I can’t believe you can’t see what I was saying in my last post, but maybe we will get back to it later .
As for the sixth seal and Matt24:29 it looks to me like two completely different events. One is Immediately after the tribulation, and it seems to me the other is before the tribulation/mid-week.
Where are the two events delineated? Where are you seeing this in scripture.
The sixth seal is before the seventh seal, and in the seventh seal John saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets. And the seven trumpets sound during the tribulation, judging by the fifth angel/trumpet that sounded, hurt only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
By the time the 6th Seal is opened, all of the signs listed by Jesus in that verse have been fulilled. So the 7th seal is not relevant.
Also the stars shall fall from heaven.
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4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth
The devil was cast out mid-week and the third part of the stars were cast to the earth.
No. The devil is not cast out at the mid-point. He is cast out at the 6th seal. John sees three types of things in Revelation: things happening in Heaven while he is there, things happening on Earth as a result of what he sees taking place in Heaven and "wonders in Heaven" which are separate visions that are shown to him while he is in Heaven. Rev 12 is one such vision. He is seeing a narrative being shown to him in the form of symbols that is over a timeline. The woman, Israel was obviously existing before Christ came to Earth. The Man Child (Christ/church) is then showed being birthed. The Dragon tried to kill Jesus and He ascended and will try to kill the church but we will ascend to Heaven at the rapture. And then the vision continues because we see the dragon first pursues Israel, who flees and then goes after the Christians who are believers during the Great Trib/Day of The Lord. It's just logical:
16And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
17And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
If the church was just raptured at that moment,
there would be no one left who keeps the testimony of Christ on earth. That is self-evident. Thus your interpretation could not possibly be valid. This vision is obviously a timeline, not a singular event. And the church is caught up at the 6th Seal.
Also the moon became as blood in the sixth seal, but in matt24 and the moon shall not give her light
Two different moons, one is blood, and one is not give light.
The moon does not generate its own light. It reflects light from the sun. During a lunar eclipse, the Earth blocks the sun's rays from hitting the moon, leaving it with a reddish hue (which is the Earth's shadow).
Thus during a blood red moon the moon does not give its light. Same moon.
And in the sixth seal And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together
An opening in the heavens so the devil can be cast out, and that is mid-week just before the last 3 ½ years.
So it seems to me the sixth seal is opened before the tribulation, were Matt24 says Immediately after the tribulation.
Again, your interpretation is just way off. You are seeing "the tribulation" as a specific part of the end times chronology, and it's not. Looking at Luke 21 and Mark 13 makes it clear that the first 4 seals are not the end times. They are before the time of the end. This is from Jesus directly. The 5th seal takes place in Heaven. But the 6th Seal is where everything happens. It is obviosuly and clearly the start of the Day of The Lord. I think you are just getting caught up in the word "tribulation" but BIblically, the word does not have as much significance as people give it. There is "The Day of The Lord", "Great Tribulation" and "Daniels' 70th week." These are the main phrases used to describe the end times. "The tribulation of those days" is just a reference to the church age before the end times begin. Remember in the Revelation Chapter 1, John introduces himself by saying:
9I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation,
So he is acknowledhing that even back in the first century, the church was "in tribulation." So clealy, that term is not referring to the end times.
one more thing to consider. If you believe that the 2 witnesses are preaching in the first half of the 7 years (which I do), then we have an exact time marker of the timeline in Revelation:
11And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them. 12And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
13And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.
14The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.
15And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
So we know that the first 1,260 days in which the witnesses preach will end at the time of the 6th trumpet (which is called the "second woe" twice in Revelation). And right after their resurrection, the 7th angel sounds. So again, just going by the timeline the Bible provides, it is again impossible for the 6th Seal to be the midpoint of the 70th week. God bless.
