Religon Vs. Science

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Thus the buffoonery of evolution. I could arrive from another planet where there were zero buildings and make the simplest observation that someone created them.
I do not NEED to see the creator,only the blatant,no brainer evidence of engineering.
Why do you think this is true?

Pulsars are a type of star that radiate a rhythmic pulse to a regular beat. It was originally believed to be the product of "little green men" in origin because its discoverer didn't think that such a thing could be natural. Klerksdorp spheres were also originally thought to be man-made, but later turned out to be wholly natural.

Besides, this "design inference" is clearly not a standard that you actually hold. Rocks, sand, tides, and much of the rest of nature doesn't look "designed", but you believe that it was. It's not that things look designed, but rather your presupposition that they were that drives your belief.
 
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The bible is a bad book to draw scientific truths from -- and not just because a literal reading argues against the evidence for evolution. Consider Leviticus 11:6. It claims that rabbits are "unclean" because they don't have a divided hoof despite chewing the cud, which not even a creationist can claim with a straight face; it simply isn't true. The bible existed in a pre-science era, before many things that scientists have discovered since (such as dinosaur fossils, which is why the bible is silent about such a topic that would have been more than a little important to people allegedly co-existing with such danger).
Let's not split hares here.

I'm amazed that none of the Young Earth Creationists, with their extensive knowledge of Hebrew, picked up on this one.

Now that I have alerted them, no doubt they will.
 
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Originally Posted by Starcrash

The bible is a bad book to draw scientific truths from -- and not just because a literal reading argues against the evidence for evolution. Consider Leviticus 11:6. It claims that rabbits are "unclean" because they don't have a divided hoof despite chewing the cud, which not even a creationist can claim with a straight face; it simply isn't true. The bible existed in a pre-science era, before many things that scientists have discovered since (such as dinosaur fossils, which is why the bible is silent about such a topic that would have been more than a little important to people allegedly co-existing with such danger).

Let's not split hares here.

I'm amazed that none of the Young Earth Creationists, with their extensive knowledge of Hebrew, picked up on this one.

Now that I have alerted them, no doubt they will.
and not just because a literal reading argues against the evidence for evolution.
There is no evidence of/for evolution.
The evo MODEL REQUIRES millions/billions years.....thus your suppoitions....all are pulled from thin air
 
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Listen...as hard as your ears can...to facts. There are more facts supporting evolution than facts supporting gravity. Pretty sure gravity is real. lol. no reason you cant still be looking for more. but your own the right track...use your brain.
 
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No. Pat Robertson is the smallest form of potato on the planet. He is a money grubbing little worm who has worked his stinky poo smelly fingers into the brains of every goofy brained religious nut in the country. God is gonna put a fist up his wrinkly rich butt soon. If you every wonder if you are the product of a hampster and dirt clod procreating, watch the 700club, if you agree then yeah those are your partents.
 
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Listen...as hard as your ears can...to facts. There are more facts supporting evolution than facts supporting gravity. Pretty sure gravity is real. lol. no reason you cant still be looking for more. but your own the right track...use your brain.
Bulldust. Evolution is a load of crap and believed by much of the world (which doesn't make it true).
 
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Do you think Pat Robertson is a Christian?
It's not my place to say, that's between him and God, but sometimes I wonder. Either way, he's a grumpy old codger and I wouldn't want to hang out with him.
 
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To know science is to just read and be a smart person. The Bible was written by the smartest people of their time...faith.
You think through what you should and keep on reading it all
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Tintin

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To know science is to just read and be a smart person. The Bible was written by the smartest people of their time...faith.
You think through what you should and keep on reading it all
everything
I do. I'm actually big on critical thinking.
 

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well... (and I want to say this nicely)... your age is listed as 75... high school would have been a while ago... any studies done in the last, say, 10 or 20 years?
As I mentioned, I have been working on a commentary for the past 11 years. Believe it or not, quite a lot of study went into it.

I accepted the Lordship of Jesus in 1968. I attended Golden Gate Baptist Theological Seminary in1970-71.

I did the lower division work toward my Liberal studies degree (required for a teaching credential) 1973-74

I completed my BA in liberal Studies in 1976-77. I did the coursework for my credential in 1978 and student teaching in 1979.

I taught in Christian education for over 20 years until forced to retire due to a skating accident

Please remember that the question I was responding to was where did I learn the material for my apologetic in Zoology class.
 
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Listen...as hard as your ears can...to facts. There are more facts supporting evolution than facts supporting gravity. Pretty sure gravity is real. lol. no reason you cant still be looking for more. but your own the right track...use your brain.
Listen...as hard as your ears can...to facts. There are more facts supporting evolution than facts supporting gravity
Exactly what you did. You ignore testimony in favor of a lie. You do not have facts. You only quote ignorant men that neither have facts or tthe ability to process information.

You have no evolution proof. You have nothing. All assumptions.
Investigate and get free from mens lies.

But the clue you need would be to ask yourself "why do we not have a single fossil in transition"?

No ,you have zero. Stop acting like you do
 
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Why do you think this is true?

Pulsars are a type of star that radiate a rhythmic pulse to a regular beat. It was originally believed to be the product of "little green men" in origin because its discoverer didn't think that such a thing could be natural. Klerksdorp spheres were also originally thought to be man-made, but later turned out to be wholly natural.

Besides, this "design inference" is clearly not a standard that you actually hold. Rocks, sand, tides, and much of the rest of nature doesn't look "designed", but you believe that it was. It's not that things look designed, but rather your presupposition that they were that drives your belief.
Your little green men could possibly visit earth and deduce that cow patty was never made by a cow. "lookey,lookey,ewey goowy,where did it come from?"

I will stick to God's word. He said it (creation) testifies of a creator.
Should not have to tell you that.
 
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To know science is to just read and be a smart person. The Bible was written by the smartest people of their time...faith.
You think through what you should and keep on reading it all
everything
How smart were they exactly?

My 8 year old kid has a better grasp of how the earth, the sun and the moon work than the people who wrote the bible.

That's quite worrying when you think about it.
 
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seriouslyman

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Just check out all of Bill Nyes videos on youtube. Very informative.
 
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popeye

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How smart were they exactly?

My 8 year old kid has a better grasp of how the earth, the sun and the moon work than the people who wrote the bible.

That's quite worrying when you think about it.
God wrote it,so you might as well worship your kid since he is smarter than God.

But seriously;
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

Here we have it.
Evolution imagined,leading to the loss of their minds leading to homosexuality.

HMMMMM, it is before our eyes now. just like God said
 
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popeye

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You can believe evolution. It taked much more faith,but obviously the evolution adherants have massive faith to actually believe that imagined nonsense.

But do not take your made up lies to the schools and poison americas children. That will be judged heavily.
 
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There is no evidence of/for evolution.
The evo MODEL REQUIRES millions/billions years.....thus your suppoitions....all are pulled from thin air
You quoted what Starcrash, apparently an atheist, said to the effect that Leviticus 11:6 regarding rabbits is a huge error in the bible, inferring the bible is full of error.

Then you quoted me, a Christian. Apparently you can't tell that my point is that it is not an error.

Anyone who says there is no evidence of evolution has no understanding of evolution.
 
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popeye

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Just check out all of Bill Nyes videos on youtube. Very informative.
The earth is not old. That is pure junk.

That is where your teachers lead you. They START with imagination,continue with imagination,and end the same way.

You have been duped through the imagination of others.