Replacement/Supersessionism Theology,Why it Matters

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You both are Wrong.! We must see the Grace of God in the old Mosaic laws of sacrifice for their sins, the O.T. saints looked to God's GRACE in the blood of the animal we know now, that it is the blood of Christ alone that saves ,they ,did NOT see Christ, but the Lamb killed for their sins. on the Jewish alter. That is O. T. GRACE.! Love to all, Hoffco
 
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God has always saved by GRACE. this is what Rom.8:19-30 ch9 and 11 teaches GRACE's selection and POWER saves. Love to all Hoffco
 

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[SUP]3 [/SUP]Then the Lord will go forth and fight against those nations, as [SUP][a][/SUP]when He fights on a day of battle. [SUP]4 [/SUP]In that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, which is in front of Jerusalem on the east; and the Mount of Olives will be split in its middle from east to west by a very large valley, so that half of the mountain will move toward the north and the other half toward the south. [SUP]5 [/SUP]You will flee by the valley of My mountains, for the valley of the mountains will reach to Azel; yes, you will flee just as you fled before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Then the Lord, my God, will come, and all the holy ones with [SUP][b][/SUP]Him!
This is an apocalyptic vision of the going forth of the Kingly Rule of God after Pentecost.
 
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I've never been a fan of shotgunning a collection of scattered verses. It's usually signaled to me that the person doing it hasn't taken the time to properly understand the verses and consider things like authorial intent. Further, it's usually been indicative of someone who is hoping that by dumping a torrent of verses they think support their point of view, that the other person will simply give up, and not take the time to address each one properly.

However, I'm prepared to go through each of those verses, discuss them at considerable length (for no other reason than it's really interesting), consider their context within the books, their context within their historical and cultural settings, consider their authors and the author's intended audience so I can understand the actually meaning of the text. Usually though, the person who data dumped some verses has no interest in such a thing.

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[/I]Sure, we can begin in the 39th chapter of Ezekiel, though it usually makes better since to understand a book by starting in the beginning. Ezekiel's main concern throughout the book is the apostasy of Judah specifically. The first 24 chapters deal with the apostasy of Israel, judgement coming on Israel, the fall of Jerusalem, and the subsequent exile to Babylon - actual, ancient Babylon. Ezekiel himself opens the book identifying his location as being by the River Chebar, in Babylon. He covers a litany of things Judah had done to bring about their own demise and exile.

Given the amount of attention Ezekiel devotes to ancient Israel's rebellion against Yahweh, and given that the text explicit states numerous times that Ezekiel is addressing the exiles living in [actual] Babylon, I think it's fair to say that Ezekiel's primary concern is identifying the proximate causes and reasons for the Babylonian exile followed by a message of hope to those people living in Babylon.

Eze 24-32ish contains various oracles against various nations. But the collection of oracles against the nations isn't random or about something that has nothing to do with Ezekiel's primary concern. These were the immediate nations surrounding ancient Israel who gloated in Judah's demise. Judah had, at the time, been a client state of Babylon, basically paying tribute to keep the Babylonians away. Nebuchadnezzar had launched an unsuccessful campaign against Egypt resulting in a weakening of the Babylonian army with a major defeat at the Battle of Charchemish. The various Canaanite and Phonetician states rebelled against Babylonian dominance - Judah was no different; they too thought it would be a good chance to separate themselves from Babylon. Jehoiakin attempted to ally himself with Egypt - the apparent winners as of late (2 Kings 23-24). But Babylon came back, they beat Jehoaikin in 597 who surrendered and became a client king to Babylon for a few years. Jehoiakin attempted to rebel against Babylon and align himself with Egypt again, but the Egyptians themselves were defeated by the Babylonians...who then turned and destroyed Jerusalem, exiling the rest of the elite and leadership that Jehoiakin hadn't already exported to Babylon himself.

After the destruction of Jerusalem, Babylon then turned to Israel's neighbors...the same ones listed in Ezekiel who said that those nations would be destroyed. Babylon would lay siege to Tyre for 13 years and eventually subjugate the various kingdoms in the area. In Ezekiel, Babylon was God's instrument for executing judgment on Israel and Israel's other enemies, in much the same way Isaiah viewed Cyrus as God's instrument for executing God's plan for Israel's return.

The first 34 or so chapters deal with the judgment of ancient Israel (really, Judah, since Northern Israel was long gone) before Ezekiel turns his attention to restoration and hope. What would be strange is if at this point Ezekiel quit talking about the things he had been talking about, addressing the people and events he had been addressing, and started talking about things 3,000 years into the future. Luckily, he doesn't do that. Ezekiel's promise of hope and restoration for Israel, is a message of hope for the people who were living then and there with Ezekiel in Babylon. The Valley of Dry Bones in Eze 37 is about the restoration of a seemingly dead Israel...they were seemingly dead because they were living in world where they were in exile in the superpower of the day, Babylon.

Eze 39:27-29 is about this hope of restoration from the Babylonian exile. Ezekiel even records it:

"Then they will know that I am the LORD their God because I made them go into exile among the nations, and then gathered them again to their own land; and I will leave none of them there any longer."

Where is there? In Babylon. Where Ezekiel is. Where is audience is. Where they want to leave from. This isn't about leaving the United States or various other places for the modern state of Israel. This is about a particular people who had seen their homes literally destroyed, no doubt had seen some horrible forms of death at the hands of the Babylonians and were taken away as captives to Babylon. These are the people Ezekiel is talking about returning from exile and living again in Israel. They are the ones who still had the memory of their actual homes being in Israel.

I think it's a tough sell to say the verses you quoted are about anything other than what is determined by the context of Ezekiel himself. Ezekiel's hope of returning to Israel from exile is a message to a for the Jewish exiles living in Babylon.



I'm not sure the bible says we ought to politically support the modern state of Israel (which is what you indicated you mean by "support"). Support for Israel should be contingent of the behavior and values of the state itself. I seriously doubt the bible ever requires us to give blank check of support to anyone other than God. If [modern] Israel were to do something immoral, I doubt God requires us to support it, unless he's become accustomed to condoning immorality recently.




I've never been a fan of shotgunning a collection of scattered verses. It's usually signaled to me that the person doing it hasn't taken the time to properly understand the verses and consider things like authorial intent. Further, it's usually been indicative of someone who is hoping that by dumping a torrent of verses they think support their point of view, that the other person will simply give up, and not take the time to address each one properly.Quote

I was accused by another poster of using others words. Therefore I used the Bible verses to prove the point. I fully expect her to refute each and every verse.It wasnt posted to all posters but in response to her accusation.


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I think it's a tough sell to say the verses you quoted are about anything other than what is determined by the context of Ezekiel himself. Ezekiel's hope of returning to Israel from exile is a message to a for the Jewish exiles living in Babylon."


Not to be nasty but you could have skipped all if that and boiled it down to Babylon,I understand replacement theology hinges on that belief . Taken together with all the other verses it is clear the restoration of Israel is what is being spoken about. When the Bible talks about a nation born in a day who do you propose it is speaking of?

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I'm not sure the bible says we ought to politically support the modern state of Israel (which is what you indicated you mean by "support").

Yes,that is what I mean as support.You are correct.

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If [modern] Israel were to do something immoral....

Well they havent. And when it has been found a soldier or someone has acted immorally they are taken to court and punished the same way we do in America.They are a democracy are they not?

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I doubt God requires us to support it, unless he's become accustomed to condoning immorality recently. "

If Israel was doing something immoral that would be a different story.Yet that is up to God to deal with and discipline.Not us.America is doing immoral things right now.Abortion for instance.We still support America.
 
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We all miss stuff, especially on a thread this long ;). No worries, and thanks for the apology - warmly accepted :).

I have some more thoughts on Replacement Theology and other issues that tie into it, but they will have to wait, as I'm headed to a doctor's appointment with one of the children.

Grace and peace to you,
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Im sorry to hear that.Hope your little one is ok.Nothing worse then going to a doctor.My mother was a nurse and she hates doctors too. lol
 
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Thats because you are not intelligent enough to recognise that Zechariah constantly uses images (he writes apocalyptically), and he has explained this image in ch4. Olive trees (witnesses) are to be sent out by God north and south. Its simple really. Simply requires us to interpret Scripture b Scripture.

And it has happened. The witnesses erupted from Jerusalem after Pentecost.

You've probably not seen a woman carried in an ephah to Babylon either lol
So why bother saying God will come down and punish the gentile NATIONS (not nation) and when he did this, he would land on the mount and it will split into to.

If it is not going to happen?


sorry, Making an alegory of scripture because it does not fit my belief system is not the way I do things. Maybe you feel secure and safe doing this? But i do not, and will not.

When God says this is going to happen, it happens.
 
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Yep. That version of Zechariah 14:5 is corrupted. It's based on a Jewish tradition that was incorporated into the Masoretic Text.
ahh ok, And where do you get this from?

And why would jews say this? They do not even believe in Christ, so it would not do them any good..(you do realize they do not even consider daniel a work of God or part of Scripture do you not?
 
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This is an apocalyptic vision of the going forth of the Kingly Rule of God after Pentecost.
No. God does not work this way.

When he says something is going to happen, it happens.
 

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Where does the book of Joel say the Jews will stop rejecting Jesus as Messiah?
Well, we cant find the name Jesus in Joel, but from Joel 2, 18 till 4,21 it shows clear that the Lord God takes his Volk Israel back and will live in Zion (4,21) Apostel Paul quotet in Romans 10,13 Joel 3,5 and means the Lord Jesus. And in the following verses from 10,14 on Paul statet that Israel has no excuse for rejecting Jesus, but this means not (from Chapter 11 on) that God has reject his volk for ever. (11,1+2), but that he will finaly save his volk from Vers 25 till 32 And Paul closes with praising Gods unexploring ways (33-36)
 

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Quote "She wasn't just doing that. She wants to prove that believing that the Christian Church is the New Israel is wrong and instead of giving arguments from the Bible to prove us wrong.....



The Bible teaches the restoration of Israel...


Ezek 39:27-29 "When I have brought them back from the nations and have gathered them from the countries of their enemies, I will show myself holy through them in the sight of many nations." 28 "Then they will know that I am the LORD their God, for though I sent them into exile among the nations, I will gather them to their own land, not leaving any behind." 29 "I will no longer hide my face from them, for I will pour out my Spirit on the house of Israel, declares the Sovereign LORD."

Amos 9:14-15-14 I will bring back my exiled people Israel; they will rebuild the ruined cities and live in them. They will plant vineyards and drink their wine; they will make gardens and eat their fruit. 15 I will plant Israel in their own land, never again to be uprooted from the land I have given them, says the LORD your God."

Jer 30:2 "This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: 'Write in a book all the words I have spoken to you. 3 The days are coming,' declares the LORD, 'when I will bring my people Israel and Judah back from captivity and restore them to the land I gave their forefathers to possess,' says the LORD."

Jer 31:10 "Hear the word of the LORD, O nations; proclaim it in distant coastlands: 'He who scattered Israel will gather them and will watch over his flock like a shepherd."

Jer 33:7 "I will bring Judah and Israel back from captivity and will rebuild them as they were before."

Ezek 37:21-27 ....."I will take the Israelites out of the nations where they have gone. I will gather them from all around and bring them back into their own land. 22 I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel. There will be one king over all of them and they will never again be two nations or be divided into two kingdoms."

Ezek 39:28-not leaving any behind.

Isaiah 11:11-12 NIV - "In that day the Lord will reach out his hand a second time to reclaim the remnant that is left of his people from Assyria, from Lower Egypt, from Upper Egypt, from Cush, from Elam, from Babylonia, from Hamath and from the islands of the sea. He will raise a banner for the nations and gather the exiles of Israel; he will assemble the scattered people of Judah from the four quarters of the earth."


Jeremiah 32:44 NIV - "Fields will be bought for silver, and deeds will be signed, sealed and witnessed in the territory of Benjamin, in the villages around Jerusalem, in the towns of Judah and in the towns of the hill country, of the western foothills and of the Negev, because I will restore their fortunes, declares the LORD."

Isaiah 66:8 NIV - "Who has ever heard of such a thing? Who has ever seen such things? Can a country be born in a day or a nation be brought forth in a moment? Yet no sooner is Zion in labour than she gives birth to her children."

Isaiah 43:5-6,21 - "Do not be afraid, for I am with you; I will bring your children from the east and gather you from the west. I will say to the north, `Give them up!' and to the south, `Do not hold them back.' Bring my sons from afar and my daughters from the ends of the earth..."

Zephaniah 3:8-10 KJV - "For then will I turn to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of the LORD, to serve him with one consent. From beyond the rivers of Ethiopia my suppliants, [even] the daughter of my dispersed, shall bring mine offering".

Isaiah 26:6 NIV - "In days to come Jacob will take root, Israel will bud and blossom and fill all the world with fruit."

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hen all these blessings and curses I have set before you come on you and you take them to heart wherever the Lord your God disperses you among the nations,2 and when you and your children return to the Lord your God and obey him with all your heart and with all your soul according to everything I command you today,3 then the Lord your God will restore your fortunes[a] and have compassion on you and gather you again from all the nations where he scattered you.4 Even if you have been banished to the most distant land under the heavens, from there the Lord your God will gather you and bring you back.5 He will bring you to the land that belonged to your ancestors, and you will take possession of it. He will make you more prosperous and numerous than your ancestors.6 The Lord your God will circumcise your hearts and the hearts of your descendants, so that you may love him with all your heart and with all your soul, and live.

Ezekiel 36-This is what the Sovereign Lord says: The enemy said of you, “Aha! The ancient heights have become our possession.”’3 Therefore prophesy and say, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: Because they ravaged and crushed you from every side so that you became the possession of the rest of the nations and the object of people’s malicious talk and slander, 4 therefore, mountains of Israel, hear the word of the SovereignLord: This is what the Sovereign Lord says to the mountains and hills, to the ravines and valleys, to the desolate ruins and the deserted towns that have been plundered and ridiculed by the rest of the nations around you— 5 this is what the Sovereign Lord says: In my burning zeal I have spoken against the rest of the nations, and against all Edom, for with glee and with malice in their hearts they made my land their own possession so that they might plunder its pastureland.’ 6 Therefore prophesy concerning the land of Israel and say to the mountains and hills, to the ravines and valleys: ‘This is what the SovereignLord says: I speak in my jealous wrath because you have suffered the scorn of the nations. 7 Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord says: I swear with uplifted hand that the nations around you will also suffer scorn.

‘But you, mountains of Israel, will produce branches and fruit for my people Israel, for they will soon come home. 9 I am concerned for you and will look on you with favor; you will be plowed and sown, 10 and I will cause many people to live on you—yes, all of Israel. The towns will be inhabited and the ruins rebuilt.11 I will increase the number of people and animals living on you, and they will be fruitful and become numerous. I will settle people on you as in the past and will make you prosper more than before. Then you will know that I am theLord. 12 I will cause people, my people Israel, to live on you. They will possess you, and you will be their inheritance; you will never again deprive them of their children.

“‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: Because some say to you, “You devour people and deprive your nation of its children,” 14 therefore you will no longer devour people or make your nation childless, declares the SovereignLord. 15 No longer will I make you hear the taunts of the nations, and no longer will you suffer the scorn of the peoples or cause your nation to fall, declares the Sovereign Lord.’”

“This is what the Sovereign Lord says: Once again I will yield to Israel’s pleaand do this for them: I will make their people as numerous as sheep, 38 as numerous as the flocks for offerings at Jerusalem during her appointed festivals. So will the ruined cities be filled with flocks of people. Then they will know that I am the Lord.”

Zep 3:14 Be glad and rejoice with all your heart,
Daughter Jerusalem!
15 The Lord has taken away your punishment,
he has turned back your enemy.
The Lord, the King of Israel, is with you;
never again will you fear any harm.
At that time I will deal
with all who oppressed you.
I will rescue the lame;
I will gather the exiles.
I will give them praise and honor
in every land where they have suffered shame.
20 At that time I will gather you;
at that time I will bring you home.
I will give you honor and praise
among all the peoples of the earth
when I restore your fortunes[a]
before your very eyes,”
says the Lord.

The promise Israel will continue...

"Thus says the LORD, Who gives the sun for light by day, And the fixed order of the moon and the stars for light by night, Who stirs up the sea so that its waves roar; The LORD of hosts is His name: "If this fixed order departs From before Me," declares the LORD, "Then the offspring of Israel also shall cease From being a nation before Me forever." Thus says the LORD, "If the heavens above can be measured, And the foundations of the earth searched out below, Then I will also cast off all the offspring of Israel For all that they have done," declares the LORD" (Jer. 31:35-37).

The NT...

Matthew 23:37-39 “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing. 38 Look, your house is left to you desolate. 39 For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.’

Luke 21-They will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

Acts 1-When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

Romans 11 as I have posted before,for the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable (Rom. 11:29).

How can we as Christians trust the promises of God,which He said were irrevocable,if He doesnt keep His promise to Israel? Also the NT never uses the term Israel for anyone other than ethnic Jews.

Some examples...Acts 3-
When Peter saw this, he said to them: “Fellow Israelites, why does this surprise you?

Acts 4-Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel

Acts 5-God exalted him to his own right hand as Prince and Savior that he might bring Israel to repentance and forgive their sins.

Israel and the church are always kept separate.

There, you have only Bible verses only to answer you.No other words but Gods as you have asked for.






Not leaving ANY behind?

So you are saying that anyone who has Israelite blood in his veins anywhere in the world is going to be gathered back to Israel? The mind boggles. Not only the thirty million or so known Jews in usa, but all the hundreds of millions unknown to us (probably including me) in Europe and the Americas who have some remnant of Israelite blood in our veins. I can see why the Arabs are worried lol. They will be far outnumbered.

Do you REALLY believe that's what it means. There will be a long wait lol
 
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Well, we cant find the name Jesus in Joel, but from Joel 2, 18 till 4,21 it shows clear that the Lord God takes his Volk Israel back and will live in Zion (4,21) Apostel Paul quotet in Romans 10,13 Joel 3,5 and means the Lord Jesus. And in the following verses from 10,14 on Paul statet that Israel has no excuse for rejecting Jesus, but this means not (from Chapter 11 on) that God has reject his volk for ever. (11,1+2), but that he will finaly save his volk from Vers 25 till 32 And Paul closes with praising Gods unexploring ways (33-36)
I see what you're saying. In my opinion that was when Jesus came.
 
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Not leaving ANY behind?

So you are saying that anyone who has Israelite blood in his veins anywhere in the world is going to be gathered back to Israel? The mind boggles. Not only the thirty million or so known Jews in usa, but all the hundreds of millions unknown to us (probably including me) in Europe and the Americas who have some remnant of Israelite blood in our veins. I can see why the Arabs are worried lol. They will be far outnumbered.

Do you REALLY believe that's what it means. There will be a long wait lol
What a good point... I think I have a little Jewish blood in me too.
 
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ahh ok, And where do you get this from?

And why would jews say this? They do not even believe in Christ, so it would not do them any good..(you do realize they do not even consider daniel a work of God or part of Scripture do you not? [/B]
Was that you or someone else to whom I said search internet for azal + yasul?
 
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Not leaving ANY behind?

So you are saying that anyone who has Israelite blood in his veins anywhere in the world is going to be gathered back to Israel? The mind boggles. Not only the thirty million or so known Jews in usa, but all the hundreds of millions unknown to us (probably including me) in Europe and the Americas who have some remnant of Israelite blood in our veins. I can see why the Arabs are worried lol. They will be far outnumbered.

Do you REALLY believe that's what it means. There will be a long wait lol
Nope,Im not saying that. Bible is.Take it up with Him.And yes Arabs ought to be worried,those that arent believers in Christ.
 

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Nope,Im not saying that. Bible is.Take it up with Him.And yes Arabs ought to be worried,those that arent believers in Christ.
But that's the point the Bible isn't saying anything so absurd. That is just your wrong interpretation (tossed out, not proved lol).

what Ezekiel 39.28 ACTUALLY says is, 'I will leave none of them any more there'. Who is He talking about? The 3,023 + the 832 + the 745 of Jer 52.28 ff. Well I have good news for you. they went back after the exile :) So you can stop worrying :)
 
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true Israel is a blood line of faith, not of flesh and blood . The Spirit quickens, the flesh profits nothing. Jew and gentile all have to be born again of the Spirit of God to be a child of God. All those who are ,are Gods inheritance.Jesus is not ashamed to call us his bretheren. Remember too that thousands of Jews accepted Jesus as messiah, and still are. Remember also that God isn't blinding their eyes or stoping their ears, it is sin that does this. And it wont stop until they say, blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. Scripture says Jew and gentile beleivers shall be saved then all Israel shall be saved. But many will be killed.We should take heed to the Spirit within us, for if God spared not the natural branches that sinned, but cast them forth, He wont spare the wild branches that were grafted in by faith, if they continue in sin and disbelief.
 

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I see what you're saying. In my opinion that was when Jesus came.
But this could not be happend in the past when Jesus came, because then it would make no sense what Paul wrote in Romans 11, 25-27. That will be a future event. Present Israel reject Jesus Christ and are enemys for the purpose that we as gentiles can come to the Lord.(V.28) They are still loved from God because of Abraham, Jacob and Isaac (fathers in V. 29). But in future they will turn to christ. (V.26+27)
 
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The BIBLE is clear: "GOD chose the Least among nations"..... the tribes of Israel were nomadic..wandering, no stakes put down...tent dwellers, etc. Even the 1st true temple of GOD was a tent that could be transported. IT amazes me how GOD can use the least important folk, if you go by this world's standards, to make a spiritual victory.
 
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But this could not be happend in the past when Jesus came, because then it would make no sense what Paul wrote in Romans 11, 25-27. That will be a future event. Present Israel reject Jesus Christ and are enemys for the purpose that we as gentiles can come to the Lord.(V.28) They are still loved from God because of Abraham, Jacob and Isaac (fathers in V. 29). But in future they will turn to christ. (V.26+27)
Yes, but when did the deliverer come out of Sion?
 
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But that's the point the Bible isn't saying anything so absurd. That is just your wrong interpretation (tossed out, not proved lol).

what Ezekiel 39.28 ACTUALLY says is, 'I will leave none of them any more there'. Who is He talking about? The 3,023 + the 832 + the 745 of Jer 52.28 ff. Well I have good news for you. they went back after the exile :) So you can stop worrying :)
[SUP]21 [/SUP]“I will set My glory among the nations; all the nations shall see My judgment which I have executed, and My hand which I have laid on them. [SUP]22 [/SUP]So the house of Israel shall know that I am the Lord their God from that day forward. [SUP]23 [/SUP]The Gentiles shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity; because they were unfaithful to Me, therefore I hid My face from them. I gave them into the hand of their enemies, and they all fell by the sword. [SUP]24 [/SUP]According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions I have dealt with them, and hidden My face from them.”’

[SUP]25 [/SUP]“Therefore thus says the Lord God: ‘Now I will bring back the captives of Jacob, and have mercy on the whole house of Israel; and I will be jealous for My holy name— [SUP]26 [/SUP]after they have borne their shame, and all their unfaithfulness in which they were unfaithful to Me, when they dwelt safely in their own land and no one made them afraid. [SUP]27 [/SUP]When I have brought them back from the peoples and gathered them out of their enemies’ lands, and I am hallowed in them in the sight of many nations, [SUP]28 [/SUP]then they shall know that I am the Lord their God, who sent them into captivity among the nations, but also brought them back to their land, and left none of them captive any longer. [SUP]29 [/SUP]And I will not hide My face from them anymore; for I shall have poured out My Spirit on the house of Israel,’ says the Lord God.”



we must read different bibles. None of the things in bold has occured yet..