Pope Wants Freedom Of Speech Limited

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kennethcadwell said:
That is funny because every time the thought of war has been brought up here in the U.S., the American public has stepped up and shut it down. The majority of the people in the U.S. want to stay out of another war. Remember back when Obama first took office he wanted to go into Syria, the American public stepped up and told him no. He then listened and backed out of it. Same as every time McCain, Romney, or any other person in political office as stepped up to speak about sending our troops into a war effort. The American public has stepped up and shut them all down, as McCain was even called out by some to be tried for treason..........
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Just like the Nazis...we don't want to fight...but when the American People see that we have to defeat things like the Nazis and islam...they take care of business. We didn't want to fight WW2 but love and justice demanded that we take up the sword of justice and bring these criminals to account.
 
GodIsSalvation said:
Then stop trying to seduce them into fighting your war.

Again you talk about justice, but your justice is to have Christians killed in a war between a nation that is against Christianity just so they can fight Islam for you? What sort of justice is that? Your justice is broken.

Again, what freedom? There isn't any freedom in this whole world. Freedom is absence from the world.
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Its called freedom of speech...if you don't like it? Move to a place where they don't have it, like in the Islamic countries...Here in the good ole USA we get to speak the truth and nobody can stop us :)
 
GodIsSalvation said:
My agenda is forthright and I have declared it to you for days now. It is to stop you warmongers from seducing my brethren into fighting and dying in vain in your war between Western pagans and Islamic pagans.
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Nothing like placing a stake in the moral high ground to try to end the debate. There is so much wrong with your thinking I don;t even know where to begin.
 
Mitspa said:
Its called freedom of speech...if you don't like it? Move to a place where they don't have it, like in the Islamic countries...Here in the good ole USA we get to speak the truth and nobody can stop us :)
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As I said before and I say again. There is no freedom in this world. Freedom is absence from the world.
 
GodIsSalvation said:
Sad thing is we are actually now officially involved in the Syrian theater of this war. America has been spending over 1 billion dollars to fund Syrian rebels for the past two years at the least. I had seen earlier on the news they now plan on even training them. There goes America again claiming to fight for all this claptrap propaganda while funding the very same people that will be fighting them the next day.

Of course they call them the "moderate rebels" to make it sound like it's all okay. However anyone that has seen the very same videos these rebels themselves post knows they are far from moderate.
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Yeah I know that is sad, but I would rather see them fight there own battles over there for a change then the U.S. having to step in all the time and cost the lives of our own troops in their unending battles. Remember the training and funding is small in comparison to what and how our troops are trained. They train them with the bare minimum to defend themselves, and give them out dated weapons compared to what our troops use. I am not happy with it, but if it keeps are own people out of harms way for a change then good.
The other thing is that the U.S. has involved itself over 10 times with countries over there since 2000, and it has not made a bit of difference, the only thing it has done is stir up and make a stronger factions against the west.
 
kennethcadwell said:
Yeah I know that is sad, but I would rather see them fight there own battles over there for a change then the U.S. having to step in all the time and cost the lives of our own troops in their unending battles. Remember the training and funding is small in comparison to what and how our troops are trained. They train them with the bare minimum to defend themselves, and give them out dated weapons compared to what our troops use. I am not happy with it, but if it keeps are own people out of harms way for a change then good.
The other thing is that the U.S. has involved itself over 10 times with countries over there since 2000, and it has not made a bit of difference, the only thing it has done is stir up and make a stronger factions against the west.
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Then you either better start walking or encouraging energy independence.
 
It's really quite tragic that this current crop of idiots in Washington brought James Taylor to france to sing them a love song. The level of THAT idiocy is really quite astounding not to mention probably the corniest thing ever seen.
 
Sirk said:
Nothing like placing a stake in the moral high ground to try to end the debate. There is so much wrong with your thinking I don;t even know where to begin.
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You have all ready begun, you just can't finish.

Is it because you want Christians to fight in a war between two evils that you are wrong?
 
Mitspa said:
Just like the Nazis...we don't want to fight...but when the American People see that we have to defeat things like the Nazis and islam...they take care of business. We didn't want to fight WW2 but love and justice demanded that we take up the sword of justice and bring these criminals to account.
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Wow, you have been twisted to a false notion why the U.S. entered WW2.
It had nothing to do with love and justice. The U.S. was forced into the war by the Japanese attack on us, not by Germany and the Nazi regime.

" Although the war began with Nazi Germany's attack on Poland in September 1939, the United States did not enter the war until after the Japanese bombed the American fleet in Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, on December 7, 1941. "
 
Just because the pope is against thinking before you say something doesn't mean hes sticking up for the terrorist or saying free speech shouldn't exist.
 
kennethcadwell said:
Wow, you have been twisted to a false notion why the U.S. entered WW2.
It had nothing to do with love and justice. The U.S. was forced into the war by the Japanese attack on us, not by Germany and the Nazi regime.

" Although the war began with Nazi Germany's attack on Poland in September 1939, the United States did not enter the war until after the Japanese bombed the American fleet in Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, on December 7, 1941. "
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America still supported the war effort greatly by sending supplies to the allies, so I guess in a way they did it to make money?
 
GodIsSalvation said:
You have all ready begun, you just can't finish.

Is it because you want Christians to fight in a war between two evils that you are wrong?
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The sad part is that there is no empathy or compassion in your words yet you claim to love Jesus.
 
Mitspa said:
Its called freedom of speech...if you don't like it? Move to a place where they don't have it, like in the Islamic countries...Here in the good ole USA we get to speak the truth and nobody can stop us :)
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And this reminds me of your previous comment against me that I should join the Islamic State.

Quite curious how quickly it is you go from trying to seduce people to join the Western pagans and now you are recruiting for the Islamic pagans. Nevertheless, as I have repeated for days, do not fight for either side of this war. They are both against Christianity and they are both two sides to the same diabolical coin.
 
GodIsSalvation said:
And this reminds me of your previous comment against me that I should join the Islamic State.

Quite curious how quickly it is you go from trying to seduce people to join the Western pagans and now you are recruiting for the Islamic pagans. Nevertheless, as I have repeated for days, do not fight for either side of this war. They are both against Christianity and they are both two sides to the same diabolical coin.
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No just making the point that we have the right here to speak the truth and that right is worth defending against those that would take it away.
 
Sirk said:
The sad part is that there is no empathy or compassion in your words yet you claim to love Jesus.
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What empathy is there in your words? I don't want Christians to die in vain in a worldly war for two sides that are against us. You do, that's why you cannot understand my words. I don't want the Western pagans nor the Islamic pagans to die either, but you know as well as I do that they will fight and die. I counsel you to abandon the worshippers of principalities. Come you and join the side of the Christians. If not all I can say is fight your own war.
 
kennethcadwell said:
Wow, you have been twisted to a false notion why the U.S. entered WW2.
It had nothing to do with love and justice. The U.S. was forced into the war by the Japanese attack on us, not by Germany and the Nazi regime.

" Although the war began with Nazi Germany's attack on Poland in September 1939, the United States did not enter the war until after the Japanese bombed the American fleet in Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, on December 7, 1941. "
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Well I think its fair to say that America stayed out as long as they could...but Americans where fighting the Nazis a long time before we declared war and the Japs for that matter...But the point I made is still valid...these where criminals and it was just to bring justice upon them.
 
GodIsSalvation said:
What empathy is there in your words? I don't want Christians to die in vain in a worldly war for two sides that are against us. You do, that's why you cannot understand my words. I don't want the Western pagans nor the Islamic pagans to die either, but you know as well as I do that they will fight and die. I counsel you to abandon the worshippers of principalities. Come you and join the side of the Christians. If not all I can say is fight your own war.
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Its called free speech :) We should fight these criminals and bring them to justice....:) Not comfort them and worry about offending them. That's just silly logic that allowed the Nazis to almost destroy the world.
 
raf said:
America still supported the war effort greatly by sending supplies to the allies, so I guess in a way they did it to make money?
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I guess money played a part for some? But clearly they was those who seen at some point we would have to join the battle against the Nazis...including FDR himself... Who has said as much in his own words.
 
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