America

"AIR, MAS and their allied groups are so practiced in deception, and so many American voters are so ignorant and indifferent, that this group could gain real traction. Meanwhile, given that Muslims of various sects vote as blocs in Iraq and elsewhere, it is not hard to envision such a bloc emerging in the U.S., and ultimately transforming American politics. “Muslim Brotherhood Launches Own U.S. Political Party,” from Investor’s Business Daily, April 1, 2014.

Islamofascism: With an eye toward the 2016 election, the radical Muslim Brotherhood has built the framework for a political party in America that seeks to turn Muslims into an Islamist voting bloc... USCMO also aims to elect Islamists in Washington, with the ultimate objective of “institutionalizing policies” favorable to Islamists — that is, Shariah law. This development bears careful monitoring in light of the U.S. Brotherhood’s recently exposed goal to wage a “civilization jihad” against America that explicitly calls for infiltrating the U.S. political system and “destroying (it) from within.”

The subversive plan was spelled out in hundreds of pages of founding archives that the FBI confiscated from a Brotherhood leader’s home in the Washington suburbs after 9/11. Translated from Arabic, the secret documents listed a number of Brotherhood front organizations — some of which just happen to make up the newly formed USCMO. Front and center is the Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations, the catalyst behind this Trojan horse jihadist political
party."

The Muslim Brotherhood's strategy for realizing its mission of "destroying Western civilization from within" was described in an undated 1991 Muslim Brotherhood document entitled "Phases of the World Underground Movement Plan."

Phase One: Discreet and secret establishment of leadership.

Phase Two:
Phase of gradual appearance on the public scene and exercising and utilizing various public activities. It greatly succeeded in implementing this stage. It also succeeded in achieving a great deal of its important goals, such as infiltrating various sectors of the Government.

Phase Three:
Escalation phase, prior to conflict and confrontation with the rulers, through utilizing mass media. Currently in progress.

Phase Four:
Open public confrontation with the Government through exercising the political pressure approach. It is aggressively implementing the above-mentioned approach. Training on the use of weapons domestically and overseas in anticipation of zero-hour. It has noticeable activities in this regard.

Phase Five:
Seizing power to establish their Islamic Nation under which all parties and Islamic groups are united. (Source: Undated Muslim Brotherhood Paper entitled, "Phases of the World Underground Movement Plan."