Regarding The Guilty Conscience

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Everyone pretty much instinctively knows that sin is an impurity. But then;
so is a guilty conscience.

Heb 10:21-23a . . Since we have a great priest over the house of God, let
us draw near to God with a sincere heart, in full assurance of faith, having
our hearts sprinkled to cleanse us from a guilty conscience

Sprinkling was a common ritual in the Old Testament-- sometimes with
water, sometimes with oil, and sometimes with blood --for example: Ex
29:16, Ex 29:21, Lev 14:7, Lev 14 16, and Num 8:7, et al.

Sprinkling typically serves to de-contaminate someone or some thing in
order to make it suitable for God's purposes. Well, in point of fact; none of
the Old Testament's sprinklings served to sanitize people's conscience once
and for all time. They had to keep bringing one sacrifice after another in a
perpetual stream of sacrifices because each sacrifice sanitized their
conscience just that one time instead of for all time.

Heb 10:1-3 . . Since the law has only a shadow of the good things to
come, and not the very image of them, it can never make perfect those who
come to worship by the same sacrifices that they offer continually each year.
Otherwise, would not the sacrifices have ceased to be offered, since the
worshipers, once cleansed, would no longer have had any consciousness of
sins. But in those sacrifices there is only a yearly remembrance of sins.

Well; thanks be to God that Christ put an end to the tedium of perpetual
sprinklings.

Heb 10:14 . . By one offering he has perfected for all time those who are
sanctified.

The Greek word for "perfected" in that verse is teleioo (tel-i-o'-o) which
essentially speaks of completion; viz: finished.

The Greek word for "sanctified" is hagiazo (hag-ee-ad'-zo) which essentially
speaks of things and/or persons set aside for God.

In other words: the sprinkling doesn't actually clear somebody's conscience.
Sprinkling only makes it possible for God to account their conscience clear.

Accounting practices like that are a bit strange, but not unusual. For
example; at Num 23:21, the prophet Balaam, speaking for God, said: "He
hath not beheld iniquity in Jacob, neither hath he seen perverseness in
Israel"

Well; anybody familiar with the Old Testament would certainly disagree with
God's assessment seeing as how the record plainly attests that there was
iniquity and perverseness aplenty in Moses' people.

Another example is Rom 6:3-11 where Christ's believing followers are urged
to account themselves crucified with Christ and also to account themselves
risen with Christ from the dead 110% sinless and immortal.

I have no clue how those kinds of accounting practices work; but if they're
okay with God, then for sure they're okay with me too.

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The way it works is via the means of the law written upon the heart and in the mind.

We know this because Rom 3:24 connects "free forgiveness" to "redemption in Christ." Then connect ghe "Spirit of life in Christ" (Rom 8:2) in which there is no condemnation (Rom 8:1) and combine that with the "righteousness of the law being fulfilled in us" (Rom 8:4). Then take all that back to Rom 3:31 where Paul writes how faith (which works by love Gal5:6) upholds the law. Thus those who truly enter into the New Covenant are New Creations having the Seed of God implanted within (1Pet 1:21-22) and are thus made the righteousness of God in Him.

Grasp that and one will see why all Substitution Theology is extremely dangerous.

Good post Webers.
 
It is not an "accounting practice" but rather a reckoning conducted in conjunction with a truly transformed heart.

The pure in heart see God. :)
 
So go back and carefully read Romans, Galatians, and then Hebrews and the patrern becomes clear, especially as it relates to the parables and teachings of Jesus.
 
in 'old-time' tradition, a daily sacrifice was very sufficient and absolvant' and gave the guilty one at least a
little time of rest and relaxation, if not, of course absolution hopefully for a least a nite...
they could not have really been much concerned about their un-holy deeds/beliefs, for all they had to do
was bring an pure, innocent dove, and they were once again set Free to do as satan/the world bid them...
 
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Sometimes i do something and don't know for sure if it's wrong or wrong but if i feel any kind of guilt from it I assume I must feel guilty because deep down i know it's wrong. our minds are built in with a knowledge of right and wrong but the thing is that can be overridden if one simply doesn't care eventually they lose sight of right and wrong
 
It is willful sin that is out of the question for the genuine Christian Blain.

Without perfect knowledge it is impossible to make perfect decisions. God thus looks at the heart and sees the motive, hence faith is reckoned as righteousness by God.

If we err in ignorance then we will recieve correction as the Spirit convicts us, thereby the Christian grows in grace and knowledge.

The burden of Jesus Christ is light for we simply walk by faith one step at a time in accordance with the light that we have. Thus, if we are truly in the faith, we have a clear conscience before God.
 
Sometimes i do something and don't know for sure if it's wrong or wrong but if i feel any kind of guilt from it I assume I must feel guilty because deep down i know it's wrong. our minds are built in with a knowledge of right and wrong but the thing is that can be overridden if one simply doesn't care eventually they lose sight of right and wrong
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this is the reason for the words of 'Called, Elect, Chosen', and being 'separate'...
 
The way it works is via the means of the law written upon the heart and in the mind.

We know this because Rom 3:24 connects "free forgiveness" to "redemption in Christ." Then connect ghe "Spirit of life in Christ" (Rom 8:2) in which there is no condemnation (Rom 8:1) and combine that with the "righteousness of the law being fulfilled in us" (Rom 8:4). Then take all that back to Rom 3:31 where Paul writes how faith (which works by love Gal5:6) upholds the law. Thus those who truly enter into the New Covenant are New Creations having the Seed of God implanted within (1Pet 1:21-22) and are thus made the righteousness of God in Him.

Grasp that and one will see why all Substitution Theology is extremely dangerous.

Good post Webers.

Just one question, when you say the Law written upon the heart, can you expound on what you mean by the Law?
 
It is willful sin that is out of the question for the genuine Christian Blain.

Without perfect knowledge it is impossible to make perfect decisions. God thus looks at the heart and sees the motive, hence faith is reckoned as righteousness by God.

If we err in ignorance then we will recieve correction as the Spirit convicts us, thereby the Christian grows in grace and knowledge.

The burden of Jesus Christ is light for we simply walk by faith one step at a time in accordance with the light that we have. Thus, if we are truly in the faith, we have a clear conscience before God.

2 corinthians 7: 8-11 "For though I made you sorry with a letter, I do not repent, though I did repent: for I perceive that the same epistle hath made you sorry, though it were but for a season. 9Now I rejoice, not that ye were made sorry, but that ye sorrowed to repentance: for ye were made sorry after a godly manner, that ye might receive damage by us in nothing. 10For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death. 11For behold this selfsame thing, that ye sorrowed after a godly sort, what carefulness it wrought in you, yea, what clearing of yourselves, yea, what indignation, yea, what fear, yea, what vehement desire, yea, what zeal, yea, what revenge! In all things ye have approved yourselves to be clear in this matter."


to be sorry for sin is a great thing, because if we are truly " walking in the faith" it will lead us to repent and change our action. to be sorry and convicted of our sin, is part of repenting of it.
 
Just one question, when you say the Law written upon the heart, can you expound on what you mean by the Law?

Love God with all our heart, soul and mind, and love our neighbour as ourselves.

Under the New Covenant this is exemplified for the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts hence we abide in Christ and He in us. Thus we are partakers of the divine nature through the Spirit of the living God.
 
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SubstitutionTheology

Christ's crucifixion is commonly referred to as a vicarious substitutionary
sacrifice. But that's a misnomer because the Bible does not allow for
substitutions. The soul that sins; it shall die in its own place rather than
another soul in its place because that would not be justice; in point of fact,
that would be a miscarriage of justice. No; people themselves have to die for
their sins.

So; in order for Christ's crucifixion to protect people from the lake of
brimstone depicted at Rev 20:11-15 --wherein the lost will suffer
termination akin to a foundry worker falling into a vat of molten iron--
Christ's crucifixion, in some way, has to account as their own as well as his;
and God has invented an ingenious way for them to do that very thing by
a mode of baptism that involves neither clergy nor H[SUB]2[/SUB]O.

1Cor 12:12-13 . . For even as the body is one and yet has many members,
and all the members of the body, though they are many, are one body, so
also is Christ. For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether
Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink of
one Spirit.

Seeing as how that particular baptism is supernatural rather than physical,
then of course it's to be expected to make no sense whatsoever. However, in
a nutshell; what this particular baptism does is make people participants in
Christ's crucifixion instead of merely observers.

Rom 6:3 . . Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into
Christ Jesus were baptized into His death?

Rom 6:6 . . Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him

Gal 2:20 . . I am crucified with Christ

Col 3:3 . . For you died when Christ died

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The way it works is via the means of the law written upon the heart and in the mind.

We know this because Rom 3:24 connects "free forgiveness" to "redemption in Christ." Then connect ghe "Spirit of life in Christ" (Rom 8:2) in which there is no condemnation (Rom 8:1) and combine that with the "righteousness of the law being fulfilled in us" (Rom 8:4). Then take all that back to Rom 3:31 where Paul writes how faith (which works by love Gal5:6) upholds the law. Thus those who truly enter into the New Covenant are New Creations having the Seed of God implanted within (1Pet 1:21-22) and are thus made the righteousness of God in Him.

Grasp that and one will see why all Substitution Theology is extremely dangerous.

Good post Webers.
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Yes, all of those that are truly called, chosen, and elected, which means, that we start
on our brand-new-journey,
that we do start to become 'new-creations', but not all at once,.,
maybe for some, and that surely would be a great and wonderful blessed, thing...
we have never witnessed this...

we've been around to long and witnessed too many times that deliverance comes after
we believe and one cannot help but to act on that BELIEF/FAITH that we have been blessed with...,
with their whole hearts at the time with and with a continual daily building and growing upon
that blessed Faith...

this is a great miracle in our personal lives, and then begins the 'purging' of all
that we were born into and that entered into our bodies one way or another, there are so many ways...
an other words, where satan took over and we served him in his world....until we began hear and heed
our 'Holy-calling-out'...

Praise Jesus and His Holy Sacrifice,
Amen...