Grace doesn't teach a Christian to desire to do that so then If a person has a DESIRE to live like that,are they saved?
Repentance?
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we are all individuals to our Saviour, and the different ways that we all pick and choose to live
our lives, He allows, but at some point in our lives, if we are called and elected and chosen,
He teaches us how to 'give-up' our own 'will' and how to follow Him and His ways:' this doesn't
happen to everyone in their 'life-time', thus all of the confusion' - study your Bible from the
front to the back, and all of your questions will be answered,..try and learn about the 2nd Resurrection...
Even Jesus said that divorce was acceptable in that situation because of the hardness of man's heart. Not because that's what the Lord demands.
Where did jesus say that?
Moses said it and Jesus corrected it
Mathew 19: 7-9
7 they say unto him, why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcment, and put her away?
8 he said unto them, Moses because the hardness of your heart suffered you to put away your wives but from the beginning it was not so. (Here is where Jesus corrects Moses) 9 and I say unto you, whosoever shall put away his wife except it be for fornication and shall marry another committeth adultery and whoso married her which is put away doth commit adultery.
It is called becoming lukewarm and making church life easier.
Remember a little leaven leavens the whole lump.
You see it all the time - the watering down of Biblical truth
and the righteousness required by God to make modern
Christian life more palatable.
Bums on seats is the bottom line !!!
The Greek word for "repent" is "metanoia" (noun) and "matanoeo" (verb) you see as defined in the Strongs #3340, 3341: to think differently or afterwards, reconsider. After thought, change of mind. Repentance basically means a "change of mind" and the context must determine what is involved in this change of mind. Where salvation is in view, repentance actually precedes saving faith in Christ and is not a totally separate act from faith. It is actually the same coin with two sides. Repentance is on one side (what you change your mind about) and faith in Christ is on the positive side, the new direction of this change of mind.
*Repentance and faith are two sides of the same experience of receiving Christ (Acts 20:21).
Many people misunderstand the term "repentance" to mean "turning from sin" as if this means sinless perfection. This is not the Biblical definition of repentance. In the Bible, the word "repent" means to "change your mind." The Bible also tells us that true repentance will result in a change of actions. Acts 26:20 declares, "I preached that they should repent and turn to God and prove their repentance by their deeds." This is the fruit of repentance (Matthew 3:8), not the essence of repentance (change of mind). I've heard certain people say, "if you want to be saved, repent of your sins, turn from your sins." If turning from your sins means to stop sinning, then people can only be saved if they stop sinning. And it is unlikely that anyone has ever been saved, since we don't know anyone who is sinless, without fault or defect, flawless, absolutely perfect 100% of the time.
I think you need to take your sunnies off.
A lot of churches tolerate divorce and remarriage and partnerships
well outside the Biblical teachings.
A great many mainstream churches no longer uphold and defend the
word of God as authorative and literal.
I was at a Lutheran wedding where the couple had chosen verses for
their ceremony - Ephesians 5:21-25 - to be read out.
So the pastor interrupts the ceremony and gives a little theological
treatise on his unbelief and how these scriptures like many others
(homosexuality?) were written a long time ago when people had very
old fashioned ideas on such subjects; and how we of today have moved on.
Tolerance of sins that would otherwise empty church buildings is very
evident in mainstream Christianity. Some churches aren't even all that
keen on repentance from sins - so passé.
Hypocrisy does rule.
Not sure why this is difficult: It is sin to continue in a gay marriage and it is sin to continue on in an adulterous marriage.
Of course God can and will forgive when we believe in Him, but that does not minimize or change that it is sin to continue sinning!
You are looking at the outside. It's understandable. You're human and the outside is all you see of someone. You judge by the outside, the actions of someone.
But the problem doesn't come from the outside actions. It comes from inside.
The sin happens before the outward action. Take murder for instance. It happens inwardly and then proceeds to the outside. BUT, it doesn't always proceed to the outside. Anger in my heart at you without cause is murder. And impure thoughts about someone other than your spouse is adultery. Using porn is adultery. Fantasizing about someone else is adultery. It doesn't proceed to the outside, but the sin has still been committed. A LOT more adultery goes on than we see. But God sees.
You may have never outwardly committed adultery and you may have never outwardly murdered, but can you say you are not a murderer?
And so, to condemn someone for adultery when you are a murderer is not the way to go. The way to go is to personally deal with the inside of your own cup first. To admit to your own murder. To be honest in your heart with God about what is in your own heart. In fact, you can't do anything else. You can just be honest with Him and look to Him to change your heart and renew your mind and the way it thinks and what it thinks. He will have to do something. All you can do is agree with Him that you are a murderer. YOU can't change your heart. He has to.
Thankyou Mailmandan
You make a good doctrinal point here
of which I am guilty in muddling repentance and its fruit
with the idea of contrition and Godly sorrow.
But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism,
he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from
the wrath to come?
Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:
Matthew 3:7-8
(BBE) Let your change of heart be seen in your works:
(ERV) Change your hearts! And show by the way you live that
you have changed.
(GNB) Do those things that will show that you have turned from your sins.
Contrition and being of a contrite spirit is different - more to do with
our daily confessing of our faults and wrongdoings - being sorrowful
and seeking forgiveness from God our Father and our Lord.
I need to think and study on this. Thankyou
You make a good doctrinal point here
of which I am guilty in muddling repentance and its fruit
with the idea of contrition and Godly sorrow.
But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism,
he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from
the wrath to come?
Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:
Matthew 3:7-8
(BBE) Let your change of heart be seen in your works:
(ERV) Change your hearts! And show by the way you live that
you have changed.
(GNB) Do those things that will show that you have turned from your sins.
Contrition and being of a contrite spirit is different - more to do with
our daily confessing of our faults and wrongdoings - being sorrowful
and seeking forgiveness from God our Father and our Lord.
I need to think and study on this. Thankyou
the devils believe and continue to sin and blaspehme our Saviour'; how are some different
from them if they proclaim Christ as their Saviour, yet continue in their 'old ways'???
from them if they proclaim Christ as their Saviour, yet continue in their 'old ways'???
In James 2:19, we see that the demons believe "mental assent" that "there is one God" but they do not believe/entrust their spiritual well being to Christ; have faith/reliance upon Christ for salvation. They do not believe on the Lord Jesus Christ (Acts 16:31) and are not saved. Their trust and reliance is in Satan, as demonstrated by their rebellion in heaven and continuous evil works, which is not repentance unto life (Acts 11:17-18). Continuing in your old ways is not the fruit of repentance.
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ezekiel 18:20-32, “The being who sins shall die. The son shall not bear the crookedness of the father, nor the father bear the crookedness of the son. The righteousness of the righteous is upon himself, and the wrongness of the wrong is upon himself. But the wrong, if he turns from all his sins which he has done, and he shall guard all My laws, and shall do right-ruling and righteousness, he shall certainly live, he shall not die. All the transgressions which he has done shall not be remembered against him – in his righteousness that he has done, he shall live. Have I any pleasure in the death of the wrong?” declares the Master יהוה[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]. “Is it not that he should turn from his ways, and live? But when a righteous one turns away from his righteousness and does unrighteousness, according to all the abominations that the wrong one has done, shall he live? All his righteousness which he has done shall not be remembered. For his trespass which he has committed, and for his sin which he has committed, for them he shall die. And you said, ‘The way of [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]is not right.’ Hear now, O house of Yisra’yl, is My way not right? Is it not your ways that are not right? When a righteous one turns away from his righteousness, and does unrighteousness, and he dies in it, it is because of his unrighteousness which he has done that he dies. And when the wrong turns away from the wrong which he has done, and he does right-ruling and righteousness, he keeps himself alive. Because he sees and turns away from all the transgressions which he has done, he shall certainly live, he shall not die. And the house of Yisra’yl have said, ‘The way of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]is not right.’ Are My ways not right, O house of Yisra’yl? Is it not your ways that are not right? Therefore I judge you, O house of Yisra’yl, every one according to his ways,” declares the Master [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]. “Repent, and turn back from all your transgressions, and let not crookedness be a stumbling-block to you. Cast away from you all the transgressions, by which you have transgressed, and make for yourselves a new heart and a new spirit. For why should you die, O house of Yisra’yl? For I have no pleasure in the death of one who dies,” declares the Master [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה. “So turn back and live!”[/FONT]