Revolution in Iran

[Kroogz]

I guess you have some things to figure out

Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. Romans 6:4​

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Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God, the Father, who raised him from the dead Galatians 1:1​

No one is denying this.

This is what you are denying....

John 10:30
I and the Father are one.”

John 8:58
“Truly, truly, I tell you,” Jesus declared, “before Abraham was born, I am!”


Do you believe in the Trinity? Is The Lord Jesus Christ God?

@christwasmadefromthedead seems to be a more appropriate handle for you.

 

[cv5]

No one cares what your opinion is. There are 8 billion people on this planet with 8 billion opinions. Where is your Biblical basis to say that there is no 2,000 year gap. We have already shared from Hosea 6 to provide a Biblical basis for the 2,000 year gap.

Second, you have not provided any Biblical basis for your gap theory.

OOOppps sorry this line was a copy paste error from an archived post. Not meant for you buddy lol.

"So now the ball is in your court. Explain if you can these crucial UNTIL statements."

 

[cv5]

No one is denying this.
This is what you are denying....

John 10:30
I and the Father are one.”

John 8:58
“Truly, truly, I tell you,” Jesus declared, “before Abraham was born, I am!”
Do you believe in the Trinity? Is The Lord Jesus Christ God?

@christwasmadefromthedead seems to be a more appropriate handle for you.

Yes this seems to be the latest heresy simmering in the background.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

No one is denying this.

This is what you are denying....

John 10:30
I and the Father are one.”

John 8:58
“Truly, truly, I tell you,” Jesus declared, “before Abraham was born, I am!”


Do you believe in the Trinity? Is The Lord Jesus Christ God?

@christwasmadefromthedead seems to be a more appropriate handle for you.

I know that the son isn't the father. You haven't figured that out yet

 

[cv5]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2044393497449410614

 

[cv5]

Interesting.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2044144696314728953

 

[cv5]

I know that the son isn't the father. You haven't figured that out yet

You haven't "figured out" that the Son resurrected Himself.
According to His own will and power?

Well, that is exactly what the impeccable Greek declares.

Did you want us to repost all of our elaborate and thoroughly correct findings on the matter?

 

[cv5]

Read the thread. Evidently Iran wants the ceasefire, Israel does not.
Speaks volumes about how the war is being prosecuted.
The IRGC is on the ropes and Hezbollah is being hung out to dry.
Not to mention the checks are starting to bounce.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2044415417720947199

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Did you want us to repost all of our elaborate and thoroughly correct findings on the matter?

Yes, please do

 

[HeIsHere]

So what are you telling us?
That you actually believe (as does @HeIsHere and @ChristRoseFromTheDead )
that the crucifixion per se is the "abomination" spoken of by Daniel the prophet standing in the holy place?

If even now you remain confused, you had better review my earlier posts on the matter.

Jesus was not the instrument of His own death but He allowed it to happen, in the end He had the authority to lay down His life.

But He did not put the nails in His own body.
Try thinking with more nuance.

 

[HeIsHere]

The covenant breaking and abomination of desolation (Daniel 9:27) were fulfilled by the destruction of the Temple in A.D. 70 by the Romans.

What covenant did the Romans have with God?

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

MAGA loves Kool-Aid

 

[cv5]

Yes, please do

You in fact DID reply to these.
And let the record show that you defied and denied these carefully wrought and superbly accurate Greek exegetical treatments.

• #5,703
• #5,716
• #5,715
• #5,713

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Try thinking with more nuance.

Fixed it for you

 

[HeIsHere]

The disciples of Augustin cannot ever win a skirmish let alone the war.

Seems to me the disciples of Ribera are the ones performing eisegesis with the invented Gap.

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The concept of a "gap" between the 69th and 70th weeks of Daniel 9 is most notably associated with Jesuit priest Francisco Ribera (1537–1591).
During the Counter-Reformation, Ribera proposed a futurist interpretation of prophecy that separated the final week from the previous 69, deferring it to a future time. While some attribute earlier origins to others, Ribera is widely recognized as the primary historical source for this futurist view.

The goal of Ribera’s book was to convince Protestants that the papal system is not the Antichrist. This was later taken up by others and eventually made its way into the Jesuit Scofield Study bible.
Info source

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

You in fact DID reply to these.
And let the record show that you defied and denied these carefully wrought and superbly accurate Greek exegetical treatments.

K

Post in thread 'Revolution in Iran'

Apr 14, 2026

You really aren't a very serious student of the word. You just pick and choose stuff that suits your fancy without an honest effort to discern the truth. Jesus had no power to take back his life, but he did have the authority to receive it back because he was sinless. Notice the difference:

Therefore my Father loves me because I lay down my life that I might receive (λαμβάνω) it again. No man takes it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have authority (ἐξουσία) to lay it down, and I have authority (ἐξουσία) to receive (λαμβάνω) it again. This...​

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Post in thread 'Revolution in Iran'

Apr 14, 2026

You are a sneaky snake or not a very well trained student.

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λαβεῖν
labein

to take


V-ANA

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Aorist~infinitive~ ACTIVE~~~~To take.....Actively.

labein labein G2983 vn 2 Aor Act TO-BE-GETTING

The Lord Jesus Christ was to be getting His own life.

Did you do that on purpose or are you that ignorant.......It's not looking like the latter.

Absolutely correct sir. You are a scholar and gentleman.

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In John 10:17 and 10:18, the word...

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Post in thread 'Revolution in Iran'

Apr 14, 2026

Where did he say that? You need to do a word study on the word you think definitively means he raised himself from the dead..

Of course Jesus raised Himself from the dead. The Greek is IMPECCABLY clear in saying that YES, He certainly raised Himself according to His OWN power and will.

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The code V-2AAN applies perfectly to the word λαβεῖν as it appears in John 10:17 and John 10:18.


When you see that code attached to these specific verses, here is the technical "manual" for what it means in the context of Jesus’ statement:

V: Verb​

It...

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Post in thread 'Revolution in Iran'

Apr 14, 2026

You really aren't a very serious student of the word. You just pick and choose stuff that suits your fancy without an honest effort to discern the truth. Jesus had no power to take back his life, but he did have the authority to receive it back because he was sinless. Notice the difference:

Therefore my Father loves me because I lay down my life that I might receive (λαμβάνω) it again. No man takes it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have authority (ἐξουσία) to lay it down, and I have authority (ἐξουσία) to receive (λαμβάνω) it again. This...​

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This word in this verse can only be translated as receives, yet you say it has to be translated as takes because it is in the active voice [cue wrong answer game show buzzer]

For every one that asketh receiveth (λαμβάνω); and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened. Matthew 7:8​

 

[HeIsHere]

MAGA loves Kool-Aid

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I was reading other threads in the New section, so true, always making excuses, providing cover.

"Whataboutism" is their main defense.

 

[cv5]

Jesus was not the instrument of His own death but He allowed it to happen, in the end He had the authority to lay down His life.

But He did not put the nails in His own body.
Try thinking with more nuance.

That does not resolve nor support this heresy that you promote declaring that the crucifixion is supposedly the abomination standing in the holy place.

So what are you telling us?
That you actually believe (as does @HeIsHere and @ChristRoseFromTheDead )
that the crucifixion per se is the "abomination" spoken of by Daniel the prophet standing in the holy place?

If even now you remain confused, you had better review my earlier posts on the matter.

Furthermore, the astute student understands that Jesus was fully in control of EVERY ASPECT of His own crucifixion.
Down to the tiniest detail and minutiae. Long in advance in eternity past. Furthermore, Jesus was LITERALLY "holding together"
the fists that beat Him and the nails that pierced Him.....and created the people doing it.

Do these "nuances" make any sense to you whatsoever? Because if they do not, you are walking in darkness.

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1. “No bones broken” (Passover lamb)​

OT:​

• Exodus 12:46
• Numbers 9:12

“You shall not break any of its bones”

NT fulfillment:​

• John 19:33–36

Jesus’ legs are not broken because He is already dead

Explicit NT interpretation:​

• John directly frames it as fulfillment of Scripture (John 19:36)

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2. Piercing / “they pierced Him”​

OT:​

• Zechariah 12:10

“They will look on Me whom they have pierced”

NT fulfillment:​

• John 19:34, 19:37

Soldier pierces Jesus’ side
John explicitly quotes Zechariah as fulfilled

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3. Division of garments / casting lots​

OT:​

• Psalms 22:18

“They divide my garments among them, and cast lots for my clothing”

NT fulfillment:​

• John 19:23–24

Soldiers divide garments and cast lots for seamless robe
John explicitly says: “This was to fulfill Scripture”

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4. Mocking / humiliation of the righteous sufferer​

OT:​

• Psalms 22:7–8

“All who see me mock me… ‘He trusts in the LORD, let Him deliver him’”

NT fulfillment:​

• Matthew 27:39–43

Crowd and leaders mock Jesus using nearly identical language
“He trusts in God; let God deliver Him”

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5. Physical suffering and disfigurement of the servant​

OT:​

• Isaiah 52:14

“His appearance was so marred beyond human likeness”

• Isaiah 53:5

“He was pierced for our transgressions… crushed for our iniquities”

NT fulfillment:​

• Mark 15:15–20

Scourging, mocking, beating, crown of thorns

• Crucifixion itself (all Gospels)

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6. Silent suffering (non-defensive Messiah)​

OT:​

• Isaiah 53:7

“He was oppressed and afflicted, yet He did not open His mouth”

NT fulfillment:​

• Matthew 27:12–14
• Mark 15:3–5

Jesus remains largely silent before accusations

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7. Burial with the rich​

OT:​

• Isaiah 53:9

“He was with a rich man in His death”

NT fulfillment:​

• Matthew 27:57–60

Jesus buried in the tomb of Joseph of Arimathea (a wealthy council member)

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8. Death as substitutionary suffering (theological core)​

OT:​

• Isaiah 53:4–6

“He bore our griefs… the LORD laid on Him the iniquity of us all”

NT fulfillment:​

• 1 Peter 2:24

“He Himself bore our sins in His body on the tree”

• Also reflected in:
  • Matthew 20:28
  • Mark 10:45

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9. Darkness during suffering​

OT prophetic imagery:​

• Amos 8:9

“I will make the sun go down at noon and darken the earth in broad daylight”

NT fulfillment:​

• Matthew 27:45

Darkness over the land from the sixth to ninth hour

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10. “They look upon Him”​

OT:​

• Zechariah 12:10

“They shall look on Me whom they pierced”

NT fulfillment:​

• John 19:37

Direct quotation applied to Jesus

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Big picture summary​

The NT writers interpret the crucifixion as a convergence of:

• Passover typology (Exodus 12)
• Suffering Servant prophecy (Isaiah 53)
• Righteous sufferer Psalms (Psalm 22)
• Prophetic piercing motif (Zechariah 12:10)

 

[cv5]

This word in this verse can only be translated as receives, yet you say it has to be translated as takes because it is in the active voice [cue wrong answer game show buzzer]

For every one that asketh receiveth (λαμβάνω); and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened. Matthew 7:8​

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Get a clue. You are fooling nobody but yourself, and making a fool of yourself while you are trying to do it.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

That does not resolve nor support this heresy that you promote declaring that the crucifixion is supposedly the abomination standing in the holy place.

My view is that is most definitely an abomination that made desolate, but not the abomination that Jesus was referring to (Daniel mentions 3 abominations)