'Reductionist' versus 'Complete' view of the Gospel
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Reductionist approach in area of research is faulty. In all medical schools in America, every doctor is trained to go after the SYMDROME, but not the disease. "Name it, blame it, tame it," that's their strategy. They have a drug or a procedure for everything, and yet the people get sicker and sicker. That's a typical example of "reductionist approach".
Sweet! I wasn't replying to you in particular though, I was just putting in my 2 cents.
Not angry...just determined to counter false guidance about God's word. Your type of course blames the speaker. Take God on in your PC reactions huh?.......I suggest not.
Any committed Christian will exhibit the same passion. Where is your passion?
To be truthful with you I am very disappointed that more CHRISTIANS don't exhibit passionate interest about the false scriptural references seen here.
Hopefully that will change. For now I will put forth every effore to garner attention to God's word. That is the assignment I have.
We all make points differently.
Yours is Persuasive ....I might point out.
A good Christian will do what God commands and then move on full filling other commandments.
As i posted earlier...I canot remember where I got and included in my sunday school teaching notes from Rev. Graham. ...long time ago...perhaps 25-30 years ago. More importantly ..what does the Bible say about baptism? It is posted in this thread several times. Address that point.
Please get it right...no one was saved here on earth...they can be born again.
They can only be saved after physical death and then by God's judgement. Remember scripture....it is appointed unto man once to die and then the judgement. If one is ...SAVED.... here on earth.....then why the Judgement after death. Why isn't anyone trying to answer this question after stating they have been saved while on this earth?
Nah, you’re angry and self righteous. You get hostile when you can’t control people who disagree with you. You also think your salvation depends on your actions. That’s works salvation which is heresy.
God’s grace is a free gift given to people who place their faith in Jesus Christ. If you actually think the simplicity of John 3:16-18 is a false scriptural reference then you are to be pitied.
It was the Apostle Paul who said we are to work out our own salvation with fear and trembling. (Php 2:12)
There is only one Gospel, the one who has the ointment as a memorial:
Matthew 26:12 For in that she hath poured this ointment on my body, she did it for my burial.
13 Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached in the whole world, there shall also this, that this woman hath done, be told for a memorial of her.
"...faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works." James 2:17-18
Loving God is trusting that what He says is true and acting in obedience to His commands. Everyone is to seek FIRST the kingdom of God and His way of being righteous. (Matt. 6:33) Jude 3 indicates there is a common salvation, and it can be found by earnestly seeking out what was first delivered to the apostles. This is recorded in Acts 2 and INCLUDES the need for obedience to God's command to repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus for the remission of sins and receive the Holy Ghost. This is the foundation spoken of in Matthew 7:24-29. Without it all of man's "building" will be washed away.
I believe that’s about transitioning from a godless life to a Godly life. A life that is pleasing to God rather than taking His grace for granted.
Jesus teaches us in John 5:24 that he who believes in Him shall not come into judgment but has passed from death to life.
On a side note, I enjoy conversing with you. You have strong faith and a good spirit. Thanks for taking the time to share.
I find it interesting when people declare others self righteous that insist on being obedient to what the Word actually says.
You point out John 3:16-18. I suggest you begin at John 3:1 to see what believing in Jesus entails. It is important to realize that Jesus is the Word of God manifest in the flesh. This means to reject the truths expressed in the Word is in fact a rejection of Jesus. This truth is seen from Jesus' words recorded in John 12:48:
"He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day."
Also relevant is the fact that Peter's entire message was actually prompted by Jesus via the Holy Ghost that Peter just received on the Day of Pentecost:
"The former treatise have I made, O Theophilus, of all that Jesus began both to do and teach,
Until the day in which he was taken up, after that HE (Jesus) THROUGH the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen:" (Acts 1:1-2)
Thank you for the kind words. It is my sincere desire to help not hinder others.
I agree that Paul's words are about transitioning. As such, however, this can only be achieved after a person has experienced their spiritual rebirth that includes being indwelt by the Holy Ghost. (Acts 2:38) One's ability to achieve a lifestyle pleasing to God is only made possible through the empowerment of the Holy Ghost as we journey through life. Salvation is an ongoing process.
The spiritual rebirth and salvation are distinct from one another.