Revolution in Iran

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Disagree. There is MASSIVE irrefutable evidence to support a Temple in Jerusalem. In fact a Temple and sanctuary MUST exist before the Second Coming can ever occur. Likewise the rapture and the nation Israel in the land of Israel.
Not only that, all prophecy must be fulfilled and there is no other way that it can be.

Thus saith the pharisees
 
Thus saith the pharisees

It is impossible to rebuild the temple, it would be a building nothing more.

It can never be holy, the veil was torn.

You also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through.
1 Peter 2:5

This is a bit dramatized but I found it interesting, maybe God will make it another EPIC FAIL!!!

- - - >Emperor Julian (the Apostate) pushed to rebuild the Jewish Temple on the Temple Mount to undermine Christian prophecy (Jesus' words that no stone would remain upon another after its 70 AD destruction).

He funded it, let Jews return to Jerusalem, and appointed Alypius of Antioch to oversee the work. As soon as foundations were cleared and laid, catastrophe struck: contemporary accounts describe a violent earthquake shaking the site, scattering stones and materials. Then terrifying balls of fire erupted from the ground (or foundations), bursting forth repeatedly, scorching and burning workers, making the area impossible to approach.

(Pagan historian Ammianus Marcellinus reported "horrible balls of fire... rendering the place inaccessible to the scorched and blasted workmen." Christian writers like Gregory of Nazianzus added flames issuing forth, consuming some like Sodom's fate.)

The project collapsed in days. Workers fled, the site was abandoned, and Julian's death soon after in Persia ensured it was never resumed.
 
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It is impossible to rebuild the temple, it would be a building nothing more.

It can never be holy, the veil was torn.

You also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through.
1 Peter 2:5

This is a bit dramatized but I found it interesting, maybe God will make it another EPIC FAIL!!!

- - - >Emperor Julian (the Apostate) pushed to rebuild the Jewish Temple on the Temple Mount to undermine Christian prophecy (Jesus' words that no stone would remain upon another after its 70 AD destruction).

He funded it, let Jews return to Jerusalem, and appointed Alypius of Antioch to oversee the work. As soon as foundations were cleared and laid, catastrophe struck: contemporary accounts describe a violent earthquake shaking the site, scattering stones and materials. Then terrifying balls of fire erupted from the ground (or foundations), bursting forth repeatedly, scorching and burning workers, making the area impossible to approach.

(Pagan historian Ammianus Marcellinus reported "horrible balls of fire... rendering the place inaccessible to the scorched and blasted workmen." Christian writers like Gregory of Nazianzus added flames issuing forth, consuming some like Sodom's fate.)

The project collapsed in days. Workers fled, the site was abandoned, and Julian's death soon after in Persia ensured it was never resumed.
Think of it as a stage prop for the final act. That being the defeat of the son of perdition, his armies, and the redemption of Israel.
Whether it is holy or not is debatable, and not particularly relevant.
What IS relevant is the fulfillment of prophecies and promises and covenants!

It is also true that the legitimate Holy Temple WILL be rebuilt in the millennium post-Second Coming, with the Holy One sitting in it.
It doesn't get any holier than that.
 
It is impossible to rebuild the temple, it would be a building nothing more.

It can never be holy, the veil was torn.

You also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through.
1 Peter 2:5

This is a bit dramatized but I found it interesting, maybe God will make it another EPIC FAIL!!!

- - - >Emperor Julian (the Apostate) pushed to rebuild the Jewish Temple on the Temple Mount to undermine Christian prophecy (Jesus' words that no stone would remain upon another after its 70 AD destruction).

He funded it, let Jews return to Jerusalem, and appointed Alypius of Antioch to oversee the work. As soon as foundations were cleared and laid, catastrophe struck: contemporary accounts describe a violent earthquake shaking the site, scattering stones and materials. Then terrifying balls of fire erupted from the ground (or foundations), bursting forth repeatedly, scorching and burning workers, making the area impossible to approach.

(Pagan historian Ammianus Marcellinus reported "horrible balls of fire... rendering the place inaccessible to the scorched and blasted workmen." Christian writers like Gregory of Nazianzus added flames issuing forth, consuming some like Sodom's fate.)

The project collapsed in days. Workers fled, the site was abandoned, and Julian's death soon after in Persia ensured it was never resumed.
Sounds like God is pretty fussy about prophecy......right?
 
No, you're wrong and really quite presumptuous to say that. It nowhere states what you're claiming. The concision refers to those who taught gentiles had to be circumcised to be saved, and Acts 15 makes it clear that James did not agree with them. In fact, he explicitly stated that he did not send anyone claiming such things.

Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment: Acts 15:24
You can debate about whether or not James was the leader of a cult, but you can't debate about whether or not his advice to Paul to pay for the sacrifice for those with the nazarite vow was wrong. The book of Hebrews clearly states that is wrong, and Acts clearly states James was the leader who told Paul to do that.
 
You can debate about whether or not James was the leader of a cult, but you can't debate about whether or not his advice to Paul to pay for the sacrifice for those with the nazarite vow was wrong. The book of Hebrews clearly states that is wrong, and Acts clearly states James was the leader who told Paul to do that.

That was done to minimize the opportunities for accusations and violence. It had nothing to do with God or spiritual matters
 
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Disagree. There is MASSIVE irrefutable evidence to support a Temple in Jerusalem. In fact a Temple and sanctuary MUST exist before the Second Coming can ever occur. Likewise the rapture and the nation Israel in the land of Israel.
Not only that, all prophecy must be fulfilled and there is no other way that it can be.

Tell me this, when Jesus Messiah does come:
-where does His feet set down first?
-who's armies is He destroying?
-who is Israel fleeing from?
-who is the ultimate target that Christ seeks to destroy and make an example of?

Revelation 19:20
2 Thess 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
Vine's expository dictionary:
Sanctuary:

is used of the inner part of the Temple in Jerusalem, in Mat 23:35, RV, "sanctuary.

Matthew 4:5 Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple,
Vine's expository dictionary:
Temple:

the neuter of the adjective hieros, "sacred," is used as a noun denoting "a sacred place, a temple," that of Artemis (Diana), Act 19:27; that in Jerusalem, Mar 11:11, signifying the entire building with its precincts, or some part thereof, as distinct from the naos, "the inner sanctuary" (see No. 2); apart from the Gospels and Acts, it is mentioned only in 1Cr 9:13. Christ taught in one of the courts, to which all the people had access. Hieron is never used figuratively. The Temple mentioned in the Gospels and Acts was begun by Herod in 20 B.C., and destroyed by the Romans in A.D. 70.
 
Disagree. There is MASSIVE irrefutable evidence to support a Temple in Jerusalem. In fact a Temple and sanctuary MUST exist before the Second Coming can ever occur. Likewise the rapture and the nation Israel in the land of Israel.
Not only that, all prophecy must be fulfilled and there is no other way that it can be.

Tell me this, when Jesus Messiah does come:
-where does His feet set down first?
-who's armies is He destroying?
-who is Israel fleeing from?
-who is the ultimate target that Christ seeks to destroy and make an example of?

Revelation 19:20
You are conflating Temple with the sanctuary. Two different words. There is no need to build a temple, the Tabernacle of David is perfectly sufficient for everything that will happen.
 
That was done to minimize the opportunities for accusations and violence. It had nothing to do with God or spiritual matters
and with that we will end our discussion, no longer interested in a discussion about the Bible with someone who has this attitude.
 
Think of it as a stage prop for the final act. That being the defeat of the son of perdition, his armies, and the redemption of Israel.
Whether it is holy or not is debatable, and not particularly relevant.
What IS relevant is the fulfillment of prophecies and promises and covenants!

It is also true that the legitimate Holy Temple WILL be rebuilt in the millennium post-Second Coming, with the Holy One sitting in it.
It doesn't get any holier than that.

We are His new creation, first the natural and then the spiritual.
Deut 32, the song of Moses tells of Israel's end and destruction, which was completed in 70AD.
All the covenant curses from Deut 28 were fully meted out on that unfaithful harlot, Israel.
Josephus confirms for us all the horrific details.
 
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We are His new creation, first the natural and then the spiritual.
Deut 32, the song of Moses tells of Israel's end and destruction, which was completed in 70AD.
All the covenant curses from Deut 28 were fully meted out on that unfaithful harlot, Israel.
Josephus confirms for us all the horrific details.
Uh do you know Josephus particular role in all that?

 
Anyways, as easy as it is to get sucked into Roman history and we are much guilty for getting distracted by it, we must remember history is being written right now with the pen made of iron today. A little information about the new supposed Ayatollah the son of Khamenei, and Trump's reactions.

 
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