Refuting the Calvinist’s Denial of Free Will

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2ndTimeIsTheCharm said:
John Calvin was a mere man who twisted God's word to place all the blamre on God for not saving everone.

Stay away from Calvin's false doctrine. On judgment day, you won't be able to present Calvin's false doctrine to God as a case for anyone not saved.


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That's a strange way of looking at it, but if that's how you see it, you were predestined to see it that way...lol


https://www.youtube.com/shorts/DzJXQg6NYiY

For me in my predestination ways, it's very difficult to view anything different, if the chosen were designated, before the foundation of the world.

Ephesians 1:4-5

4 just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love, 5 having predestined us to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will,
 
kinda said:
That's a strange way of looking at it, but if that's how you see it, you were predestined to see it that way...lol


https://www.youtube.com/shorts/DzJXQg6NYiY

For me in my predestination ways, it's very difficult to view anything different, if the chosen were designated, before the foundation of the world.

Ephesians 1:4-5

4 just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love, 5 having predestined us to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will,
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For real, try to tell God it's all His fault that most people are not saved.

That's basically what John Calvin is saying. And he has to answer to God on judgment day for getting some people to believe it.


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2ndTimeIsTheCharm said:
For real, try to tell God it's all His fault that most people are not saved.

That's basically what John Calvin is saying. And he has to answer to God on judgment day for getting some people to believe it.


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I hope we can disagree and let it go. You can have the last word on this matter. Here is mine...


Romans 9

14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? Certainly not! 15 For He says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whomever I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whomever I will have compassion.” 16 So then it is not of him who wills, nor of him who runs, but of God who shows mercy. 17 For the Scripture says to the Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I may show My power in you, and that My name may be declared in all the earth.” 18 Therefore He has mercy on whom He wills, and whom He wills He hardens.

19 You will say to me then, “Why does He still find fault? For who has resisted His will?” 20 But indeed, O man, who are you to reply against God? Will the thing formed say to him who formed it, “Why have you made me like this?” 21 Does not the potter have power over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel for honor and another for dishonor?

22 What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, 23 and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had prepared beforehand for glory, 24 even us whom He called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

25 As He says also in Hosea:

“I will call them My people, who were not My people,
And her beloved, who was not beloved.”
26 “And it shall come to pass in the place where it was said to them,
‘You are not My people,’
There they shall be called sons of the living God.”


Noah(2014) Flood Scene

 
kinda said:
I hope we can disagree and let it go. You can have the last word on this matter. Here is mine...
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Calvinism is basically saying it's all God's fault most people aren't saved. As if there will be no judgment day.

They just don't want to acknowledge we have free will that makes us responsible for the choices we make.

For people who want to know the real Jesus, He died for everyone so that all have the opportunity to be saved. And He LOVES YOU!


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homwardbound said:
Willing = equals free will to choose to be willing for Father to lead, and one then loves all over the few, flesh first birth only knows how to only love those that love them back
Exodus 25:2
Speak unto the children of Israel, that they bring me an offering: of every man that giveth it willingly with his heart ye shall take my offering.
Exodus 35:5
Take ye from among you an offering unto the Lord: whosoever is of a willing heart, let him bring it, an offering of the Lord; gold, and silver, and brass,
Exodus 35:21
And they came, every one whose heart stirred him up, and every one whom his spirit made willing, and they brought the Lord's offering to the work of the tabernacle of the congregation, and for all his service, and for the holy garments.
Exodus 35:29
The children of Israel brought a willingoffering unto the Lord, every man and woman, whose heart made them willing to bring for all manner of work, which the Lordhad commanded to be made by the hand of Moses.
Judges 5:2
Praise ye the Lord for the avenging of Israel, when the people willingly offered themselves.
Judges 5:9
My heart is toward the governors of Israel, that offered themselves willingly among the people. Bless ye the Lord.
1 Chronicles 28:9
And thou, Solomon my son, know thou the God of thy father, and serve him with a perfect heart and with a willing mind: for the Lord searcheth all hearts, and understandeth all the imaginations of the thoughts: if thou seek him, he will be found of thee; but if thou forsake him, he will cast thee off for ever.
1 Chronicles 28:21
And, behold, the courses of the priests and the Levites, even they shall be with thee for all the service of the house of God: and there shall be with thee for all manner of workmanship every willing skilful man, for any manner of service: also the princes and all the people will be wholly at thy commandment.
1 Chronicles 29:5
The gold for things of gold, and the silver for things of silver, and for all manner of work to be made by the hands of artificers. And who then is willing to consecrate his service this day unto the Lord?
1 Chronicles 29:6
Then the chief of the fathers and princes of the tribes of Israel and the captains of thousands and of hundreds, with the rulers of the king's work, offered willingly,

Are we getting it, Father seeks those willing to serve God. Are you, I and others seeing to be willing
Matthew 26:39
And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.

Willing is the free choice given to all to choose to be willing to Father to trust Father to do Father's will in love and mercy to all, you think? I trust thank you
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Very good truths you bring...
 
kinda said:
I hope we can disagree and let it go. You can have the last word on this matter. Here is mine...


Romans 9

14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? Certainly not! 15 For He says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whomever I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whomever I will have compassion.” 16 So then it is not of him who wills, nor of him who runs, but of God who shows mercy. 17 For the Scripture says to the Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I may show My power in you, and that My name may be declared in all the earth.” 18 Therefore He has mercy on whom He wills, and whom He wills He hardens.

19 You will say to me then, “Why does He still find fault? For who has resisted His will?” 20 But indeed, O man, who are you to reply against God? Will the thing formed say to him who formed it, “Why have you made me like this?” 21 Does not the potter have power over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel for honor and another for dishonor?

22 What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, 23 and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had prepared beforehand for glory, 24 even us whom He called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

25 As He says also in Hosea:

“I will call them My people, who were not My people,
And her beloved, who was not beloved.”
26 “And it shall come to pass in the place where it was said to them,
‘You are not My people,’
There they shall be called sons of the living God.”


Noah(2014) Flood Scene

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Here is GW: Deut. 30:19, Matt. 23:37, 1Tim. 2:3-4.
 
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