Replacement theology? Yes or No.

[HeIsHere]

Not every jew.
Only the shouting crowd, the Pharisees, the Judahs....
Mary, peter, josaph.... didn't put Jesus on cross. Peter was weak, but he repented.

Please be accurate with you assumptions and reasoning, if capable.

Because Darby Dispensationalism is so rooted in certain events coming to pass presently, and aside from one sign they always harp on, which is not found in the words of Christ Jesus, I predict it can only last about another 10 years at most.

Let see, how many years of speculation has the "ekklesia" endured, how many times has Christ been deemed a false prophet by people because of this futurist fake dispensational doctrine?

One time is too many.
Now if we do have a nuclear war, we is seeming more probable, that will certainly end this system.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

I predict it can only last about another 10 years at most.

The poster is about to be very disappointed.

how many times has Christ been deemed a false prophet by people because of this futurist fake dispensational doctrine?

Just utter nonsense. No one here has said anything like what the poster is saying. smh

 

[Churchgoer]

The whole chapter? Or certain verses?

Yes, the whole chapter.

The best to understand scripture is at least read the whole chapter, understand the context.

Enjoy reading.

 

[Lovette]

I would wager that you never knew that this verse existed.

Isa 14:13
For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

Yes I know, his throne is set in Permagos, Rev. 2:12-13.

“And to the angel of the church in Pergamos ... I know your works, and where you dwell, where Satan’s throne is. And you hold fast to My name, and did not deny My faith even in the days in which Antipas was My faithful martyr, who was killed among you, where Satan dwells."

 

[cv5]

Christ is reigning right now, the Old Covenant Age has been consummated.

This is the real travesty of Darby Dispensationalism you deny Him His rightful place as Victor, King, Lord and Reigning in the spiritual realm, which is just as real as the physical ..rather we still read this nonsense about Satan running the show when Christ Jesus clearly defeated him.

Yea, like I said, you offer no sound exegetical treatments because......you don't have any.

 

[HeIsHere]

Yea, like I said, you offer no sound exegetical treatments because......you don't have any.

I notice how you avoid the posts which dismantle your fig tree speculation. LOL

 

[cv5]

I notice how you avoid the posts which dismantle your fig tree speculation. LOL

Did you want me to conduct a post content word count you versus me?

I expect the ratio to be minimum 100:1 but more likely 500:1 and quite possibly 1000:1

It ain't even close lady.
And the futurist dispensationalists are producing grand slams in consistent, copious, excessively glorious quantities.

It's as if we just cannot lose.

 

[HeIsHere]

Did you want me to conduct a post content word count you versus me?

I expect the ratio to be minimum 100:1 but more likely 500:1 and quite possibly 1000:1

It ain't even close lady.
And the futurist dispensationalists are producing grand slams in consistent, copious, excessively glorious quantities.

It's as if we just cannot lose.

The words of Jesus inform me that it is quality of the message not quantity/length.. He is my model not your wall of texts.

 

[cv5]

I notice how you avoid the posts which dismantle your fig tree speculation. LOL

Here let me help you:

Use the search tool and retrieve all that I have ever written about "fig tree".
And discover that what is being dismantled is preterism and historistism and their ilk.

 

[HeIsHere]

Here let me help you:

Use the search tool and retrieve all that I have ever written about "fig tree".
And discover that what is being dismantled is preterism and historistism and their ilk.

Luke 21:29-32

29 And he told them a parable: “Look at the fig tree, and all the trees. 30 As soon as they come out in leaf, you see for yourselves and know that the summer is already near. 31 So also, when you see these things taking place, you know that the kingdom of God is near. 32 Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all has taken place.

Notice how it’s not just the fig tree, but all the trees.

Are all trees now a prophetic symbol of the rebirth of a country?

 

[cv5]

Luke 21:29-32

29 And he told them a parable: “Look at the fig tree, and all the trees. 30 As soon as they come out in leaf, you see for yourselves and know that the summer is already near. 31 So also, when you see these things taking place, you know that the kingdom of God is near. 32 Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all has taken place.

Notice how it’s not just the fig tree, but all the trees.

Are all trees now a prophetic symbol of the rebirth of a country?

Lol. Yes of course.
Fig tree = Israel
All the trees = nations newly created post WW2-ish around the same time frame

So tell us, who are these other budding trees anyways? Of course you cannot answer. But I surely can, and very competently.

Yes, a massive wave of new nations was created immediately following World War II, driven primarily by the rapid collapse of European colonial empires (particularly the British, French, Dutch, and Belgian empires) and the redrawing of global borders.

Between 1945 and 1965, dozens of sovereign states emerged onto the world stage in what historians call the great era of decolonization. A few prominent examples include:
Asia: Jordan (1946), India and Pakistan (1947), Burma and Sri Lanka (1948), Indonesia (1949), Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia (1945–1954).
The Middle East & North Africa: Lebanon and Syria gained complete independence during the war years (1943–1946), Israel was established in 1948, Libya in 1951, and Tunisia and Morocco in 1956.
Sub-Saharan Africa: A massive surge occurred slightly later in the 1950s and 1960s (with Ghana in 1957, followed by over a dozen nations—often called the "Year of Africa"—in 1960 alone).

 

[HeIsHere]

Here let me help you:

Use the search tool and retrieve all that I have ever written about "fig tree".
And discover that what is being dismantled is preterism and historistism and their ilk.

Well eisegesis I have learned is a challenge, people just deduce rather than induce, very hard habit to break,

It is very evident that dispensationalism, like many other systems relies heavily on eisegesis and creating spurious connections.

Jesus does NOT say

“When you see the fig tree, know that Israel is about to blossom.”

He says......

“When you see its leaves, you know that summer is near. So also, when you see all these things, know that it is near.”

This is a straightforward timing analogy NOT an identity— example “When the leaves sprout, you know the season is about to change.”
As well, I already pointed out He even includes “all the trees” in Luke 21:29 which also disrupts this eisegesis.

 

[HeIsHere]

Lol. Yes of course.
Fig tree = Israel
All the trees = nations newly created post WW2-ish around the same time frame

So tell us, who are these other budding trees anyways? Of course you cannot answer. But I surely can, and very competently.

Yes, a massive wave of new nations was created immediately following World War II, driven primarily by the rapid collapse of European colonial empires (particularly the British, French, Dutch, and Belgian empires) and the redrawing of global borders.

Between 1945 and 1965, dozens of sovereign states emerged onto the world stage in what historians call the great era of decolonization. A few prominent examples include:
Asia: Jordan (1946), India and Pakistan (1947), Burma and Sri Lanka (1948), Indonesia (1949), Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia (1945–1954).
The Middle East & North Africa: Lebanon and Syria gained complete independence during the war years (1943–1946), Israel was established in 1948, Libya in 1951, and Tunisia and Morocco in 1956.
Sub-Saharan Africa: A massive surge occurred slightly later in the 1950s and 1960s (with Ghana in 1957, followed by over a dozen nations—often called the "Year of Africa"—in 1960 alone).

New nations have been created throughout all of history.

 

[Churchgoer]

New nations have been created throughout all of history.

I can see the other camp tend to over analyze, but missing the big picture.

When we look at an elephant , if we stick our nose to one leg, we see elephant is like a tree trunk.

Step a few feet away, so elephant legs will not kick us over. And look at the entire elephant

 

[cv5]

Well eisegesis I have learned is a challenge, people just deduce rather than induce, very hard habit to break,

It is very evident that dispensationalism, like many other systems relies heavily on eisegesis and creating spurious connections.

Jesus does NOT say

“When you see the fig tree, know that Israel is about to blossom.”

He says......

“When you see its leaves, you know that summer is near. So also, when you see all these things, know that it is near.”

This is a straightforward timing analogy NOT an identity— example “When the leaves sprout, you know the season is about to change.”
As well, I already pointed out He even includes “all the trees” in Luke 21:29 which also disrupts this eisegesis.

The typological account of Joseph and his brothers is also prophetically eisegisis?

Did you want me to repost all of that content and all of the other prophetic OT types posts that you have already been offered as well?

It's gonna be a long day....

 

[HeIsHere]

The typological account of Joseph and his brothers is also prophetically eisegisis?

Did you want me to repost all of that content and all of the other prophetic OT types posts that you have already been offered as well?

It's gonna be a long day....

Remember when we dealt with shifting the goal post, funny how I am seeing this again!

 

[cv5]

Remember when we dealt with shifting the goal post, funny how I am seeing this again!

Only in your addled mind.

The budding fig tree is typological and prophetic.
The account of Joseph and his brothers is typological and prophetic.

Both ultimately relate to the redemption of the Nation Israel and restoration of the Kingdom in the land of Israel.

The preterists have once again (as always) been exposed as biblically illiterate, obstinate, unteachable and in denial.

 

[HeIsHere]

Only in your addled mind.

The budding fig tree is typological and prophetic.
The account of Joseph and his brothers is typological and prophetic.

Both ultimately relate to the redemption of the Nation Israel and restoration of the Kingdom in the land of Israel.

The preterists have once again (as always) been exposed as biblically illiterate, obstinate, unteachable and in denial.

Your response to the words of Christ Jesus as recorded by Luke was once again to make a speculation about other nations after WW II,
Yes that surely is Bible literacy.. more like grasping at straws as the saying goes.

 

[Churchgoer]

Your response to the words of Christ Jesus as recorded by Luke was once again to make a speculation about other nations after WW II,
Yes that surely is Bible literacy.. more like grasping at straws as the saying goes.

They sure interpret everything to be about modern day Israel.
Isn't the Bible about Jesus, and His redemption? John 3 16.

 

[Beekeeper]

Yea, like I said, you offer no sound exegetical treatments because......you don't have any.

Actually there is no point, because you do not believe it.
All god's promises to Israel are fulfilled in Jesus and His bride,
but to you that is not acceptable.

Hebrews 8 plainly tells the fulfillment of God's new covenant with Israel, but you discard that because it involves the church.
Jesus plainly tells us the fulfillment of Malachi 4:5 in John the Baptist, but as it does not fit your futuristic delusions you discard that too.
Your long explanations are not worth reading, because they are the product of men who can not accept ant fulfillment the Bible has to offer.
Your 2 stage rapture, third temple, unique person Antichrist and spiritual restoration of modern Israel are all not going to happen, because all of these constructs are just the product of nonacceptance of Biblical fulfillment.

Modern Israel will finish without ceremony, and the sun moon and stars will continue to shine.