The Bible clearly states that it is the decision of the person if they want to believe or not.
I agree that we make the decision. We are the ones who have faith and we are the ones who believe. This doesn't rule out predestination. For instance, we could just say God predestined us to believe and to make a decision.
The Bible says that whosoever will can be saved.
I don't know where the Bible says this and I don't think it even makes sense. Whosoever will can…?
It looks like you are completely misunderstanding what the phrase "whosoever will" means.
Let's put it in a different sentence and see what if it means what you seem to be suggesting:
"Whosoever will jump over the moon can have my dog."
Does this all persons are capable of jumping over the moon? No….
The sentence just means that
if a person can jump over the moon they can have my dog. It doesn't say all men are capable of jumping over the moon. It simply specifies that there is no person-specific qualification, outside of jumping over the moon.
So what exactly do you mean by the phrase "Whosoever will can…"? I guess you mean "whosoever wants" or "whosoever desires"?
If that's the case, then I agree. Anyone who desires to be saved can be saved. But Scripture seems to be pretty clear that none are willing to come without the special work of God (John 6:44).
The Bible says all who call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Again, this is true, but won't help us resolve the dispute.
The Bible says that Jesus lights every person that is born in this world which means everybody has a chance to see the truth and be saved.
The Bible does say that Jesus is the "light, which enlightens everyone." But it doesn't say that this means what you are asserting it means. Nowhere does it explain this enlightening as somehow giving everyone the chance to be saved.
God is not a cruel God and does not pick who will be saved and who will be condemned before they are born because that would mean God is condemning people and God would not condemn people.
I agree that God is not cruel. But I think your ethical standards, your view of God, and your view of man is way off if you think it would be cruel for Jesus to not give everyone a chance to be saved. If God sent every single person to hell for their sins, that would be just. He doesn't owe us salvation, so it's not cruel for him to withhold it from us.
For another thing, it appears that in light of Matthew 11:20-21 and Romans 9 that you are forced to admit God is cruel (or else change your attitude).
How can God say He is loving if He condemns some people before they have a chance to decide for themself if they believe the truth or not.
Well in a sense everyone does have the chance to decide to believe the truth or not. The problem is all men decide to suppress the truth in unrighteousness. See for example Romans 1:18 and following:
Romans 1:18–20 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men,
who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature,
have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So
they are without excuse.
We don't get to create our own standard of what is loving and what is not loving and then see if God measures up to our own (twisted) standard. Instead, we allow Scripture to set the standard.
I mean, if that's how you want to play the game, then I can find you a homosexual atheist that would be more than happy to accuse your own concept of God as unloving and cruel for condemning homosexuality. Would you find that very convincing or no?
If it is a plan of God in His mind to happen in the future it is the same as if it already happened.
So if God plans to save each and every individual then each and every individual will be saved.
Does this mean you are a universalist (you don't believe in Hell)? Or does this mean you don't think it is God's plan to save each and every individual?
God already had the plan in His mind to give us salvation and the coming of Christ giving us His human body before He created mankind.
In other words, before God had even created the world, he had already planned for the fall to occur… I agree.
The Bible states that God is not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance,so God does not decide who will saved but it is up to people to decide whether they believe or not.
So, wait, did God plan to save people or not?
As far as 2 Peter 3:9 is concerned, we read:
The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance.
Who does the "you" refer to? Look back at verse 8: "But do not overlook this one fact, beloved…" It appears then, that Peter is talking about the elect. He is talking to the "beloved" and says to them that God is patient toward them, not wishing that any (of them) should perish.
The Bible clearly states that God has given the choice to mankind to decide whether they believe or not.
Which Bible verse do you have in mind?
The purpose of God creating mankind is to have people dwell with Him for all eternity,that made the choice to live for God,for then it is true love.
So true love must be made by choice? I think I've already asked you this question, but I don't recall you ever giving me an answer: does this mean you think a mother doesn't truly lover her baby and that a baby doesn't truly love its mother, because their love is instinctual and not volitional?
God wants people to choose Him for then it is true love.
Again, do you think a mother doesn't truly love her baby? Why do we idolize motherly love if it's not true love, I wonder...
If God picks who will be saved then it is not true love but robotic love,they would only be on God's side because they have no choice but to be on God's side.
Babies and moms are robots… got it.
God does choose a person after they have made the choice to live for God and do right.
God makes superfluous choices? "Oh, you choose me? Okay, then I choose you too!" is that how it goes? I guess Jesus didn't get the memo in John 15:16
To say that God does not choose some people before they have a choice to decide whether to believe or not would be blasphemy against the Holy Spirit for they are calling God cruel when God is loving.
I'm not sure what it means to say "God does not choose some people before they have a choice…" but it looks like you're saying persons like Charles Spurgeon, Jonathan Edwards, Matthew Henry, etc. (myself) are ****ed to hell for committing the unforgivable sin. (Out of curiosity, does this mean I don't have the choice to choose God… and does that mean God doesn't have the choice to choose me?)
I'm usually not one to complain about verbosity, but your post is very repetitious and you could have made your post a lot more concise by only saying things once instead of over and over. For example, instead of saying "God's creation is based on true love" four times, once seems sufficient.