Replacement theology? Yes or No.

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Every time God acts on something definite, He marks it with Aleph-Tav.
The Hebrew word אֵת (eth) in Zechariah 12:10 is a very common grammatical marker.
It is used thousands of times throughout the Old Testament to identify a definite direct object.
The statement, "Every time God acts on something definite, He marks it with Aleph-Tav," is simply not true.
Hebrew writers use אֵת in countless ordinary sentences involving people, places, animals, objects, and actions that have nothing to do with messianic prophecy.
 
Isn't that what we've been doing for the last several pages? Showing how the prophetic books all show that God/Jesus reveals Himself to the House of Israel after a final repeat of history, when He comes in and cleans out the land and the people himself and pours out His Spirit on them one last time before His earthly kingdom is set up?

The Bible isn't written in a way that you can or have to prove anything from a couple of verses. You have to look at the whole big picture and use the entire Bible together to see how it unfolds. What's clear is that God/Jesus doesn't totally reveal himself to His original people until He returns and they look upon Him as the one whom they pierced and mourn over it.

What you have been doing for the last several pages is monkeying around with the scriptures.
"Monkeying" is a verb, so that is not name calling.
@cv5 is a linguist and will be able to clarify that one.
That gentleman BAFFOONS with the scriptures.
 
What you have been doing for the last several pages is monkeying around with the scriptures.
"Monkeying" is a verb, so that is not name calling.
@cv5 is a linguist and will be able to clarify that one.
That gentleman BAFFOONS with the scriptures.
I started addressing CV5 and his claims, but then he began using an AI to post, and now I understand why he won’t debate me. He doesn’t know what his AI has said, and he has no idea how to respond when faced with education. That’s why he resorts to insults instead of scripture.
 
You and your ai friend are entirely lost there unfortunately.
Neither of you could even understand God's blessing in the second temple restoration, which in the time of Zerubbabel was a time of hardship, yet a time when the people knew their God.
That is the only blessing there in this world my friend.

The new covenant for Israelites is the one taught in the book of Hebrews, involving:
Union with Christ: Hebrews 8:1 Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;
2 A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.
Equality in Christ: Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus
freedom from the Mosaic law: Hebrews 8:6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
The blessings of Abraham extended: Hebrews 2:16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.
Grafted into Abraham's spiritual family: Hebrews 11:8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went. 9 By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:
10 For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.

The peace given to the Hebrews under the new covenant is between God and man, not in this present world.

Hebrews 8:4 For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law:

I see you chose not to address the elephant in the room again. You'll never be able to explain this away, so your response is lacking.

The New Covenant for Israelites​

The New Covenant was originally spoken to Israel and Judah (Jeremiah 31:31; Ezekiel 36:26–28). For them it means:

  • Unconditional forgiveness — "I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more" (Jer. 31:34). This is no longer dependent on animal sacrifice or Israel's own obedience.
  • Internal transformation — God's law is written on the heart rather than on stone tablets (Jer. 31:33; Ezek. 36:27). Israel will be circumcised inwardly, not just outwardly.
  • Direct knowledge of God — "All of them, both small and great, will know me" (Jer. 31:34), removing the need for intercessory priests.
  • Regathering and restoration — Israel will be gathered back to the land, united as one nation under one king, and will dwell there forever (Ezek. 37:21–28).
  • A covenant of peace — an everlasting, unbreakable relationship that will not be broken as the Mosaic covenant was (Jer. 31:32).
 
What you have been doing for the last several pages is monkeying around with the scriptures.
"Monkeying" is a verb, so that is not name calling.
@cv5 is a linguist and will be able to clarify that one.
That gentleman BAFFOONS with the scriptures.

No, we've been sharing the same scriptures with you, but you've just chosen to ignore them, like you chose to ignore how and when the Israelites in the end times will come into the New Covenant and what it means for them when they do.

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I started addressing CV5 and his claims, but then he began using an AI to post, and now I understand why he won’t debate me. He doesn’t know what his AI has said, and he has no idea how to respond when faced with education. That’s why he resorts to insults instead of scripture.

The problem is that he has had to repeat himself over and over again like I have.

If you dug out the A.I. posts where he has used scripture continuously, you might have an argument to fight against.

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The problem is that he has had to repeat himself over and over again like I have.

If you dug out the A.I. posts where he has used scripture continuously, you might have an argument to fight against.

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My argument is with how you both are letting your bias AI, answer.
Your not teaching according to scripture.
Your teaching your system and expecting the scripture to fit.
AI dont know any better.
I have told you this before but your answer to that was, " I wouldnt use AI unless I agreed with it"
Thats not discernment, its an escape from the truth.
I have given historical facts that the dispensationalist movement is well known for not following scripture.
But you both ignored that completely.
I showed where the founders of your system didnt even teach what you guys are and still no response. Other than insults.
I will make it my mission to expose you both in this rodeo show you guys love to play.
Shall we begin?
 
My argument is with how you both are letting your bias AI, answer.
Your not teaching according to scripture.
Your teaching your system and expecting the scripture to fit.
AI dont know any better.
I have told you this before but your answer to that was, " I wouldnt use AI unless I agreed with it"
Thats not discernment, its an escape from the truth.
I have given historical facts that the dispensationalist movement is well known for not following scripture.
But you both ignored that completely.
I showed where the founders of your system didnt even teach what you guys are and still no response. Other than insults.
I will make it my mission to expose you both in this rodeo show you guys love to play.
Shall we begin?

Again, I ask you, why would anyone post anything from A.I. if it doesn't represent their view? They don't.

I'm not teaching a system. I'm teaching you scripture and it appears to be working for you since you wouldn't even consider anything from the Old Testament as anything other than a "shadow of things to come" instead of looking at it like you should have been all along, as prophecy. Keep up the good work.

There is no escape from the truth, it's all written right there in God's Word, including Luke 24:44. As cv5 would say, it really is the CT and RT's who aren't following the scripture and I think you're finally realizing that.

There is no founder of the system. Maybe you missed all of the posts I made showing how the earliest church believed in the Premillennialist view before the impact of Rome around 410 AD changed their view with Augustine Hippo. If you need me to dig that out for you again I will.

If you want to swipe at cv5's posts. Try to take a swing at this one https://christianchat.com/threads/replacement-theology-yes-or-no.222339/post-5837016.
 
I see you chose not to address the elephant in the room again. You'll never be able to explain this away, so your response is lacking.

The New Covenant for Israelites​

The New Covenant was originally spoken to Israel and Judah (Jeremiah 31:31; Ezekiel 36:26–28). For them it means:

  • Unconditional forgiveness — "I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more" (Jer. 31:34). This is no longer dependent on animal sacrifice or Israel's own obedience.
  • Internal transformation — God's law is written on the heart rather than on stone tablets (Jer. 31:33; Ezek. 36:27). Israel will be circumcised inwardly, not just outwardly.
  • Direct knowledge of God — "All of them, both small and great, will know me" (Jer. 31:34), removing the need for intercessory priests.
  • Regathering and restoration — Israel will be gathered back to the land, united as one nation under one king, and will dwell there forever (Ezek. 37:21–28).
  • A covenant of peace — an everlasting, unbreakable relationship that will not be broken as the Mosaic covenant was (Jer. 31:32).

The "elephant" is Jesus Christ.
He forgives sins, transforms hearts, gives direct knowledge of God, regathers and restores and gives everlasting peace.
The eternal restoration and the everlasting peace can not be in this present world, and all these eternal promises must be understood in light of the book of Hebrews.
 
The "elephant" is Jesus Christ.
He forgives sins, transforms hearts, gives direct knowledge of God, regathers and restores and gives everlasting peace.
The eternal restoration and the everlasting peace can not be in this present world, and all these eternal promises must be understood in light of the book of Hebrews.

Deflect all you want. It doesn't change what the Bible says about Israel.

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Again, I ask you, why would anyone post anything from A.I. if it doesn't represent their view? They don't.

I'm not teaching a system. I'm teaching you scripture and it appears to be working for you since you wouldn't even consider anything from the Old Testament as anything other than a "shadow of things to come" instead of looking at it like you should have been all along, as prophecy. Keep up the good work.

There is no escape from the truth, it's all written right there in God's Word, including Luke 24:44. As cv5 would say, it really is the CT and RT's who aren't following the scripture and I think you're finally realizing that.

There is no founder of the system. Maybe you missed all of the posts I made showing how the earliest church believed in the Premillennialist view before the impact of Rome around 410 AD changed their view with Augustine Hippo. If you need me to dig that out for you again I will.

If you want to swipe at cv5's posts. Try to take a swing at this one https://christianchat.com/threads/replacement-theology-yes-or-no.222339/post-5837016.
Dispensationalism is not scripture.
Dispensationalism was largely systematized by John Nelson Darby (1800-1882) among the Plymouth Brethren movement.
Darby taught that God administers history through distinct dispensations, maintained a strong distinction between Israel and the Church, and popularized a futurist reading of prophecy and a pre-tribulation rapture.
His views spread widely through the Scofield Reference Bible and later evangelical schools and ministries.
John Nelson Darby's system was influential, but its distinct Israel-Church separation is widely disputed on biblical grounds.
The most debated question, Does Scripture teach two covenant peoples of God, or one people of God made up of believing Jews and Gentiles? The New Testament teaches the latter, making the core of dispensationalism difficult to reconcile with Scripture.

If you want to swipe at cv5's posts. Try to take a swing at this one https://christianchat.com/threads/replacement-theology-yes-or-no.222339/post-5837016.

The biggest problem with this argument is not Jeremiah 31.
Jeremiah 31 really does say God will make the New Covenant with "the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah."
The problem is that Fruchtenbaum's distinction between covenant possessor and covenant participant is not found anywhere in the text.
It is a theological construct imposed upon the text.


Jeremiah 31 says who the covenant was promised to. Agreed.
But the New Testament repeatedly identifies believers as participants in that very covenant, not merely beneficiaries standing next to it. Jesus said, "This cup is the new testament in my blood" (Luke 22:20).
Paul told the Corinthians, a largely Gentile church, that God had made them "able ministers of the new testament" (2 Cor. 3:6).
The writer of Hebrews quotes Jeremiah 31 at length (Heb. 8:8-12) and applies its blessings to the believers he is addressing.
The New Testament nowhere pauses to say, "You receive the blessings, but you are not actually part of the covenant."

The argument from Ephesians 2 also cuts both ways.
Paul does not say Gentiles remain outsiders receiving borrowed blessings from Israel's covenant.
He says Christ "hath made both one" (Eph. 2:14).
He says Gentiles are now "fellow citizens" and members "of the household of God" (Eph. 2:19).
The emphasis is not on two covenant peoples sharing benefits.
The emphasis is on one new man in Christ.

Romans 11 likewise does not say what the teacher needs it to say.
The olive tree contains believing Jews and believing Gentiles.
Unbelieving Jews are broken off.
Believing Gentiles are grafted in.
The root supports all the branches.
But Paul never says, "Israel possesses the New Covenant while the Church merely participates in it."
In fact, Romans 11 undermines rigid distinctions because Jews and Gentiles exist together in the same olive tree.

The greatest weakness of the entire post is the repeated assumption that if national Israel still has a future in God's plan, then dispensationalism must be true.
That simply does not follow.
Many non-dispensational interpreters affirm a future large-scale turning of ethnic Israel to Christ based on Romans 11 while rejecting the dispensational division between Israel and the Church.
Romans 11 can support future mercy toward ethnic Israel without requiring two covenant peoples of God.

And then there is the attitude. "Your quaint little ideology is about to collapse around you."
That is not apostolic argumentation. That is triumphalism.
"The servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient." (2 Tim. 2:24)
"In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves." (2 Tim. 2:25)
"Let your speech be alway with grace." (Col. 4:6)
A teacher confident in Scripture does not need to announce that everyone's theology is collapsing.
He simply opens the text and makes his case.