Revelation
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He didn't so he was talking about returning in future. Your full preterism is a heresy.
So! "They" (who shall see the coming of the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven) being "all the tribes of the earth (who) mourn... who also is this generation!
Thanks for untangling it, again, one risks suffering double vision with all the twisting going ever on.
Using a birthing analogy, it's possible that the destruction of the temple is the first sign of his kingdom coming (which those standing would see), the water breaking, and then the beginning of the birth pains...since it isn't uncommon that they continue for two days (or two thousand years) and culminates in the aod being the 10cm benchmark which will authorize the bearing down
What do you mean why not? The world would have known if the second coming happened. It hasn't happened yet.
he thinks it’s all One answer and doesn’t see Jesus was asked two separate questions
“And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying,
Tell us, when shall these things be?( 1 question about Jerusalem’s impending destruction in ad 67-70)
and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?”( 2nd question regarding the end of the world and his second coming )
Matthew 24:2-3 KJV
alot of people miss how that begins and don’t understand the overlap in Jesus answer
It's not invisible according to the bible:
Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Mat 24:32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
Mat 24:33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
Mat 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
read all three accounts he answers both it just overlaps. Look at what Jesus is talking about when it starts
“And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple. And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be?
and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?”
Matthew 24:1-3 KJV
“And as he went out of the temple, one of his disciples saith unto him, Master, see what manner of stones and what buildings are here! And Jesus answering said unto him, Seest thou these great buildings? there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.”
Mark 13:1-2 KJV
he’s talking about the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple the siege of the Romans which happened in ad 67-70 fulfilling the prophecies about it
but they also ask about his return and the end of the world.
he answers both it’s just overlapping and the narrative breaks a couple times. It’s a lot clearer if we examine all three accounts Matthew mark and luke.
it’s a reference to the end of the Old Testament and also a reference to the end of the world when he returns.
but thats only My own view of anyone wishes to consider it.
He didn't answer "when". All he gave them were the signs of the Great Tribulation and the events afterward including the second coming.
He already knew what he was going to tell them. Their questions didn't change that.
That is so sad and lame, and also happens to be a lie.
That is kind of nutty, because the end of Revelation tells us about where we will be going (and where we don't want ourselves and others to go.)
If a pastor does not understand his Bible, then He should step down from His pulpit.
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Not only is this site packed with every flavor of Christianity under the sun, it's also inundated with antichristian liberals who make it their political purpose to perpetuate online argument...
Believe me when I tell you that I recognize and appreciate your intention here, but I've seen this a thousand times before... There's only one direction this thread is destined to go, and if you follow it, you'll wind up just as cynical and apathetic as most of the silent observers that have been sucked into this hole...
Therefore it is up to each one to sort the chaff from the wheat. At the same time you could say this is an excellent example of preserving the right to free speech (which is being seriously censored by the Left).
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Trust me... the more convincing you are, the more effective you become... the more beaten and badgered and outnumbered you will be.
"Remember, if they persecute you, they first persecuted Me..."
