Revolution in Iran

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ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
No, it's not OK because the US is not Iran. The US has killed far more than 900 Iranians with its 47 years of brutal sanctions and by provoking Iraq to attack Iran decades ago
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Iran could have been the greatest nation in the Middle East. Instead, it chose the path of violence and hatred against the non Muslim world. It put its undoubted talents and abilities into oppressing its own people and being a curse and blight to the Western the world.

Iran has been stockpiling weapons that were to be used on Israel and America. They were also in the process of developing nuclear weapons. It is known that around 400 kg of enriched uranium was remover prior to the destruction of Iran's research facilities. It's enough for about 11 nukes. Iran has developed long range missiles to drop on Israel.

Prevention is better than cure. If Hitler had been prevented from attacking Czechoslovakia. he would not have started WW2. That war resulted in 60 million casualties, about 3% of the world's population at the time. It also would have hindered Stalin's take over of the Eastern European states.

Israel and America's mistake was in not dealing with Iran decades ago, before she became so powerful.

"History teaches us that we learn nothing from history." That is confirmed by the current hand wringing over Iran.
 
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Gideon300 said:
Iran could have been the greatest nation in the Middle East. Instead, it chose the path of violence and hatred against the non Muslim world. It put its undoubted talents and abilities into oppressing its own people and being a curse and blight to the Western the world.

Iran has been stockpiling weapons that were to be used on Israel and America. They were also in the process of developing nuclear weapons. It is known that around 400 kg of enriched uranium was remover prior to the destruction of Iran's research facilities. It's enough for about 11 nukes. Iran has developed long range missiles to drop on Israel.

Prevention is better than cure. If Hitler had been prevented from attacking Czechoslovakia. he would not have started WW2. That war resulted in 60 million casualties, about 3% of the world's population at the time. It also would have hindered Stalin's take over of the Eastern European states.

Israel and America's mistake was in not dealing with Iran decades ago, before she became so powerful.

"History teaches us that we learn nothing from history." That is confirmed by the current hand wringing over Iran.
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One problem that had with dealing with Iran, is they must have a justified reason for doing anything to Iran. When Iran started making those nukes and refused to stop, America and Israel where then able to do something.

Without a reason like that, everyone around the world says, "Why? Why are you doing that." It would have been unjust to do anything.
 
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Brasspen said:
One problem that had with dealing with Iran, is they must have a justified reason for doing anything to Iran. When Iran started making those nukes and refused to stop, America and Israel where then able to do something.

Without a reason like that, everyone around the world says, "Why? Why are you doing that." It would have been unjust to do anything.
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Iran declared war on America and the West in 1979. Europe watched Germany rearm under Hitler. it was obvious that Hitler would go to war. Wishful thinkers like Neville Chamberlain ignored the facts and believed Hitler's lies. Even then, WW2 could have been avoided. France had a stronger army (in theory) than Germany at the time. France did nothing to stop Hitler's initial aggression. The world paid a huge price - around 60 million casualties.

History is repeating itself now. Except this time, Iran was developing nuclear weapons. Does the world need to see Washington and Tel Aviv destroyed by a nuclear weapon before it wakes up? How many lives would be lost when America retaliates? Would other nations take advantage of the ensuing chaos? You can be sure of that.
 
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ThereRoseaLamb said:
Wow, I'm rather surprised at your response. First, Iran has been a menace for years! It's been the number one terrorist sponsor since the 70s. Every single president said they could not have a nuke and the only one that does something about it, everyone turns on him. And what of the people of Iran, the women in particular, don't they deserve freedom? Wow, I can't believe Christians would not want to see a free Iran. Stunning to me.
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Oh, It's about Free Iran now?
I thought it was "Joe got us into a lot of wars. That never would've happened under me."
Then it was the virtue signal that he had moral high ground because they can't have nooks.
He got rid of the site and said mission accomplished.

Then Bibi Netanyahu compelled mr T to expend American lives and go into more debt paying for his war to exterminate Iran.
All that while threatening his life with his not so subtle gift.


Is the fact that I don't want Yahoo threatening my president, and bribing US politicians to "force" America into another foreign war is idolatry and worship of Iran?

Then there's........,.fill in the blank, with more justifications for yet another war as if there weren't enough already.

There's a LOT of Trump voters who have a LOT of different reasons they are more than just a little disappointed with his decision lately.
His director of Counterteriorism has his own opinion too and explains why he stepped down.

 
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ZNP said:
Instead of worrying about these things I would recommend studying the prophecies. I find it very encouraging that Jesus and the Prophets saw all these things coming and told us thousands of years ahead of time.

Because they were not without hope. They didn't simply point out that the broad way leads to this destruction, they also told us of a narrow way that leads to life.

Our covenant with Jesus includes His protection. You must fear the Lord and obey Him with all your heart, but in return He will both protect and bless you. We were always told that the riches of the world are temporary, they rust, moths eat holes in them and thieves break in and steal them. The fact that all this is taking place in front of our eyes simply confirms that the Bible is the word of Truth. The Bible also told us that we can put our wealth in the heavens and there it will be safe.
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I'd just like to add one point, which I believe we should also take into consideration when we talk about the Lord protecting and bless us. His protection and blessing may not look like it from our perspective. God has allowed the enemy to torture and kill His Prophets. It's no different in the New Testament, all of the Apostles were executed except for John.

Jesus promised that His followers would be persecuted and killed, I read an article in a Christian bulletin, which stated that an average of 800 Christians are martyred around the world every week. But we never hear about them on any mainstream media platforms.

I agree with everything you pointed out, I just wanted to mention this to encourage everyone to fear God more than we fear man. Yes man can kill our bodies but then he has no further power to do anything.
 
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HeIsHere said:
There are so many factors at play I think it is difficult to really know how bad it will get. Things may be better in some other parts of the world and not so good in the US.
If the US and its vassal nation's decline in power, may be bring more balance to the world .. and perhaps the technocracy oligarchs/Ep***n class may fail which is the real threat.

Rest assured this is not the end "times".. the end of the "age" already happened.
People have been trying to make it the "end times" for many years but only God was able to announce it and make it happen just like He foretold.
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I'm not sure what you meant by "Rest assured this is not the end "times".. the end of the "age" already happened".
As I understand it, the "last days" or "end times" began when Christ ascended to heaven after His earthly Ministry. We have been in the end times for the past 2000 years. Nobody knows when Christ will return, but he did give us some signs to look for, which will preceded His return.
All of those signs are apparent in our generation.

The signs the Lord Jesus gave are
1. Deception: He said many will come in Jesus' name claiming to be the Messiah. (Matt 24:5, 24).

2. Conflicts: Wars, rumours of wars, and nations rising against each other (Matt 24:6-7).

3. Natural Disasters: Famines, earthquakes, and pestilences in various places (Matt 24:7, Luke 21:11).
4. Persecution: Believers will be hated, persecuted, and betrayed (Matt 24:9-10).
5. Lawlessness: Wickedness will increase, causing love to grow cold (Matt 24:12).
6. Global Gospel Outreach: The gospel will be preached to all nations (Matt 24:14).
7. The Abomination of Desolation: A desecration of the holy place (Matt 24:15).
8. Cosmic Signs: Disturbances in the sun, moon, and stars (Matt 24:29).

Those are the 8 signs Christ gave us to watchout for. I believe our generation is witnessing all of the above signs, so He could return at anytime, just like a thief in the night.

"Gird Up the Loins of Your Mind": 1 Peter 1:13 instructs believers to discipline their thoughts, maintain a sober/alert spirit, and be disciplined in their thinking to focus on Christ's return.
 
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Journey_man said:
As I understand it, the "last days" or "end times" began when Christ ascended to heaven after His earthly Ministry. We have been in the end times for the past 2000 years.
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IMO that's a nonsensical idea that I was also taught. Christ's appearance marked the beginning of the last days of the natural kingdom of Israel ruled by men that were completed with the destruction of the temple. Then the age of the nations began, which has lasted longer than the age of the kingdoms of Israel and Judah. So it really doesn't make sense to call the beginning of the age of the nations the last days. However, the last days of that era are now upon us.
 
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Journey_man said:
I'm not sure what you meant by "Rest assured this is not the end "times".. the end of the "age" already happened".
As I understand it, the "last days" or "end times" began when Christ ascended to heaven after His earthly Ministry. We have been in the end times for the past 2000 years. Nobody knows when Christ will return, but he did give us some signs to look for, which will preceded His return.
All of those signs are apparent in our generation.

The signs the Lord Jesus gave are
1. Deception: He said many will come in Jesus' name claiming to be the Messiah. (Matt 24:5, 24).

2. Conflicts: Wars, rumours of wars, and nations rising against each other (Matt 24:6-7).

3. Natural Disasters: Famines, earthquakes, and pestilences in various places (Matt 24:7, Luke 21:11).
4. Persecution: Believers will be hated, persecuted, and betrayed (Matt 24:9-10).
5. Lawlessness: Wickedness will increase, causing love to grow cold (Matt 24:12).
6. Global Gospel Outreach: The gospel will be preached to all nations (Matt 24:14).
7. The Abomination of Desolation: A desecration of the holy place (Matt 24:15).
8. Cosmic Signs: Disturbances in the sun, moon, and stars (Matt 24:29).

Those are the 8 signs Christ gave us to watchout for. I believe our generation is witnessing all of the above signs, so He could return at anytime, just like a thief in the night.

"Gird Up the Loins of Your Mind": 1 Peter 1:13 instructs believers to discipline their thoughts, maintain a sober/alert spirit, and be disciplined in their thinking to focus on Christ's return.
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Jesus told those things to the people of His time period.
Simple rule to follow - the Bible is written for us, not to us.
 
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HealthAndHappiness said:
Oh, It's about Free Iran now?
I thought it was "Joe got us into a lot of wars. That never would've happened under me."
Then it was the virtue signal that he had moral high ground because they can't have nooks.
He got rid of the site and said mission accomplished.

Then Bibi Netanyahu compelled mr T to expend American lives and go into more debt paying for his war to exterminate Iran.
All that while threatening his life with his not so subtle gift.


Is the fact that I don't want Yahoo threatening my president, and bribing US politicians to "force" America into another foreign war is idolatry and worship of Iran?

Then there's........,.fill in the blank, with more justifications for yet another war as if there weren't enough already.

There's a LOT of Trump voters who have a LOT of different reasons they are more than just a little disappointed with his decision lately.
His director of Counterteriorism has his own opinion too and explains why he stepped down.

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You responded as if that post may have been factual, it was not.
;)
I have noticed how quickly the smear campaign started against Kent.
Only a fool would believe the state approved narrative for this war.
 
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Gideon300 said:
Iran declared war on America and the West in 1979. Europe watched Germany rearm under Hitler. it was obvious that Hitler would go to war. Wishful thinkers like Neville Chamberlain ignored the facts and believed Hitler's lies. Even then, WW2 could have been avoided. France had a stronger army (in theory) than Germany at the time. France did nothing to stop Hitler's initial aggression. The world paid a huge price - around 60 million casualties.

History is repeating itself now. Except this time, Iran was developing nuclear weapons. Does the world need to see Washington and Tel Aviv destroyed by a nuclear weapon before it wakes up? How many lives would be lost when America retaliates? Would other nations take advantage of the ensuing chaos? You can be sure of that.
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Back to the middle it seems, no history existed prior to 1979.:rolleyes:
 
cv5 said:
Is this the only way to end the IRGC war machine?
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So is the US winning or not? Only reason to wipe out all those people with nuclear weapons would be if the US were losing. And wouldn't it be rather hypocritical to end up nuking a country so it couldn't end up developing nuclear weapons, before said country even had any, and as a result of a war commenced during negotiations where it had agreed not to build any? Also throws out any propaganda that this was for the benefit of the Iranian people.

It would kind of be a message to every country - "Get nuclear weapons before we nuke you in case you plan to develop them in future".
 
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Charlesiii said:
So is the US winning or not? Only reason to wipe out all those people with nuclear weapons would be if the US were losing. And wouldn't it be rather hypocritical to end up nuking a country so it couldn't end up developing nuclear weapons, before said country even had any, and as a result of a war commenced during negotiations where it had agreed not to build any? Also throws out any propaganda that this was for the benefit of the Iranian people.

It would kind of be a message to every country - "Get nuclear weapons before we nuke you in case you plan to develop them in future".
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Tru Dat!!!

:)

Every simulation the US ran showed them loosing this war, that is why other presidents kicked it down the road as they did not want a another failed war to be part of their legacy.
Those files assured it happened this time.
 
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