Rapture= false teaching

[VW]

That is Right ,Take your Time.walt2000

Thank you brother. I hope to get to take a good look tomorrow.

In Him,
vic

 

[greatkraw]

because with SOME people, anything besides pre-trib is a sign of being not saved.
i have no patience with a person who thinks a person's salvation is only found or is only acceptable in a pre-tribulation rapture

Well Zilla,
you are only 27, there is still time for you to start reading the Bible and thinking for yourself
but you will need a relationship with the Holy spirit to interpret it properly
just ask Walt

 

[Zilla64007]

greatkraw, it's people like you who give Christianity a bad name

 

[walt2000]

You don't really want do it my way.If you want to save twenty years, Let the holy spirit work ,My way is doing it the hard way. I fought it all the way. Everybody contradicted , What was coming to me. You have to figure out how to unbrainwash your self.
It was a new math. The laws of man are not that of The spirit. I purposely did things that I thought would turn him off. But when he Makes up his mind, at his time ,if you are what he wants. You you really don't Have a choice. It seems that The spirit knows His?walt2000​

 

[walt2000]

It is a true interp. of Revelation no time is Known​

This is the little scroll in Ez.2/9,Dan.12/4.Rev.10/4
Sweet in the mouth,Sour in the stomach
Can any one tell me ,or interpt.Rev.10/4
using the only rule in Rev. 22/18.19 .walt2000

22:18 I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book, if anyone adds to them, may God add to him the plagues which are written in this book. 22:19 If anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, may God take away his part from the tree of life, and out of the holy city, which are written in this book.​

 

[walt2000]

See just starting ,draws you in to Three books.Then how can it be done in one book? walt2000​

 

[walt2000]

The interpretation of Revelations.
The Revelation of Christ to John
Open to all,no holds barred.with belate.
Only one Rule. That Christ made himself Rev.22/18 -20
walt2000(Acts 2:16-17) “But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:”​

Ask anybody,(that Say's he is a prophet of Rev.) if they can interpet Rev .10, and tell you what the seven thunders said to the church's, if they stay within Revelation, and don't use any other book , then they are worth listening too, if they can not then leave them alone, they are false prophets.They all commit the same sin ,of Revelation 22/18 and are condemned.To with the plagues of Rev.​

1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified by his angel unto his servant John:​

1:3 Blessed he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time at hand.​

Unless you are compelled to study this ,leave it alone .Read Rev.22/18-19 and underline it.​

22:18 I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book, if anyone adds to them, may God add to him the plagues which are written in this book. 22:19 If anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, may God take away his part from the tree of life, and out of the holy city, which are written in this book.​

This is not a End of Time Prediction. It is a true interp. of Revelation no time is Known​

 

[walt2000]

Revelations reveled.
I am sorry ,but this proves everybody wrong.
The left behind books, and movie, are a joke,of jokes, and an insult to man's intelligence.
This will I know make every body a bit mad .
I ,in thirty five +- 5 years , I have not seen anything that compares to this.


Just reading, and I seeing you guys ,what you guys are going through,reminds me what I went thought, trying different things, over and, over and, over again.
I 'm in the country here, and I didn't have a computer to read, with all the idea's out there.Well Every body here thought, I was nuts having a obsession ,over a number.that came into my head, to just count the books in the bible.The only bible I could find was a K.J.V.so that is what I used,And ,I had to get that off of some one else,Well when came to no.27 it came out to Daniel.in the old test.
So I read it over and over,read the whole bible at least three times, I came to Revelation It struck me, in the middle of the night, that he was telling me a story seven times to,JUST like DANIEL and his LITTLE SCROLL ,So being catholic,I thought I would study it Helen Keller style.I would see If any of the other people ,I mean religions, had the same interp.I didn' want to study the catholic prospective,I didn't want it to influence me in any way.Well they didn't make sense now,now I don't consider that I'm a Albert Einstein ,but it just didn't make sense.
I Studied with the seventh day, the baptists.The Mormons ,the ,well all the religions , needless to say I got helped out of some church,s, one minister even got fired ,lot of them changed the study topic.Some kissed me, and when the leader heard what I was saying,they got me out fast, and got out right mad, nobody made sense.


One book ,all different.They had seven raptures I had one.I made a real pest of my self ,now in Winnipeg there are a lot of Church's and I was to them all,drawing a blank every time.So I thought I would write a book of my own. By the way 27 is the trinity cubed.The number of ENLIGHTENMENT., there I did not want to blow it so fast, but, that's what I found it to be. 3x3x3=27 the trinity cubed.


That is the first Thunder The Seals.
one letter to EPHESUS .Six Thunders to Go.
and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine. Jewish and Cristian promised protection.


The next two Thunders are together .


Thunder no.2 ,The trumpets(SMYRNA) letter no.two, Life ,2= union with Christwith emphases the
The witness's(3 rd. Thunder).(PERGAMAS) letter no.3, Forgiveness.3 trinity in Christ.
Thunder no.4 ,EARTH,THYTIRA ,promised power.Re.12-15.is shared with ,
Thunder no.5.,SARDIS promised clothed in White,Three angel messengers ,with emphases on THE WORD,Rev.14/6-15/5.Word Of God.
These are the only Thunders that are shared ,showing emphases on two sublets.
THUNDER 2 SMYRNA,UNION is shared with 3,PERGAMAS,Forgiveness,WITNESSES.
and THUNDER 4 ,EARTH,THYTIRA,power,is shared with 5.SARDIS,White cloths,PROPHESY


Unless you are compelled to study this ,leave it alone .Read Rev.22/18 and underline Rev.22/19
Read and judge ,this with a clear mind.



INTRODUCTIONI like to keep my victory on the top Read from bottom up


VISION OF IMAGERY EXPLAINED Rev.1/20
CONQUERER OF DEATH-Rev.1/18
VISION OF CHRIST-Rev.1/13
VISION OF SEVEN CHURCHES-Rev.1/11
VISION ON PATMOS-Rev.1/9
VISION OF SECOND COMING-Rev.1/7


MESSAGE TO THE CHURCHES-Rev.1/4
REVELATIONS OF CHRIST TO JOHN-Rev.1/1

FIRST PAGE OF ELEVEN ELEMENTS-Rev.1/1-20​

 

[greatkraw]

the Word of God is of no private interpretation

 

[Zilla64007]

the same thing goes for you.

 

[Graybeard]

the Word of God is of no private interpretation

then what would you term Johns vision of Revelation..or Daniels visions?

 

[greatkraw]

then what would you term Johns vision of Revelation..or Daniels visions?

if you read those books carefully they were each given an angel to interpret for them

the main point is that there will be a consensus among born again believers about a particular viewpoint

by his own testimony Walt's viewpoint is unique

 

[walt2000]

That is why it's unique ,It is hidden.
Between the White Horses.walt2000​

 

[walt2000]

I'll tell you something you probably won't believe.
I was Going home After being rejected at a meeting.It was winter up north here in Canada .
I wasn't in any mood, Being put down and all. Telling them what I new to be the truth .I was going against a blizzard ,Going over a bridged overpass on a highway,I stated to smell A high concentration of Lillics My eyes were watering, In the in-closed car, I could not see my hand in front of my face .Now what ,The car is going to breakdown? What should I do ,Stopped the Car opened the Hood and SMELLED AROUND ,Could not tell what or ware The smell was coming from. You can see me poking around under my hood, in the middle of a blizzard trying to see where the smell was coming from .Looking in the radiator, Doe's not smell the same . So I got back in my car and there it was again ,Could not keep my eyes From watering. I opened the windows and the smell was still there.Started to go down the other side of the bridge in a opened car.To the other side .Wondered what it was .On the other side, I closed the windows and started home .Half way home the smell went away.As quick as it came in.Still wounder what the mell was.Walt2000​

 

[walt2000]

I was told what the smell was, What do you think?walt2000​

 

[VW]

Was going to a revival in my car with some friends, when the car filled up with a golden glow, that somehow made the air thicker. The glory of the Lord. Could not talk, nor even drive. Pulled over and sat in His glory for I don't know how long. Got to the revival, and when they came around to lay hands on us, they said that we did not need it, because we had already been touched by God.

Yeah, I believe you.

 

[walt2000]

I'll tell you something you probably won't believe.​

I was Going home After being rejected at a meeting.It was winter up north here in Canada .​

I wasn't in any mood, Being put down and all. Telling them what I new to be the truth .I was going against a blizzard ,Going over a bridged overpass on a highway,I stated to smell A high concentration of Lillics My eyes were watering, In the in-closed car, I could not see my hand in front of my face .Now what ,The car is going to breakdown? What should I do ,Stopped the Car opened the Hood and SMELLED AROUND ,Could not tell what or ware The smell was coming from. You can see me poking around under my hood, in the middle of a blizzard trying to see where the smell was coming from .Looking in the radiator, Doe's not smell the same . So I got back in my car and there it was again ,Could not keep my eyes From watering. I opened the windows and the smell was still there.Started to go down the other side of the bridge in a opened car.To the other side .Wondered what it was .On the other side, I closed the windows and started home .Half way home the smell went away.As quick as it came in.Still wounder what the smell was.Walt2000​

......................................What can I say???walt2000

 

[walt2000]

THE SEVEN THUNDERS----------plus Eighth Thunder
In the SEVEN SEALS,THUNDER No.1. we start with WHITE HORSE WINNER are Show en where the seals are .The horses are the four spirits that roam the earth.Then a Great Earth Quake (war).Look to Thunder No.7 same place same war.---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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In the THE SEVEN TRUMPETS 2 THUNDER, just AFTER the great war ,the witnesses happen , in brackets ,to emphasize that area, the scenario of events.The last great effort of Gods people (the sealed).---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The WITNESSES THUNDER ,TRINITY,are the sealed amplified.To show Gods people from the WHITE HORSE ( the First advent )to the(Second advent) SECOND WHITE HORSE-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The EARTH THUNDER are the events that happen on this earth .In relation with the THREE BEASTS THAT ROAM .
1.THE EARTH .The Beast that we made of the holy spirit.
2.THE SEA .Beast that comes out of the countries. nations,and tongues
3 THE THREE ANGEL MESSENGER.--------------------------

( The WORD THUNDER)


The WORD THUNDER is an amplification of Preaching to the world, and the Babylon that incurred.Then the winepress ,to separate the true Christians and Jews from the pulp. To get into Heaven
The MAN THUNDER THUNDER No.6 The seven vials that is poured on mankind ,The blessed, are spared ,and then Heaven.


The DIVINE THUNDER. The confusion that starts off with,with the whore ,that makes war on his Church,The separation of His people ,(that winepress that is the same winepress that is in the Word thunder) Then the WHITE HORSE WINNER ,in heaven.
Then things which John seen in Heaven
Unless you are compelled to study this ,leave it alone .Read Rev.22/18 and underline Rev.22/19
At the out set you have to understand a little germatria.
When ever you see a number the number means a word.


Horizontally = The elements


1 = life
2 = No second death
3 = Forgiveness.
4 = Power.
5 = White clothed.
6 =Protection.
7 = Throne.


Vertically = Thunders
1 st. Thunder = Life,Thunder.
2 nd. Thunder = no second death,Thunder.
3 rd. Thunder = Forgiveness,Thunder.
4 th. Thunder = Power,Thunder.
5 th. Thunder = White ,Word,Thunder.
6 th. Thunder = Man,Protection,Thunder.
7 th. Thunder =Divine,Thunder.
There are two White Horses.First Seal Re.6/1 and ending with the second White Horse winner.Re.19/11
If you draw a line across and join them ,You get a Eight Thunder.Re.14/2 The Great Thunder


walt2000​

 

[walt2000]

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[walt2000]

Here Are The Seven Thunders Of Revelation,Hiding the Great Thunder .The blue line ,The Eighth Thunder It Tie's The Seven Thunders Together. Like A Seath of Wheat,If anyone Add's to this, It louse The Whole Story Up ,And mixes The Whole thing up. walt2000 ​