Prophecy For The Now

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Bruce_Leiter

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Webers.Home said:
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● 1Cor 14:1b . . Eagerly desire spiritual gifts, especially the gift of prophecy.

The Greek word translated "prophecy" is somewhat ambiguous. It basically
pertains to foretelling future events, but it also pertains to inspirational
speakers whose content is stimulating, supporting, and motivating.

For example:

● 1Cor 14:3 . . Everyone who prophesies speaks to men for their
strengthening, their encouragement, and their comfort.

This kind of prophecy is sort of like roadside assistance equipped to jump
start your car's weak battery and/or fix a flat tire to get you back on the
road. This kind of prophecy is very useful seeing as it's for the now rather
than later because the now is where most of us spend our lives from day to
day, week to week, and month to month.
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The Bible's word "prophecy" is roughly equal to our word today "preaching," when it applies the Bible passages to the hearers' lives.
 
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presidente

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Bruce_Leiter said:
The Bible's word "prophecy" is roughly equal to our word today "preaching," when it applies the Bible passages to the hearers' lives.
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Can you show some examples of usage of the term in the Bible that illustrates that it means that.

I think Peter gives us a good rule-of-thumb understanding of what the word means. Peter wrote that holy men of old spake as they were carried along by the Holy Ghost.

That's generally what it means-- Spirit-moved speech. Often prophecies were preceded by 'Thus saith the Lord' followed by quotes from God.

Evangelists peached, but evangelist and prophet are different ministries in Ephesians 4.
 
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presidente said:
Can you show some examples of usage of the term in the Bible that illustrates that it means that.

I think Peter gives us a good rule-of-thumb understanding of what the word means. Peter wrote that holy men of old spake as they were carried along by the Holy Ghost.

That's generally what it means-- Spirit-moved speech. Often prophecies were preceded by 'Thus saith the Lord' followed by quotes from God.

Evangelists peached, but evangelist and prophet are different ministries in Ephesians 4.
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As I see it, the gift is new life from God through risen Son to all the people to believe it or not. Not be anybody better than anyone else ever in my honest opinion.
To ge the done work of Son done once for everyone and love all as are loved by God first. That be Son going willingly to his flesh death in our places, that was not understood until after he was risen from the dead, by his Father, those two did it for us, what was required for new life to be given to anyone. He had to go through death first, in fulfillment of Law and prophesy Matt 5:17, then yell to 'it is finished" in John 19:30
Then be risen on that third day to get seen by over 500 witnesses back then for assuredness. The disciples report this, are taught this in Acts for forty days before Pentecost, then Pentecost
The Holy Spirit, Father now lives in and through us all that will not quit belief to this does work of Son for them also
 
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presidente said:
That's generally what it means-- Spirit-moved speech. Often prophecies were preceded by 'Thus saith the Lord' followed by quotes from God.
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That is correct. And either speech or writing. Prophecy is divine revelation given by divine inspiration, and includes both foretelling and forthtelling. The prophets were primarily in the Old Testament (OT), but all the apostles who wrote were both apostles and prophets. Paul and John were both, Peter to some degree. The OT is called the Law and the Prophets, but Moses himself was a great prophet. Probably the greatest.
 
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homwardbound

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Nehemiah6 said:
That is correct. And either speech or writing. Prophecy is divine revelation given by divine inspiration, and includes both foretelling and forthtelling. The prophets were primarily in the Old Testament (OT), but all the apostles who wrote were both apostles and prophets. Paul and John were both, Peter to some degree. The OT is called the Law and the Prophets, but Moses himself was a great prophet. Probably the greatest.
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I think John was the greatest, the one who told the Messiah was there and Baptized Jesus. which Israel had not had anymore prophets until John the Baptist, three hundred years after the last Prophet from God. yet after the risen Christ as our Lord Messiah, there are no more Old Testament Prophets. Today God comes to live in us each as his personally. Hebrews 1 teaches this to me at least
 
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