Prime Minister Netanyahu Makes Excellent Speech at UN

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Aussie52 said:
We only have Israel's word, no third-party confirmation that I know of. There have been several episodes where Gazans were moved to certain areas then shelled by the Israelis.
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Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood placed those people in Gaza, then shut their Border and told them to fight Jihad. No other Muslim countries gave them Asylum either. Youve been Brainwashed. They commenced a horrific Jihad on October 7 then lied it was Genocide when Israel retaliated.

There has been a sharp rise in reports of violence against women and girls in the Gaza Strip, including early and forced marriage, according to a series of recent reports from the UN Population Fund (UNFPA). https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c94gm7dp40y0o
 
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Aaron56 said:
"Genocide" is not about numbers but intent: "acts committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group."
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"Palestinian" isn't a nation, an ethnicity, a race, or a political group. Israel isn't trying to destroy all of them, just the ones determined to violently eliminate all Israelis.
 
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NightTwister said:
"Palestinian" isn't a nation, an ethnicity, a race, or a political group. Israel isn't trying to destroy all of them, just the ones determined to violently eliminate all Israelis.
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I was just commenting on the meaning of "genocide". Nothing about Israel.
 
NightTwister said:
Your comment want made in a vacuum, it was about the accusation of genocide in Gaza. My response was that what is happening there does not meet the definition of genocide.
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Oh, I see.

What word should we use to describe those who are called “Palestinians” by some?
 
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NightTwister said:
"Palestinian" isn't a nation, an ethnicity, a race, or a political group. Israel isn't trying to destroy all of them, just the ones determined to violently eliminate all Israelis.
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The name Palestine has been used since the time of the Romans up until 1948 when Israel proclaimed itself a nation. The Arabs who occupied the land were call Palestinians for over a thousand years. They are in fact a nation just like the Kurds. 750,000 Palestinians were dispossessed from their land in 1948, the Nakba, and this has continued at the hands of the Israelis. Many of the Palestinians are Christians, although many have emigrated due to displacement by Israel.
 
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Aussie52 said:
The name Palestine has been used since the time of the Romans up until 1948 when Israel proclaimed itself a nation. The Arabs who occupied the land were call Palestinians for over a thousand years. They are in fact a nation just like the Kurds. 750,000 Palestinians were dispossessed from their land in 1948, the Nakba, and this has continued at the hands of the Israelis. Many of the Palestinians are Christians, although many have emigrated due to displacement by Israel.
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Just because people use a name doesn't make it accurate. They are Arabs living in Israel.
 
Aussie52 said:
The name Palestine has been used since the time of the Romans up until 1948 when Israel proclaimed itself a nation. The Arabs who occupied the land were call Palestinians for over a thousand years.
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Jews were called Palestinians, the Romans gave the name to them.


Aussie52 said:
They are in fact a nation just like the Kurds.
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They have never been a nation, that is a fact!!

Aussie52 said:
750,000 Palestinians were dispossessed from their land in 1948, the Nakba,
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Absolutely false.



Aussie52 said:
Many of the Palestinians are Christians, although many have emigrated due to displacement by Israel
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Palestinian Christians make up approximately 1% of the total population. Thanks to Hamas.
 
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Aussie52 said:
O yes, it is and time will prove it so.
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No it isn't. Facts do not back that up. And the legal definition is very precise. Hamas-run Gaza Health Ministry has repeatedly admitted to significant flaws, gaps, and revisions within its own data. Independent statisticians, think tanks, and defense officials have frequently pointed out these discrepancies as evidence of systematic narrative manipulation.
The Hamas-run Gaza Health Ministry formally acknowledged that it had "incomplete data" for more than 11,000 to 12,000 recorded fatalities. The ministry noted that these specific records lacked essential identifying markers, such as valid identity numbers, full names, dates of birth, or exact dates of death.
The ministry has quietly removed thousands of names from its published lists during data-cleaning revisions. For example, analyses of ministry updates revealed that thousands of entries were removed because they were discovered to be duplicate entries, living individuals, or people who had actually died of natural causes (such as illnesses or old age) rather than military action.



Statistical experts from institutions like the Wharton School analyzed the raw data and highlighted severe internal contradictions. For instance, on dates when Hamas admitted to losing thousands of its combatants, the "70% women and children" claim remained static—which would mathematically mean almost no adult civilian men had been killed in the entire territory, an impossible scenario. Subsequent data cleaning by the ministry shifted working demographics, showing a much higher percentage of adult males than previously claimed.

The Gaza Health Ministry explicitly does not differentiate between civilians and combatants in its public tallies. Every combatant, including Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) fighters killed in action, is categorized under the umbrella of general fatalities. Research published by groups like the Henry Jackson Society emphasizes that omitting the combatant distinction is a deliberate choice intended to maximize international political pressure.


While global bodies like the United Nations continue to utilize Gaza Health Ministry totals as a primary baseline, they have occasionally had to abruptly adjust their demographic breakdowns downward as the ministry updates its internal data verification.
 
Aaron56 said:
Oh, I see.

What word should we use to describe those who are called “Palestinians” by some?
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Philistines.

That is the background, the word was first used by the Romans to try and erase the Jews. Gaza was where the Philistines lived at the time of Goliath and David.
 
Aussie52 said:
Really, that's your best answer?
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If they were a people they would have a language, or a native food, native clothes, something that makes them unique from others. There is no language, food, clothes or anything that identifies Palestinians as unique from other ethnic groups.
 
ZNP said:
If they were a people they would have a language, or a native food, native clothes, something that makes them unique from others. There is no language, food, clothes or anything that identifies Palestinians as unique from other ethnic groups.
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I think your Aussie52 buddy is racist against Jewish people
 
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