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NetChaplain

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Can you pray for others salvation? I believe one can pray in hope that one’s name is in the Book of Life. Actually, salvation is one thing you need not to pray for others, because “everyone that should be saved—will be saved!” Plus, the names of all who will be saved are already in the Book of Life, which was written before creation (Phl 4:3; 1Pe 1:2; Rev 20:15), and the names cannot be deleted (Rev 3:5).

This puts all responsibility on God concerning one being saved. It’s entirely comforting to know all this, especially if your name is in the Book. It means regardless of what you will encounter in your life you will be saved! Some telltales of salvation is seen all through the life of one who will be reborn. If we think about it, God has always meant something to you if you’re saved.

We see the buildup of concern for God the older we get, and things begin to come together more all the time that are related to God. Then He sends to you the one who will have the most effect on you about salvation, and before you know it—you realize you believe in God and Christ, and receive the Lord Jesus as your Savior.

Then you find you have more concern for the Word of God and for being with other Christians. You’re reading and studying it as much as you can. Then comes the times of trials and temptations God sends to strengthen your faith by exercising it in trusting Him to “work” everything out for your “good” (Ro 8:28).

It is as you unceasingly grow in the Lord Jesus (Eph 4:15), that you will find your craft of life taking you onward and upward via the trials and temptations that continue to “increase” the strength and vitality of your “faith” (Luk 17:5). As you continue to “endure” the “hardness” of the on-and-off testing of your faith (2Ti 2:3), you see yourself in the most important light; that of being “conformed to the image of His Son” (Rom 8:29; 2Co 3:18).
 

NetChaplain

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It’s my understanding that individuals must decide for themselves to choose to be right with God. Can you imagine how many more would be saved if God caused everyone who was prayed for to be saved? I believe once one desires God enough to choose Him, He causes them to come to salvation; and He also causes them to “desire and perform of His good pleasure” (Phl 2:13).
 

Lynx

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#3
It’s my understanding that individuals must decide for themselves to choose to be right with God. Can you imagine how many more would be saved if God caused everyone who was prayed for to be saved? I believe once one desires God enough to choose Him, He causes them to come to salvation; and He also causes them to “desire and perform of His good pleasure” (Phl 2:13).
If you could get people into heaven by praying for them, a lot of people who don't care anything about living right would wind up in heaven.

Then sin would be brought into heaven, which would ruin it. We already ruined one paradise...
 

NetChaplain

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#4
If you could get people into heaven by praying for them, a lot of people who don't care anything about living right would wind up in heaven.

Then sin would be brought into heaven, which would ruin it. We already ruined one paradise...
I like this reply! Pretty applicable. Thank for the comments.
 

blueluna5

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#5
Can you pray for others salvation? I believe one can pray in hope that one’s name is in the Book of Life. Actually, salvation is one thing you need not to pray for others, because “everyone that should be saved—will be saved!” Plus, the names of all who will be saved are already in the Book of Life, which was written before creation (Phl 4:3; 1Pe 1:2; Rev 20:15), and the names cannot be deleted (Rev 3:5).

This puts all responsibility on God concerning one being saved. It’s entirely comforting to know all this, especially if your name is in the Book. It means regardless of what you will encounter in your life you will be saved! Some telltales of salvation is seen all through the life of one who will be reborn. If we think about it, God has always meant something to you if you’re saved.

We see the buildup of concern for God the older we get, and things begin to come together more all the time that are related to God. Then He sends to you the one who will have the most effect on you about salvation, and before you know it—you realize you believe in God and Christ, and receive the Lord Jesus as your Savior.

Then you find you have more concern for the Word of God and for being with other Christians. You’re reading and studying it as much as you can. Then comes the times of trials and temptations God sends to strengthen your faith by exercising it in trusting Him to “work” everything out for your “good” (Ro 8:28).

It is as you unceasingly grow in the Lord Jesus (Eph 4:15), that you will find your craft of life taking you onward and upward via the trials and temptations that continue to “increase” the strength and vitality of your “faith” (Luk 17:5). As you continue to “endure” the “hardness” of the on-and-off testing of your faith (2Ti 2:3), you see yourself in the most important light; that of being “conformed to the image of His Son” (Rom 8:29; 2Co 3:18).
Yes, you definitely can!

I had a friend that was extremely atheist. She would even laugh when Christianity was brought up.... and would never step foot in a church.

Granted I'm not 100% sure she's saved, but she now is open to conversations about God and believes there is a God.
 

NetChaplain

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#6
Yes, you definitely can!

I had a friend that was extremely atheist. She would even laugh when Christianity was brought up.... and would never step foot in a church.

Granted I'm not 100% sure she's saved, but she now is open to conversations about God and believes there is a God.
Regardless of how they come to God, He already knew they would, because all who should be saved will be saved! Hence God has all the name of who will be saved in this Book of Life, which He made for the names, even before creating.

Thanks for the reply and God bless!