Revolution in Iran

[HeIsHere]

You don't see it probably because you only show up once in a while to stir up trouble and demonize those who don't share your views

Here's an example you missed:

Post in thread 'Revolution in Iran'

Apr 9, 2026

This is heartbreaking. "The blood won't come off". Please pray with me that God will deliver this woman from the grips of the beast that sanctions and encourages the anti-human crime she committed, and give her faith and open her eyes to know that Christ forgives her and will wash away her guilt and cleanse her conscience. I see grief in her smiles, not happiness at what she did

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Former Israeli soldier confesses she murdered a Palestinian child while smiling. She still cracks up every time she remembers shooting him. t.me/RussianBaZa

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False guilt tripping, imho, just ignore it, just another attempt to elevate PDH as a caring doctrine, it is not.
Current affairs, the rhetoric from people like Haggee et al., make it clear it is not.

 

[Cameron143]

Eh, too late for that from many of these. But I think really you already know this.

It just seems ironic when someone is talking about respect and decency and acts contrary to that.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

It just seems ironic when someone is talking about respect and decency and acts contrary to that.

I know you're talking about me and lack the courage and brotherly love to explain why what I say isn't respectful or decent, but would rather sit in the shadows and throw darts when you can

 

[cv5]

Yeah I am thinking alright, armies are going back to wars being waged on horseback (12:4) with swords. (13:7)

Will all the nations of the world soon suddenly become agrarian based in order to have planting and harvesting cycle necessary to keep the feast of tabernacles yearly? (14:17-20)

Along with many other modern impossibilities.

In Zechariah there is a time when Jerusalem would be surrounded and besieged 12:2, 13:8
In Matthew 24 the subject is the destruction of Jerusalem, 24:1-3.
In Revelation the theme is the destruction of the great city “where our Lord was crucified,” 11:8.

Notice all three accounts of this event were set in a specific time frame...
“in that day" Zech.12
“this generation shall not pass away,” Matthew 24:34
“the time is at hand" Rev.1:3

Time stamps, time stamps time stamps. Best to not to splice and dice the message to make it fit 2000+ years into the future.

"Will all the nations of the world soon suddenly become agrarian based in order to have planting and harvesting cycle necessary to keep the feast of tabernacles yearly? (14:17-20)"

Of course they will. There are untold passages indicating the same thing.

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“in that day" Zech.12"......sigh. Yes time stamp alright. And frankly the BIG one we are heading into like a freight train.
Too lazy to do your homework I see, and you are terribly confused. Here let me help......

“In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem…”
And NO, the LORD did NOT "defend" Israel in the times of judgement at 70AD and 132AD, rather He threw them under the judgement bus.

Zechariah 12 is densely structured around the phrase “in that day” (בַּיּוֹם הַהוּא / bayyom hahu), and it’s one of the clearest examples in the prophets where the phrase functions as a single unified prophetic time block (often understood in later interpretation as an end-time eschatological period).

Here is a structured map of every “in that day” occurrence in Zechariah 9–14 (KJV wording). I’ll group them by chapter and show how the phrase functions as a prophetic structural marker across the entire section.

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ZECHARIAH 9–14: “IN THAT DAY” MAP​

Zechariah 9 (no occurrences)​

Zechariah 9 sets up judgment and Messiah themes, but does not yet use the phrase.

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Zechariah 10 (no occurrences)​

Focus is restoration of Judah and Israel, but again no “in that day” formula yet.

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Zechariah 11 (no occurrences)​

This chapter is judgment on shepherds and rejection of leadership—still no use of the phrase.

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ZECHARIAH 12 — INTENSIVE “IN THAT DAY” BLOCK​

This is where the phrase explodes into repeated structural use.

Zechariah 12:3​

“In that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people…”

Zechariah 12:4​

“In that day… I will smite every horse with astonishment…”

Zechariah 12:6​

“In that day will I make the governors of Judah like an hearth of fire…”

Zechariah 12:8​

“In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem…”

Zechariah 12:9​

“In that day I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem…”

Zechariah 12:11​

“In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem…”

Zechariah 12:12​

“And the land shall mourn, every family apart…”

Zechariah 12:13​

“In that day there shall be a great mourning in Jerusalem…”

Observation:
Chapter 12 uses “in that day” like a repeated drumbeat of one climactic event series:

• military conflict
• divine intervention
• national mourning
• repentance

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ZECHARIAH 13 — CONTINUATION OF THE SAME “DAY”​

Zechariah 13:1​

“In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David…”

Zechariah 13:2​

“And it shall come to pass in that day… that I will cut off the names of the idols…”

Zechariah 13:4​

“And it shall come to pass in that day, that the prophets shall be ashamed…”

Zechariah 13:6​

“And one shall say unto him, What are these wounds in thine hands?…”

Observation:
Now the theme shifts:

• cleansing
• removal of idolatry
• purification of prophecy
• striking shepherd imagery (Messianic overtones debated)

So “that day” = not only judgment, but purification + covenant restoration

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ZECHARIAH 14 — FINAL ESCHATOLOGICAL CLIMAX​

Zechariah 14:4 (contextual continuation)​

While “in that day” appears repeatedly in this chapter, it is especially concentrated here:

Zechariah 14:6​

“And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark…”

Zechariah 14:8​

“And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem…”

Zechariah 14:9​

“And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD…”

Zechariah 14:13​

“And it shall come to pass in that day, that a great tumult from the LORD shall be among them…”

Zechariah 14:20–21 (culminating holiness theme)​

“In that day shall there be upon the bells of the horses, HOLINESS UNTO THE LORD…”

Observation:
Chapter 14 expands the “day” into:

• cosmic upheaval
• global kingship of YHWH
• geographic transformation (Jerusalem elevated theme)
• universal holiness

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

You don't see it probably because you only show up once in a while

There's a reason I show up "once in a while" lately. But I've been here for many years, so get used to it.

to stir up trouble and demonize those who don't share your views

I wonder why you can be understanding of what Islam teaches more so than what a fellow Christian believes.

Here's an example you missed:

Post in thread 'Revolution in Iran'

Apr 9, 2026

This is heartbreaking. "The blood won't come off". Please pray with me that God will deliver this woman from the grips of the beast that sanctions and encourages the anti-human crime she committed, and give her faith and open her eyes to know that Christ forgives her and will wash away her guilt and cleanse her conscience. I see grief in her smiles, not happiness at what she did

🇷🇺☦️ Russian БaZa ☦️🇷🇺

Former Israeli soldier confesses she murdered a Palestinian child while smiling. She still cracks up every time she remembers shooting him. t.me/RussianBaZa

t.me

• ChristRoseFromTheDead

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Your example was a Jew, of course. What about the Palestinians that cheered at the deaths of the people on OCT 7? What about the horrific murders they committed? You've made my point for me.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

I know that's important to your faith

It's what the Word says, or are you all going to rip that out too?

 

[cv5]

Yeah I am thinking alright, armies are going back to wars being waged on horseback (12:4) with swords. (13:7)

Will all the nations of the world soon suddenly become agrarian based in order to have planting and harvesting cycle necessary to keep the feast of tabernacles yearly? (14:17-20)

Along with many other modern impossibilities.

In Zechariah there is a time when Jerusalem would be surrounded and besieged 12:2, 13:8
In Matthew 24 the subject is the destruction of Jerusalem, 24:1-3.
In Revelation the theme is the destruction of the great city “where our Lord was crucified,” 11:8.

Notice all three accounts of this event were set in a specific time frame...
“in that day" Zech.12
“this generation shall not pass away,” Matthew 24:34
“the time is at hand" Rev.1:3

Time stamps, time stamps time stamps. Best to not to splice and dice the message to make it fit 2000+ years into the future.

Oh and BTW, I see that the exhortation to WATCH is lost on you.
Of course you also refuse to ponder the exceedingly dire implications (dead/not watch). But hey......you do you lady.

But this is definitely not the case with me. On the contrary WATCHING is just about on the top of my list.

Rev 3:1
And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.

Rev 3:3
Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch g1127 , I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

The KJV translates Strong's G1127 in the following manner: watch (21x), wake (1x), be vigilant (1x).
Outline of Biblical Usage [?]

1. to watch
2. metaph. give strict attention to, be cautious, active
   1. to take heed lest through remission and indolence some destructive calamity suddenly overtake one

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

I am out of superlatives, beyond belief will have to suffice!!

So contrary to message of the NT.

Romans 1:16 (NIV) states: "For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile".

Do any of you even own a Bible?

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

Justice needs to be served!! If she had faith in God, this never would’ve happened.

We don’t turn our heads pretending it never happened. I hope she repents, before justice is served.

Be careful, AI is everywhere. I believe this is propaganda, nothing true about it.

 

[cv5]

Oh and BTW, I see that the exhortation to WATCH is lost on you.
Of course you also refuse to ponder the exceedingly dire implications (dead/not watch). But hey......you do you lady.

But this is definitely not the case with me. On the contrary WATCHING is just about on the top of my list.

Rev 3:1
And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.

Rev 3:3
Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch g1127 , I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

The KJV translates Strong's G1127 in the following manner: watch (21x), wake (1x), be vigilant (1x).
Outline of Biblical Usage [?]

1. to watch
2. metaph. give strict attention to, be cautious, active
   1. to take heed lest through remission and indolence some destructive calamity suddenly overtake one

Here you go @HeIsHere :

How Sardis fits in the sequence:​

The flow often presented is:

1. Ephesus – apostolic purity, first love lost
2. Smyrna – persecuted early church
3. Pergamos – compromise with state power (“mixed marriage”)
4. Thyatira – medieval church corruption
5. Sardis – Reformation church with outward reputation but spiritual deadness
6. Philadelphia – missionary revival / faithful remnant
7. Laodicea – end-time lukewarm institutional church

Sardis (Revelation 3:1–6)​

Sardis is usually identified with the period of the post-Reformation Protestant churches (roughly 16th–18th century, sometimes extending further depending on the writer).


The key idea is:

• Sardis = “Reformation-era Protestantism” that has become spiritually “dead” or formalized
• “You have a name that you are alive, but you are dead” (Rev 3:1) is taken to mean:
  • strong doctrinal identity
  • but loss of spiritual vitality and living faith in many institutional forms

So in that framework:

• Reformation recovered truth (justification by faith, Scripture authority)
• But over time, many state churches or established denominations became formal, institutional, and spiritually lifeless

Some writers will nuance it further:

• Sardis = post-Reformation orthodoxy without revival power
• or the rise of confessional/state churches that became bureaucratic

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

False guilt tripping, imho, just ignore it, just another attempt to elevate PDH as a caring doctrine, it is not.

Talk about people who like to stir up grief. Your belief come from Martin Luther and goes straight to the Holocaust. So yes, I'd say the Bible belief where the Jews come to Jesus and are saved and God keeps His promises to them and to the church is a lot more caring than what you believe.

Current affairs, the rhetoric from people like Haggee et al., make it clear it is not.

But rhetoric from Tucker Carlson is the type you all can get behind.

 

[ZNP]

The problem is they persist and they can influence others. We need to make sure it is clear. I've been here for a lot of years and there might have been a couple of people with this belief. I mentioned it to mods at the time. Now it's spreading like the disease it is, it's sad.

How about taking a good, comprehensive response and simply cutting and pasting it every time?

 

[ZNP]

How about taking a good, comprehensive response and simply cutting and pasting it every time?

If they were truly serious about discussing this doctrine they would create a thread in the Bible Discussion forum rather than hijack a thread about Iran and the war.

 

[HeIsHere]

How about taking a good, comprehensive response and simply cutting and pasting it every time?

Really want that echo chamber it seems.
They get pretty boring and lead to error refuting error.
Oh well.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Rev 3:1
And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.

Rev 3:3
Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch g1127 , I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

He means to stay awake and watch one's garments so they don't become defiled, like from obsessing about OT prophecies instead of keeping one's eyes on Christ.

 

[HeIsHere]

"Will all the nations of the world soon suddenly become agrarian based in order to have planting and harvesting cycle necessary to keep the feast of tabernacles yearly? (14:17-20)"

Of course they will. There are untold passages indicating the same thing.

*******************************************************

“in that day" Zech.12"......sigh. Yes time stamp alright. And frankly the BIG one we are heading into like a freight train.
Too lazy to do your homework I see, and you are terribly confused. Here let me help......

“In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem…”
And NO, the LORD did NOT "defend" Israel in the times of judgement at 70AD and 132AD, rather He threw them under the judgement bus.

Zechariah 12 is densely structured around the phrase “in that day” (בַּיּוֹם הַהוּא / bayyom hahu), and it’s one of the clearest examples in the prophets where the phrase functions as a single unified prophetic time block (often understood in later interpretation as an end-time eschatological period).

Here is a structured map of every “in that day” occurrence in Zechariah 9–14 (KJV wording). I’ll group them by chapter and show how the phrase functions as a prophetic structural marker across the entire section.

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ZECHARIAH 9–14: “IN THAT DAY” MAP​

Zechariah 9 (no occurrences)​

Zechariah 9 sets up judgment and Messiah themes, but does not yet use the phrase.

---

Zechariah 10 (no occurrences)​

Focus is restoration of Judah and Israel, but again no “in that day” formula yet.

---

Zechariah 11 (no occurrences)​

This chapter is judgment on shepherds and rejection of leadership—still no use of the phrase.

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ZECHARIAH 12 — INTENSIVE “IN THAT DAY” BLOCK​

This is where the phrase explodes into repeated structural use.

Zechariah 12:3​

Zechariah 12:4​

Zechariah 12:6​

Zechariah 12:8​

Zechariah 12:9​

Zechariah 12:11​

Zechariah 12:12​

Zechariah 12:13​

Observation:
Chapter 12 uses “in that day” like a repeated drumbeat of one climactic event series:

• military conflict
• divine intervention
• national mourning
• repentance

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ZECHARIAH 13 — CONTINUATION OF THE SAME “DAY”​

Zechariah 13:1​

Zechariah 13:2​

Zechariah 13:4​

Zechariah 13:6​

Observation:
Now the theme shifts:

• cleansing
• removal of idolatry
• purification of prophecy
• striking shepherd imagery (Messianic overtones debated)

So “that day” = not only judgment, but purification + covenant restoration

---

ZECHARIAH 14 — FINAL ESCHATOLOGICAL CLIMAX​

Zechariah 14:4 (contextual continuation)​

While “in that day” appears repeatedly in this chapter, it is especially concentrated here:

Zechariah 14:6​

Zechariah 14:8​

Zechariah 14:9​

Zechariah 14:13​

Zechariah 14:20–21 (culminating holiness theme)​

Observation:
Chapter 14 expands the “day” into:

• cosmic upheaval
• global kingship of YHWH
• geographic transformation (Jerusalem elevated theme)
• universal holiness

Off on a tangent.
Time stamps, primary audience relevance always ignored.
Oh well. It will be shown to be false one way or another in time.
tick tock!

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

If they were truly serious about discussing this doctrine they would create a thread in the Bible Discussion forum rather than hijack a thread about Iran and the war.

You folks brought the subject up because it's the very thing driving the war in Iran; we're just responding to your errors and excesses

 

[ZNP]

Really want that echo chamber it seems.
They get pretty boring and lead to error refuting error.
Oh well.

How about taking a good, comprehensive response and simply cutting and pasting it every time?

 

[Cameron143]

I know you're talking about me and lack the courage and brotherly love to explain why what I say isn't respectful or decent, but would rather sit in the shadows and throw darts when you can

My sincerest of apologies that you thought I was acting in a manner to harm you. You obviously possess the discernment to know I was speaking concerning you. It's not a leap to be able discern the irony in speaking on a subject only to see the opposite on display.

To be honest, I wasn't attempting to correct behavior, but that the irony made me chuckle. I chuckled because it resonated with me having been guilty of the same on occasion.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

The US is becoming a pariah to the world by bringing it to the edge of economic depression and pirating ships at sea. Just be aware that when the US falls, there will be no mercy from the world