Quran Contradictions

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shittim

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Islame does not Give Christ the rightful place as the only begotten Son of God, one of the Trinity.
It is a false, occult, religion.
 

Tinkerbell725

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You ask:

‘Is it true that Muslims will be given 72 virgins as wives in Paradise…………….?’

This notion is a fanciful misguidance, intended to appeal to impressionable young men, who are high in testosterone, but low in knowledge.

It is not found in the Qur’an.

Allāh (subḥānahu ūta'āla) says:

‘But those mindful of Allāh will be in a safe place amid Gardens and springs, clothed in silk and fine brocade, facing one another: and we shall marry them to fair ones having beautiful eyes.’ (Al-Dukhan: 52-54; my emphasis).

The text ‘and we shall marry them to fair ones having beautiful eyes’ renders: ‘wazawwajnāhum biḥūrin ʿīnin.’

Surah Al-Tur: 20 says likewise: ‘and we shall marry them to fair ones having beautiful eyes’ (‘wazawwajnāhum biḥūrin ʿīnin.’

The Arabic for a virgin (or maiden) is ‘al-adra’.

The word ‘biḥūrin’ in these sūrahs stems from the Arabic ‘ḥūri’; a word that applies to both sexes; (being the plural of ‘awhar’ (masculine) and ‘hawra’ (feminine).

In the Garden, therefore, men shall be wed to fair companions who are female; and women to fair companions who are male.

You continue:

‘And that there will be a free sex market in Paradise and also overflowing rivers of wine?’

The Qur’an refers to Heaven as ‘al-janna’, meaning ‘the garden’. It is the home of the righteous; the home of Peace.

Professor M.A.S. Abdel Haleem writes of al-janna:

‘Full knowledge of the real nature of the rewards of the righteous, the Qur’an says, ‘is kept hidden’, it has not been given to any human. The same verbal form is used in Arabic to negate such knowledge – la ta‘lamu – applies to the present and to the future: fa lā ta‘lamu nafsun mā ‘ukhfiya lahum min qurrati a‘yūnin' (No soul knows what joy is laid up for them secretly as a reward for what they were doing.)

‘No discomfort or ill health will result from eating and drinking there. The drink is pure. It neither dulls their senses nor causes intoxication (37:47); it causes no headaches (56:19); it is a cup which does not lead to any idle talk or sin (52:23).

‘In these pleasing surroundings stand ‘good, peaceful homes’ (9:72) with ‘lofty dwellings built for them, one above the other, graced with flowing streams’ (39:20). There are detailed descriptions of these goodly dwellings (e.g. 55:52–72; 56:15–34; and 88:13–16) – raised couches upholstered in brocade, goblets placed ready, cushions arranged and carpets outspread. We see the dwellers in pleasant company: ‘they will enter perpetual gardens, along with their righteous ancestors, spouses, and descendants’ (13:23; and 52:20–1) adorned in green silk. They sit on couches in a relaxed manner, engaged in pleasant conversation, recalling happy memories, absorbed in rejoicing; their faces shining, laughing and joyous (80:38–9).

‘There is no overt mention in the Qur’an of sex taking place between spouses in janna, although the relationship is lawful between spouses and the Qur’an does not shy away from mentioning it in the context of this world. The mutual love (‘uruban) between spouses in the garden (56:37–8) epitomises the most fulfilling aspect of the relationship between spouses as expressed in the Qur’an: Another of His signs is that He created spouses from among yourselves for you to live with in tranquillity: He ordained love and kindness between you (30:21).’

‘Part of God’s blessing on the righteous is that they will be joined in paradise with the righteous of their parents, spouses (azwāj) and offspring (13:23)…… Al-Janna is not the home of ‘believing men’ only but also of ‘believing women’. (‘Understanding the Qur’an – Themes and Style’; my emphasis).

Peace and Blessings be on you.


It is found in the Hadith if not in the Quran. Muslims are deceived because Allah is not the God of Abraham and Moses but the idol of Muhammad's tribe. The Jews called God as Jehovah not Allah.
 

shittim

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Niblo

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It is found in the Hadith if not in the Quran.
Good afternoon, Tinkerbell.

You appear to be concerned more with the status of the aḥādīth than with the Qur’an.

The aḥādīth are collection of traditions containing sayings of the Prophet (sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam) which – with accounts of his daily practice (the Sunna) – constitute a major source of guidance for Muslims, apart from the Qur’an.

The Prophet gave orders that no aḥādīth were to be written down while he lived (he did not want his own words to be mistaken for those of Allāh (subḥānahu ūta'āla), as revealed in the Qur’an.

The Muslim Community is divided as to the veracity of the aḥādīth.

At one extreme are the Qur’anists; folk who consider all aḥādīth to be unreliable; worthy only of outright rejection. At the opposite extreme are those who claim that to doubt the authenticity of even a single ḥādīth is to place oneself outside the fold of Islam.

The majority of Muslims appear to float somewhere in between.

Dr. Mohammad Hashim Kamail writes:

‘Muslim jurists and ulama have developed elaborate methodologies for the authentication of hadith with the purpose precisely to enhance the scope of scientific objectivity in their conclusions. This they have done in full awareness that in no other branch of Islamic learning has there been as much distortion and forgery as in hadith.’ (‘A Textbook of Ḥādīth Studies’; my emphasis).

There was extensive forgery of aḥādīth in the early decades of Islam, following the murder of Uthman – the third caliph. According to Dr. Kamil, the killing of Uthman ‘dealt a heavy blow to the unity of the umma’, resulting in ‘the emergence of serious political differences and partisan groups such as Shia, Kharijites and Mutazila.’

An ḥādīth that stands in conflict with the Quran – such that no reasonable compromise or interpretation can reconcile the two; or that conflicts with the accepted behaviour of the Prophet, or with another ḥādīth; or that conflicts with human experience, or with the natural sciences must be treated with caution.

I repeat:

The Arabic for a virgin (or maiden) is ‘al-adra’.

The Qur’an states – quite clearly – that, in the Garden, men and women shall be married to ‘fair ones having beautiful eyes’ (‘wazawwajnāhum biḥūrin ʿīnin.’)

Peace and Blessings.
 

shittim

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#46
the koran is not God inspired, islame is an occult religion that wars against the one true God.
The devil cannot create, he only attempts to pervert that which has been created, thus, mohammed was deceived to create an occult religion to acheive political political power.
 
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#47
the koran is not God inspired, islame is an occult religion that wars against the one true God.
The devil cannot create, he only attempts to pervert that which has been created, thus, mohammed was deceived to create an occult religion to acheive political political power.
Not entirely correct, but partly. The quran is a rip-off of the bible, or the torah and talmud. All the abrahamic religions are based on the same texts, so quran is just a shortened version, like a pamflet of the real boo, and modified somewhat. And yes, operated to gain political power, and rrule the world. A pervertion of the good book, and therefore blasphemic.
 

shittim

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"The quran is a rip-off of the bible, or the torah and talmud. "
Satan cannot create, he has perverted the scriptures.
 

Moses_Young

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#49
‘There is no overt mention in the Qur’an of sex taking place between spouses in janna, although the relationship is lawful between spouses and the Qur’an does not shy away from mentioning it in the context of this world. The mutual love (‘uruban) between spouses in the garden (56:37–8) epitomises the most fulfilling aspect of the relationship between spouses as expressed in the Qur’an: Another of His signs is that He created spouses from among yourselves for you to live with in tranquillity: He ordained love and kindness between you (30:21).’

‘Part of God’s blessing on the righteous is that they will be joined in paradise with the righteous of their parents, spouses (azwāj) and offspring (13:23)…… Al-Janna is not the home of ‘believing men’ only but also of ‘believing women’. (‘Understanding the Qur’an – Themes and Style’; my emphasis).
You make it sound as if Islam is considerate and beneficial to women as it is to men. But how then is there such a record of violence against women in Islam? Women being punished for getting raped, women being treated like slaves, women being killed by their own families for being abused by other men, and the sick, barbaric practice of female genital mutilation? In Christian countries, women are treated humanely and such practices banned. But it seems the inhumane treatment of women continues in many of the countries where Islam is the predominant religion. Why is this, if the Qur'an treats both men and women fairly?
 
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Allah was the little idol god of Muhammad's Quraysh tribe. Muslims worship the demon behind that idol.
The Bedouin Tribe that delivered Muhammed into the world, originally had about 360 "gods".
They decided to choose one, as their "only" or "allah".
They choose the "moon god".....

If you look at the Islamic flag, you see Him.
He is that Crescent Moon...

Here is "allah"..
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shittim

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#51
That is the way I heard it as well, pretty much a "god" for every day of the year, all demons of course.
 

Icedaisey

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Biggest Qur'an contradiction. Isa (Jesus) is not God, and is not divine, nor is he the son of God because the Qur'an says Allah has no son.
 

shittim

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#53
Yep, that is the biggest denial, Denying the only way to become right with the Father.