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Replacement theology? Yes or No.
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Christ sacrifice was a once and for all sacrifice yes ?
He destroyed the Jewish Temple in 70 AD yes ?
So why do you all look forward to the re-instatement of animal sacrifices and a rebuilt physical temple ?
If it was an abomination to God then It is still an abomination now, it makes of none effect the cross work of Christ
He destroyed the Jewish Temple in 70 AD yes ?
So why do you all look forward to the re-instatement of animal sacrifices and a rebuilt physical temple ?
If it was an abomination to God then It is still an abomination now, it makes of none effect the cross work of Christ
Right, which is why I figured whatever you were using had a hiccup lol. I use Grid 3 and it will sometimes misprint what I want it to say kinda like that.I thought you was joking because it was blank, that is why I laughed
I may be wrong, but I think everyone else besides HeIsHere knows there's going to be a Second Coming. I think the others you mentioned just believe that Jesus is returning to collect his believers to take them straight to Heaven and punish everyone else on the earth and that it's immediately over after that.
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And there is me who believes in the second coming of Christ but that the Kingdom will be on earth - that no one is going to be taken to an other worldly place called Heaven
If your understanding of those chapters go against the rest of scripture then I suggest your understanding of it is wrong
I suggest you read Revelation 21 & 22. They mention that there will be no temple in the New Jerusalem/Heaven. It also says that there will be no more sun or moon. God/Jesus is the light of Heaven and the temple in Heaven. Heaven isn't going to resemble the earth as we know it. It will pass away, like God/Jesus said it would, especially in 2 Peter 3:10.
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That's why I directed you to Revelation, chapters 21 and 22.
There is another "age to come" like the Bible says on earth. That's the Millennial Kingdom period in Revelation 20. Once that 1,000 years are over, all are judged and believers are sent to the permanent state of Heaven.
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In the New Testament there are two words used for temple in the Greek.
hieron - which is a physical building, temple of Jerusalem
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naos -
1) used of the temple at Jerusalem, but only of the sacred edifice
2) used in the epistles and in the book of Revelation to designate the body of Christ, the Church which is the holy of holies where God now dwells
Not distinguishing between the two is the cause of much error
hieron - which is a physical building, temple of Jerusalem
and:
naos -
1) used of the temple at Jerusalem, but only of the sacred edifice
2) used in the epistles and in the book of Revelation to designate the body of Christ, the Church which is the holy of holies where God now dwells
Not distinguishing between the two is the cause of much error
Hieron usually refers to the entire temple complex, including courts and surrounding structures, while naos refers to the sanctuary proper, the dwelling place of God.
Because of that distinction, New Testament writers can use naos metaphorically for Christ's body (John 2:21), the individual believer (1 Cor. 6:19), and the Church (1 Cor. 3:16-17; Eph. 2:21).
However, naos is not exclusively symbolic.
It is also used of the literal sanctuary in Jerusalem and the heavenly temple in Revelation.
So the key is not to assume that every occurrence of "temple" means the same thing.
The context must determine whether the author is speaking of the temple complex (hieron), the sanctuary (naos), the Church, Christ's body, or a heavenly reality.
That distinction can indeed prevent a great deal of interpretive error.
that is a common misunderstanding of 2 Peter, just like after the flood there was a new world - a new constitution, then also is there gong to be a new order of thing, but the world will stand forever. The word translated elements is elsewhere translated
principles - which might of been a better word to use.
Here's what my research and A.I. Assistant concludes:
1. The Hebrew Words Used for Temple in Ezekiel 40–48
- Ezekiel 40–48 was originally written in Hebrew, not Greek.
- Three important Hebrew words appear in these chapters:
- בַּיִת (Bayit, Strong's H1004): House; can refer to God's house or temple.
- הֵיכָל (Heikal, Strong's H1964): Temple, palace, or sanctuary building.
- מִקְדָּשׁ (Miqdash, Strong's H4720): Sanctuary; a holy or consecrated place.
- These words have overlapping meanings, but their precise meaning depends on context.
- Ezekiel 40:5: Describes a wall surrounding the house, which is being measured. The Hebrew word translated "house" is bayit.
- Ezekiel 41:1–4: Describes the temple's entrance, inner room, and most holy place, along with architectural measurements.
- Ezekiel 43:7: God identifies the place of His throne and the place of the soles of His feet as the place where He will dwell among the children of Israel forever.
- Ezekiel 43:21 and 45:19: Describe sacrificial and priestly activities associated with the sanctuary.
- Conclusion: The Hebrew vocabulary in Ezekiel 40–48 describes a temple complex, its sanctuary, and its associated religious functions. The Hebrew words themselves do not mean "the Church" or automatically establish that the temple is symbolic.
2. The Greek Word Hieron (ἱερόν)
- Strong's G2411
- Generally refers to the temple complex as a whole, including its courts, buildings, and surrounding areas.
- It is commonly used in the New Testament when referring to the Jerusalem temple and its broader precincts.
- Its emphasis is generally on the larger temple complex rather than exclusively on the inner sanctuary.
- Important: Hieron does not inherently mean that a temple must be physical in every context. Its meaning depends on how it is used.
3. The Greek Word Naos (ναός)
- Strong's G3485
- Generally refers to the temple proper, particularly the sanctuary itself.
- In the Jerusalem temple, it distinguishes the sacred building from the larger surrounding complex.
- The New Testament uses naos both for temples described as places or structures and metaphorically for God's dwelling among His people.
- Important: Naos does not exclusively mean the Church or the body of Christ. Its meaning depends on context.
- 1 Corinthians 3:16–17: Believers collectively are described as God's temple, and God's Spirit dwells among them.
- 1 Corinthians 6:19: The believer's body is described as a temple of the Holy Spirit.
- 2 Corinthians 6:16: Paul describes believers as the temple of the living God.
- Ephesians 2:21–22: Believers are joined together into a holy temple and a dwelling place for God through the Spirit.
- These passages establish that the New Testament uses naos metaphorically to describe God's presence among His people.
- However, this does not mean every reference to a temple in Scripture must refer to the Church.
- Revelation 11:1–2: John is told to measure the temple of God, the altar, and those who worship there, while leaving out the outer court.
- Revelation 11:19: John sees the temple of God opened in heaven and the ark of God's covenant within it.
- Revelation 15:5–6: The temple of the tabernacle of the testimony in heaven is opened, and seven angels come out.
- Revelation 16:1: A voice comes out of the temple, directing the angels to pour out God's judgments.
- Revelation 21:22: John says that he sees no temple in the New Jerusalem because the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple.
- These passages demonstrate that naos is not restricted to the metaphorical description of the Church.
- Its use does not, by itself, determine whether a particular passage describes a physical sanctuary, a heavenly reality, or a symbolic vision.
6. What Ezekiel 40–48 Actually Describes
- A temple complex with measured walls and gates.
- An inner sanctuary and most holy place.
- Chambers and designated areas for priests.
- Priestly duties and sacrificial offerings.
- Regulations concerning the sanctuary.
- God's glory returning to the house.
- The relationship between the temple, the land, and the children of Israel.
- The division of the land among the tribes of Israel.
- Ezekiel 43:7: God's stated intention to dwell among the children of Israel forever.
Conclusion: Ezekiel's prophecy must be examined in its own context. Its detailed descriptions must be accounted for when determining whether the vision concerns a future physical temple, a symbolic temple, or a combination of literal and symbolic elements.
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When the New Jerusalem comes down from Heaven, it will replace the earth, even if it sits in its place.
The reason we know that 2 Peter 3:10 isn't talking about a symbolic destruction of the earth is because it actually says that the elements themselves will be burned up. Not so in the case of Noah.
The Millennial Kingdom will be the LAST "age to come" on the earth before it is completely destroyed because sin lived on it. God, in all His glory, isn't capable of living on an earth that once contained sin when He chooses to live with man forever.
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Here is why the use of the term "element" is not used metaphorically in 2 Peter 3:10:
In the New Testament:
- 2 Peter 3:10 – "the elements will be dissolved by intense heat"
- 2 Peter 3:12 – "the elements will be dissolved by the heat"
In the Septuagint (LXX):
- Wisdom of Solomon 7:17 – "I understood that it was through the stoicheion that the world was ordered" (referring to the classical elements)
- Wisdom of Solomon 19:18 – "You made them subject to the stoicheia of the world"
- 4 Maccabees 12:13 – uses stoicheion for the physical elements
Important nuance: Even among those who read 2 Peter 3:10 physically, there's a split on what exactly "elements" denotes. Thayer's lexicon lists two physical options: (1) "the elements from which all things have come, the material causes of the universe" (i.e., the four classical elements), or (2) "the heavenly bodies, either as parts of the heavens or because in them the elements of man, life and destiny were supposed to reside" (i.e., stars/planets). A Biblical Hermeneutics Stack Exchange answer notes that "the destruction of the stars would fit naturally in the usual imagery of 'the day of the Lord,'" and that it's unclear whether Peter's audience would have conceived of water and air being "melted with intense heat."
So the short answer: 2 Peter 3:10, 12 are the only NT passages where stoicheion is used in a non-metaphorical, physical sense, and the LXX passages in Wisdom and 4 Maccabees confirm that this physical meaning was well-established in Jewish-Greek usage before Peter wrote.
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