Prophets today

[Israel]

People that do not BELIEVE they can be led by the Spirit, CAN'T be led by the Spirit, nor HEAR from the Spirit. For them to SAY that they are led by the Holy Spirit of God, negates all cessationistic beliefs. You can't have it both ways.
Maggie

Do you believe that God is not in control of the whole universe?

 

[shroom2]

Do you believe that God is not in control of the whole universe?

Did God cause/condone 9/11?
Did God cause/condone the African famines?
Did God cause/condone the Indonesian tsunami?
Does God cause tornadoes/hurricanes that kill Christians?
Does God cause people to be murdered or raped?
Is God causing the coming economic meltdown?

My answer to your question is NO.

 

[Israel]

Did God cause/condone 9/11?
Did God cause/condone the African famines?
Did God cause/condone the Indonesian tsunami?
Does God cause tornadoes/hurricanes that kill Christians?
Does God cause people to be murdered or raped?
Is God causing the coming economic meltdown?

My answer to your question is NO.

He said He creates good AND evil.

Job 2:9-10

9Then said his wife unto him, Dost thou still retain thine integrity? curse God, and die.

10But he said unto her, Thou speakest as one of the foolish women speaketh. What? shall we receive good at the hand of God, and shall we not receive evil? In all this did not Job sin with his lips.

How do you believe Satan attacks us? Whenever he wants or is he ALLOWED?

 

[notIbutChrist]

Israel, you certainly do not believe God ordains the rape and murder of innocents, do you?

 

[Israel]

Israel, you certainly do not believe God ordains the rape and murder of innocents, do you?

Romans 12:1

1Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

By what means does He do it?

Isaiah 54:16

16Behold, I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire, and that bringeth forth an instrument for his work; and I have created the waster to destroy.

Does this destroyer have free reign or is he controlled?

Job 1:8-12

8And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?

9Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?

10Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land.

11But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face.

12And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD.


Without that hedge, we are at the mercy of Satan.

 

[notIbutChrist]

Is that a yes or a no?

 

[Israel]

Is that a yes or a no?

All comes from God. It is He who kills and makes alive.

 

[shroom2]

All comes from God. It is He who kills and makes alive.

God is love, God is light, in Him is no darkness at all.

John 10:10) The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

People are oppressed of the devil, not God.

 

[tjogs]

"Zone is a cessationist. She believes all the gift ministries and manifestations stopped once we had the completed bible."

Those are coming from holy spirit. Without holy spirit we are just fools and mad to other people, and without holy spirit Bible is (would be) just a book. Israel when the left Egypt had law but did they followede it. We have complete bible but does it change anything in us without spirit from God?