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Then the corinthians would not be able to speak in tongues. Ore we have an different understanding from be filled with the Holy Spirit.
Ore for today, many charismatic rcc believers speaking in tongues. But at the same time they teach and follow all the rcc doctrines.
So how can a spirit filled person tell lies and false doctrines?
Ore for today, many charismatic rcc believers speaking in tongues. But at the same time they teach and follow all the rcc doctrines.
So how can a spirit filled person tell lies and false doctrines?
Yes, it's 'A' sign of it. Some people have the spiritual gift of giving, or forgiveness from God. Mercy! Charity! It can be a gift from God. Now I haven't said it before, but some people can see the spirit. I one time was granted the ability to see human spirits myself. And people can see your spirit, see the holy spirit, and also demons.
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“Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe.”
1 Corinthians 14:22 KJV
right . There were a bunch of people who didn’t believe yet at pentocost . The apostles received the spirit and then look at how it becomes a sign to those men
“And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.
And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilæans?
And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?”
Acts 2:4-8 KJV
Some of those men that same day converted and were baptized in Jesus name for remission of sins at the end of peters first Holy Ghost filled sermon there .
“Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation. Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.”
Acts 2:37-41
One of the foret things that brought thier attention was that all those who receives the spirit began speaking in other tongues which meant other languages the same languages those that hadn’t believed yet spoke …..
a few uneducated Galileans suddenly became multi lingual in a moment . But think of it he told them To do this
“Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.”
Matthew 28:19-20 KJV
In order do that it’s absolutely necassary for those men to be able to speak in other languages …….::make sense ? It’s a ministerial gift as is interpretation. You can’t have a discussion with someone of a different language about Jesus if you can’t speak tbier magiage and also underrrsnd it
“And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.
But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom;
to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
to another faith by the same Spirit;
to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
to another the working of miracles;
to another prophecy;
to another discerning of spirits;
to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues: but all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.”
1 Corinthians 12:6-11 KJV
thise are all gifts meant for building up the church spreading the gospel accomplishing the great commission . But yes it’s definately a sign to those who don’t yet believe when someone suddenly becomes a master of all languages I would be shocked and be listening probably
1 Corinthians 14:22 KJV
right . There were a bunch of people who didn’t believe yet at pentocost . The apostles received the spirit and then look at how it becomes a sign to those men
“And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.
And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilæans?
And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?”
Acts 2:4-8 KJV
Some of those men that same day converted and were baptized in Jesus name for remission of sins at the end of peters first Holy Ghost filled sermon there .
“Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation. Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.”
Acts 2:37-41
One of the foret things that brought thier attention was that all those who receives the spirit began speaking in other tongues which meant other languages the same languages those that hadn’t believed yet spoke …..
a few uneducated Galileans suddenly became multi lingual in a moment . But think of it he told them To do this
“Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.”
Matthew 28:19-20 KJV
In order do that it’s absolutely necassary for those men to be able to speak in other languages …….::make sense ? It’s a ministerial gift as is interpretation. You can’t have a discussion with someone of a different language about Jesus if you can’t speak tbier magiage and also underrrsnd it
“And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.
But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom;
to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
to another faith by the same Spirit;
to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
to another the working of miracles;
to another prophecy;
to another discerning of spirits;
to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues: but all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.”
1 Corinthians 12:6-11 KJV
thise are all gifts meant for building up the church spreading the gospel accomplishing the great commission . But yes it’s definately a sign to those who don’t yet believe when someone suddenly becomes a master of all languages I would be shocked and be listening probably
Picking out the worst examples of a movement is evidence usually that a person is totally against that particular belief system.
I'm a Pentecostal. I can't help what other Pentecostals do or act, just like a good Baptist or Methodist christian can't help what others of their denominations do.
We ar not to walk in unbelief of a biblical teaching simply because of multitudes of bad examples.
I believe what I believe based on actual scripture, Whether the multitudes are living it, teaching it or not.
So many today are believing doctrines because of how others believe.
Don't follow denominations' teachings.... follow Jesus Christ.
I'm a Pentecostal. I can't help what other Pentecostals do or act, just like a good Baptist or Methodist christian can't help what others of their denominations do.
We ar not to walk in unbelief of a biblical teaching simply because of multitudes of bad examples.
I believe what I believe based on actual scripture, Whether the multitudes are living it, teaching it or not.
So many today are believing doctrines because of how others believe.
Don't follow denominations' teachings.... follow Jesus Christ.
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Paul revealed being indwelt by the Holy Spirit is essential for salvation. "But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. (Rom. 8:9)
The idea that the Holy Spirit is received the instant a person believes in Jesus is a misconception. If it were so, why Paul's question, Have you received the Holy Ghost since you believed?
Scripture records speaking in tongues as the consistent witness of being filled/indwelt by the Holy Spirit. This is not just a coincidence. God always confirms the truth regarding any topic with at least 2-3 witnesses/scripture references. (Matt. 18:16, 2 Cor. 13:1, Deut. 19:15) Consider there is nothing other than tongues as confirmation of the initial infilling of the Holy Spirit. (Acts 2:4,33; 10:43-48; 19:1-7.
In 8:12-18, receiving of the Holy Ghost did not take place until days after the individuals believed Philip's message and were water baptized. What was missing that made the group understand they had not been filled/indwelt by the Holy Ghost? Tongues is certainly implied.
Acts 19:2-6
He (Paul) said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
The idea that the Holy Spirit is received the instant a person believes in Jesus is a misconception. If it were so, why Paul's question, Have you received the Holy Ghost since you believed?
Scripture records speaking in tongues as the consistent witness of being filled/indwelt by the Holy Spirit. This is not just a coincidence. God always confirms the truth regarding any topic with at least 2-3 witnesses/scripture references. (Matt. 18:16, 2 Cor. 13:1, Deut. 19:15) Consider there is nothing other than tongues as confirmation of the initial infilling of the Holy Spirit. (Acts 2:4,33; 10:43-48; 19:1-7.
In 8:12-18, receiving of the Holy Ghost did not take place until days after the individuals believed Philip's message and were water baptized. What was missing that made the group understand they had not been filled/indwelt by the Holy Ghost? Tongues is certainly implied.
Acts 19:2-6
He (Paul) said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
It was not a select few that spoke in tongues when they were filled/indwelt by the Holy Ghost. The sign of tongues was consistent in 100% of those who had the experience. However, there is no guarantee that a person who spoke in tongues upon the initial infilling will ever be used by God to speak a message to a congregation in an unknown tongue, interpret, etc. That's the difference.
You are mistaken. The individuals received the Holy Ghost as indicated in each detailed account:
Acts 2:2-4
"And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance."
Acts 2:38-39 (Jewish)
"Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls."
Acts 8:12-17 (Samaritans-half Jewish-half Gentile)
But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.
Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done.
Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:
Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost:
(For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)
Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.
Acts 10:43-48 (Gentiles)
43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.
While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.
Acts 19:2-6 (Disciples who did not realize they had to water baptized in Jesus name)
He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
Acts 2:2-4
"And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance."
Acts 2:38-39 (Jewish)
"Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls."
Acts 8:12-17 (Samaritans-half Jewish-half Gentile)
But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.
Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done.
Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:
Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost:
(For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)
Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.
Acts 10:43-48 (Gentiles)
43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.
While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.
Acts 19:2-6 (Disciples who did not realize they had to water baptized in Jesus name)
He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
There are numerous fruits and gits... the gifts are distributed in a way that not everybody gets each and every one.
To say we have to speak in tongues is contrary to what Scripture actually teaches.
From 1 Corinthians 12 verses 4-11 ~ There are different gifts, but the same Spirit. There are different ministries, but the same Lord. 6There are different ways of working, but the same God works all things in all people. Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. To one there is given through the Spirit the message of wisdom, to another the message of knowledge by the same Spirit, to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in various tongues, and to still another the interpretation of tongues. All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, who apportions them to each one as He determines.
To say we have to speak in tongues is contrary to what Scripture actually teaches.
From 1 Corinthians 12 verses 4-11 ~ There are different gifts, but the same Spirit. There are different ministries, but the same Lord. 6There are different ways of working, but the same God works all things in all people. Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. To one there is given through the Spirit the message of wisdom, to another the message of knowledge by the same Spirit, to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in various tongues, and to still another the interpretation of tongues. All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, who apportions them to each one as He determines.
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There are numerous fruits and gits... the gifts are distributed in a way that not everybody gets each and every one.
To say we have to speak in tongues is contrary to what Scripture actually teaches.
From 1 Corinthians 12 verses 4-11 ~ There are different gifts, but the same Spirit. There are different ministries, but the same Lord. 6There are different ways of working, but the same God works all things in all people. Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. To one there is given through the Spirit the message of wisdom, to another the message of knowledge by the same Spirit, to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in various tongues, and to still another the interpretation of tongues. All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, who apportions them to each one as He determines.
To say we have to speak in tongues is contrary to what Scripture actually teaches.
From 1 Corinthians 12 verses 4-11 ~ There are different gifts, but the same Spirit. There are different ministries, but the same Lord. 6There are different ways of working, but the same God works all things in all people. Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. To one there is given through the Spirit the message of wisdom, to another the message of knowledge by the same Spirit, to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in various tongues, and to still another the interpretation of tongues. All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, who apportions them to each one as He determines.
The fruit of the spirit are love peace understanding self control ect. not tongues
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