Psalm 129 -- May all who hate Zion be turned back in shame

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1 “They have greatly oppressed me from my youth,” let Israel say; What we are seeing with the cancel culture, and censorship, and AOC calling for a black list of people who are conservatives, we have seen this many times in the past. This is why many states would not sign the original constitution unless freedom of speech and freedom of religion were guaranteed. The country was started to get away from this kind of censorship. The Sedition act of 1918 criminalized “disloyal language”. McCarthyism in the 50s went after people for attending communist organizations, black listing them and is part of the lineage of the “cancel culture”. In 1964 in a case before the Supreme court between the NY Times and Sullivan the Supreme court unanimously affirmed “we consider this case against the background of a profound national commitment to the principle that debate on public issues should be uninhibited, robust, and wide-open, and that it may well include vehement, caustic, and sometimes unpleasantly sharp attacks on government and public officials.” (NY Times v Sullivan). We have seen this before, many times, from the very birth of this nation. Watergate is an example of election fraud. The FISA warrants issued to spy on Trump’s campaign in 2016 are another example of election fraud. Twitter and Facebook censoring speech they don’t like in an attempt to inhibit political debate is nothing new. The mass media suppressing stories they don’t like and protecting candidates from difficult questions is also nothing new to us. If you want to be involved in the spiritual warfare then none of this should surprise you.
 

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Excellent explanation and light on these verses.
 
Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.

If Biden had the judges and states in his pocket he would let them certify and he would welcome an investigation knowing they would back him. Instead they are rushing to claim the presidency, they are working hard to censor any claims of voter fraud, and they are saying "let's move on". So looking at what they are saying indicates they are afraid to go to court, they are afraid to air the complaints.

So how could they be so stupid? Perhaps they were counting on RBG being in the Supreme Court. Now you can understand the anger and outrage at ACB being confirmed, that ruined their entire plan.

So before anyone was concerned about what was about to happen God already intervened. Have faith in God.
 
Joe Biden, Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi and Kamala Harris need to all make a public statement supporting the recounting and audit of every vote. Right now there are 70 million people in this country questioning the results, if they don't nip this in the bud you will have 4 more years of half the country feeling the election was stolen. Trump is still president till Jan 20, the Senate is controlled by the Republicans till then as well and very likely past that time. If they don't nip this in the bud we'll have 4 more years of independent investigations, allegations of voter fraud and accusations of collusion with China. Joe said he was going to represent all Americans, so now is the time to step forward and join with everyone who wants to be assured that there was no election fraud. After all the Democrats have made it very clear that voter fraud is very rare, so there should be no problem doing a recount. You could probably limit it to Pa and Az as those are the two states that if Trump loses them he has no chance to win the election.

Check the software, allow observers to check every ballot, interview all the postal workers and poll workers. Prior to the election the Democrats filed over a thousand lawsuits concerning it, Trump says he has 1,000+ lawyers. So send 500 to each state and let the lawyers do these interviews. If they do 20 interviews a day they'll talk to 10,000 workers in a single day. Surely if there was anything that was "irregular" it will show up in that first day.

How hard can this be? Better to spend one week now to give everyone peace and security than to continue this nasty ugly business for another 4 years.
 
I was asked what I thought would happen with this election:

There are 4 requirements for what is commonly known as "The antichrist" but is very much misunderstood. The antichrist is not "the executioner" rather he is the executioner's axe. He is an instrument by which judgement comes.

1st -- he is described as "impudent and brazen". Paul goes into much greater detail of what that means. Essentially it means rude, uncouth, impolite, bold and shameless.

2nd -- he is a master of intrigue. I think the Peace treaty with Israel, UAE and Bahrain is evidence of this. But anyone thinking they are going to steal an election from "the master of intrigue" has miscalculated.

3rd -- he destroys the mighty, but not of his own power. -- Right now I have heard of 100 people who have signed affidavits of some sort of fraud either while voting, while counting votes, or while working at the post office delivering ballots. There are a thousand lawyers working in these states interviewing witnesses, gathering evidence, and filing lawsuits. Ultimately this will be decided outside of Trump's authority or power. This is the day of the Lord, He is going to judge the corruption.

4th -- Finally, he is not truly the executioner's axe until he has been tempered. He is killed by a head wound, resuscitated, and at that time a very evil spirit enters into him.

Some people are arguing that they would take any functional adult over Trump. The idea that the world can avoid this judgement by putting forward "any functioning adult" is wishful thinking.

Some people argue that many of Trump's supporters are racists. If Trump's supporters are the racist white supremacists that it has been claimed for 4 years where are the riots and looting that all those businesses were anticipating by boarding up prior to the election? The claim that "many of his supporters are racist is so vague as to be irrelevant. How about these people who were rioting and looting, were they Biden supporters? How about that guy who shot and killed a man simply because he was wearing a MAGA hat? Is he a Biden supporter? How about AOC calling for black lists of those who were Trump supporters, how about people in Hollywood who can't work because they are Trump supporters, how about the email from CNN threatening any Trump supporters with being blackballed? Instead what we are seeing is "the one that restrains". Jesus is here, fighting this battle with the church as His warrior. People are standing for the truth, they aren't standing for Trump or Biden, they are simply standing for a legitimate election based on our constitution. I believe that this "one who restrains" will be here right up till the electoral college votes, then He will step aside and at that time all hell will break loose. What I think is going to happen is that shortly, say in about 2 months time, you will see the racist, violent, evil people on all sides of the political divide killing each other. This will be like one cartel killing another cartel.

Some say that God is too smart to allow someone like Trump. Yes God is smarter than all these ones. Everyone that mocked and ridiculed Him it will be a fitting judgement to use Trump to mock and ridicule them. When I see Trump's rude and impudent speech I am reminded of the times I preached the gospel to atheists and their rude and impudent responses.

Some are confused at how God described in the New Testament could use Trump. He is seemingly a failure at everything he has done. Yes it is confusing, but it is because "it is not of his own power", he will have nothing to boast of. This judgement is of the Lord, not of man.

People think that if he is not of God he can't be used of God. Really? If that were true then God would not be omnipotent and omniscient.
 
2 “they have greatly oppressed me from my youth, but they have not gained the victory over me.

Preaching the gospel I have seen this repeatedly. False and slanderous stories, multiple hypocritical reasons why Christians should not be permitted to voice their opinions, and the use of intimidation of others so that they are afraid to be seen conversing with a Christian. Again, any of us who have preached the gospel are familiar with this kind of oppression. We also know that trying to hold down the truth in unrighteousness is like trying to hold a large block of styrofoam under water. It is hard work and eventually the truth pops up to the surface.

3 Plowmen have plowed my back and made their furrows long. Surely we recall the stripes on the Lord’s back from when they scourged Him. The stripes that heal our infirmity of being afraid of the prince of this world. 4 But the Lord is righteous; he has cut me free from the cords of the wicked.”

Pray, the Lord is righteous and just to answer us. He will cut the cords of the whips, He will cut the cords that tie the oxen to the plough. He will break the confederacy of evil men. Already we have some who are telling us they were supposed to illegally mark ballots, or that they illegally harvested ballots, or that they intentionally gave people pens that would make their ballots invalid, etc. God can answer your prayer by confounding their counsels and schemes and disappointing their devices.

5 May all who hate Zion be turned back in shame.

We should not be surprised if we are treated shamefully by the world when we bring the message of the gospel. However, when the Lord returns He will appoint their portion with the hypocrites. “See, I lay in Zion a stone that causes people to stumble and a rock that makes them fall, and the one who believes in him will never be put to shame.” This is to God’s glory. But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. It is fitting that when the Lord returns Satan is put to an open shame.

6 May they be like grass on the roof, which withers before it can grow; 7 a reaper cannot fill his hands with it, nor one who gathers fill his arms.

This is the judgement. Their “victory” will wither before it can grow. All of these ones who have colluded together to use secret and shameful ways, to use deception, to distort the truth, they will not be able to reap. No doubt they are hoping to reap some reward for their lies, but it will wither away and leave them empty handed.

8 May those who pass by not say to them, “The blessing of the Lord be on you; we bless you in the name of the Lord.”
 
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