I might have understood what you were saying better if you had shown the verses below. You believe that at the sound of the 7th trumpet that God/Jesus takes over the kingdoms of the world? The only thing is that this happens towards the end of the tribulation period. If there are other verses you're looking at, let me know.
Revelation 11:15-19
15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,
17 We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.
19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.
No, you don't understand what I am saying.
Those verses are in the thick of the tribulation. NOT the beginning.
And most people misinterpret Rev 11.....and stupidity go mid-tribbers or post tribulation rapture. You are making the typical interpretive error, this due to ignorance.
And YES, Fruchtenbaum has it right. Among others such as myself.
Dr. Arnold Fruchtenbaum exegetes Revelation 11:15-19 through a strict classical dispensational lens. Because his framework is anchored in a pre-tribulation Rapture and the belief that the "Day of the Lord" (the Tribulation) begins with Christ taking the scroll in Revelation 5, he interprets the seventh trumpet as a major hinge point in the enforcement of God’s reclamation of the earth.
Here is how Fruchtenbaum explains this passage in light of those specific theological anchors:
1. The Scroll, the Seventh Trumpet, and the "Title Deed" (vv. 15 & 17)
For Fruchtenbaum, Revelation 5 is the legal turning point of history. When Christ takes the seven-sealed scroll, He is taking the "title deed to the earth." The breaking of the seals and the sounding of the trumpets are the progressive unrolling of that deed and the execution of the judgments required to evict Satan.
* The Telescopic Judgment: In Fruchtenbaum’s timeline, the seventh seal contains the seven trumpets, and the seventh trumpet contains the seven bowl judgments. Therefore, the sounding of the seventh trumpet in 11:15 is the release of the final, most severe series of judgments (the bowls) that will finish what began in chapter 5.
* Prophetic Certainty (Prolepsis): When the voices in heaven declare, "The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord" (v. 15) and "thou hast taken to thee thy great power" (v. 17), Fruchtenbaum notes that Christ has not physically returned to earth yet. However, because the seventh trumpet unleashes the final bowl judgments, the outcome is now absolutely guaranteed. It is a proleptic (anticipatory) declaration. The legal transfer of the title deed in Revelation 5 is now moving into its final phase of physical enforcement.
2. The 24 Elders and the Pre-Tribulation Rapture (v. 16)
Fruchtenbaum identifies the "four and twenty elders" sitting on thrones as the raptured Church.
* Observers, Not Participants: Because they are already seated on thrones, wearing crowns (indicating they have already passed through the Judgment Seat of Christ), and acting in a priestly/worshipping role in heaven, this proves the Church was removed from the earth before the Day of the Lord began.
* Rejoicing at the Climax: The elders fall on their faces here because the long-awaited climax of the Tribulation has arrived. They are watching from heaven as God transitions from the trumpet judgments into the final, rapid-fire bowl judgments that will culminate in the Second Coming—an event they will eventually participate in by returning with Christ.
3. The Timeline of Wrath and Rewards (v. 18)
Verse 18 provides a summary outline of the events that the seventh trumpet will ultimately accomplish by the end of the Tribulation. Fruchtenbaum breaks this verse down chronologically:
* "The nations were angry, and thy wrath is come": This points specifically to the final Campaign of Armageddon. The nations will gather in anger against God and Israel, bringing down the final crescendo of God's wrath (the Day of the Lord).
* "The time of the dead, that they should be judged": In Fruchtenbaum's eschatology, judgments are separated by time. He views this specifically as looking forward to the end of the Tribulation when Old Testament saints and Tribulation martyrs will be resurrected and judged/rewarded (Daniel 12).
* "Give reward unto thy servants": While the Church was rewarded at the Rapture, this marks the impending resurrection and rewarding of the Tribulation saints and Old Testament prophets at the Second Coming.
* "Destroy them which destroy the earth": A direct reference to the impending destruction of the Antichrist, the False Prophet, and their followers who have ravaged the earth throughout the Day of the Lord.
4. The Ark of the Covenant and Israel (v. 19)
As a Messianic Jewish scholar, Fruchtenbaum places heavy emphasis on God's covenant relationship with Israel. When the temple in heaven opens and the Ark of His Testament (Covenant) is seen, it holds specific theological weight:
* God's Faithfulness to Israel: The Ark is the ultimate symbol of God's unconditional covenants with Israel (the Abrahamic, Land, Davidic, and New Covenants). Its appearance here is a signal. The second half of the Tribulation (the "Great Tribulation" or "Time of Jacob's Trouble") is about to begin.
* Protection and Judgment: God is reminding heaven and earth that He remembers His promises to Israel. The violent weather phenomena (lightnings, thunderings, earthquake, great hail) symbolize the severity of the bowl judgments to come. These judgments will simultaneously punish the Gentile nations for their antisemitism and drive the Jewish remnant to national repentance, leading directly to the Second Coming of the Messiah.
