Revolution in Iran

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"We". You speak for yourself. And I explained why I shared it. Your attempts to malign me with your totalitarian expectations is weak sauce.


We, those of us who see what your are posting and then crying you're a victim because you post Antisemitic things like that. No one is making you a victim. YOU are the one sharing the posts.
 
We, those of us who see what your are posting and then crying you're a victim because you post Antisemitic things like that. No one is making you a victim. YOU are the one sharing the posts.

I'm not claiming to be a victim; I fight back. That's why when someone like you slanders me I expose what they're doing.
 
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I'm not claiming to be a victim; I fight back. That's why when someone like you slanders me I expose what they're doing.

Some people do not understand the physical land was a "type" of something to come, which was much greater, all fulfilled in Christ which is denied.
 
Let's be honest, when they start throwing terms like "antisemitic", it's time to give it up. Don't waste your time.
 
I'm not claiming to be a victim; I fight back. That's why when someone like you slanders me I expose what they're doing.

Slander -Slander is the act of making false, spoken statements that damage a person's or entity's reputation.

Using YOUR words is not slander. Here we are.

- Carlson has stated that the Islamic concept of submission to God is a positive, foundational element of faith, recalling his own, non-vocalized thoughts from the post-9/11 era that "submission to God is the whole point of life".

Which is true compared to the totally lawless rebellion against God that we see in the west.

- Carlson has actively promoted the idea that Muslims deeply respect and love Jesus (Isa), a fact he claims "people in charge" do not want the public to know. He has highlighted that Jesus is a revered prophet in Islam and that this common ground is often overlooked.

They do respect Jesus because they consider him to be a prophet. Judaism hates Jesus

-He has criticized fellow conservatives and American leadership for mocking Islam, specifically describing a social media post by Donald Trump that mocked the religion as a "desecration of beauty and truth" and "evil".

Conservatives that mock Islam have lost the plot and need to focus on their own country's problems. Mocking religions doesn't do anything but offend and divide, and is really just self-righteousness.

- Carlson (then) contrasts this with his own experiences in the
Middle East. “I travel a lot in the Middle East. It’s
Countries governed by Sharia law. And you go there a .
and it’s incredible to be in a place that has pride in itself
that believes in its religion and culture, that thinks ‘we’re on to something.’ That kind of self-confidence is what
creates stability… and hospitality.”

Now compare that to the degraded condition of American cities and culture and you might be able to get his point.

-Carlson publicly rebuked Donald Trump for a social media post that used "Praise be to Allah" while threatening Iran on Easter Sunday. Carlson labeled this as a "desecration of beauty and truth" and declared that "no president should mock Islam".

No president should mock any religion. What a dumb, unpresidential thing to do
 
I believe the land is the reality, but it will be a kingdom on that land ruled by God rather than by men, ie, a city with foundations.

Well, I disagree, the land and the temple are types and shadows all fulfilled, a bit of dispensationalism left in ya! LOL
I will keep working on it. ;)
 
...has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds;
Hebrews 1:2
 
The land belongs to Abraham and his seed (unless you have a corrupt bible that says descendants). The seed is Jesus. When He returns, promises fulfilled.

Galatians 3:16​

16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

The NKJV is just one example, it's everywhere.

Genesis 28:3-4
King James Version
3 And God Almighty bless thee, and make thee fruitful, and multiply thee, that thou mayest be a multitude of people;
4 And give thee the blessing of Abraham, to thee, and to thy seed with thee; that thou mayest inherit the land wherein thou art a stranger, which God gave unto Abraham.

Genesis 28:4
New King James Version (Not King James Version)
4 And give you the blessing of Abraham,To you and your descendants with you,That you may inherit the landIn[a] which you are a stranger,Which God gave to Abraham.”
 
Let's be honest, when they start throwing terms like "antisemitic", it's time to give it up. Don't waste your time.


With all due respect, when people use Antisemitic tropes, what would you call them? You've not been a part of all the threads that this topic has been discussed. I don't meet people on the street and call them Antisemites. I didn't just randomly pick a handful of people at CC and decide to label them. No, it's what they say and post and promote!! When ChristRose first came here I didn't think we were that far apart on what we believed. I'm not sure HE knows what he believes. If it walks and talks like a duck, it's a duck. They are hitting out, yelling about Nazi's and Pharisees and Zionists simply to try and hide their true feelings. Otherwise they wouldn't post the things they post. It would like me posting a clearly racist joke and when caught say I'm being slandered and everyone is a Pharisee.

(BTW love the dogs in your avatar. Don't know if they are yours. Love Shepards, have one of my own now. Beautiful dogs.)
 
They don't, you been tossing that around this thread and it doesn't even make sense.

The doctrine of the pharisees makes perfect sense.

  1. The pharisees didn't believe that Jesus was Israel's messiah
  2. After the destruction of Jerusalem, the pharisees believed Israel after the flesh was still God's chosen nation
  3. This forced them to believe that OT prophecies point to a national restoration rather than to Christ and his body as the apostles believed and taught
Except for the first point, you believe exactly what they believed, so you are a follower of the doctrine of the pharisees
 
The doctrine of the pharisees makes perfect sense.

  1. The pharisees didn't believe that Jesus was Israel's messiah

Where in any of my posts did I say Jesus wasn't the Messiah. Plz post it here. Hint. You will be looking for a long, long time.


  1. After the destruction of Jerusalem, the pharisees believed Israel after the flesh was still God's chosen nation

That's because God said so. And a ton of Scriptures have been shared to prove that point. Romans 11 says so.



  1. This forced them to believe that OT prophecies point to a national restoration rather than to Christ and his body as the apostles believed and taught

Ok, the Bible says that God will plant them in their land never to be uprooted again. Which means ...
 
According to the writer to the Hebrews, Abraham and the patriarchs longed for a ‘better country – a heavenly one’.

They understood, though only dimly, that the land promised them actually had its origins in the heavenly, eternal reality that yet remained before them.

As a consequence, it is unthinkable that once the people of God have tasted of these eternal, heavenly realities they should somehow be thrust back into living with the old-covenant forms that could only foreshadow the realities of new-covenant fulfilments.

Instead of moving toward a worship centre localized in modern-day Jerusalem, the new-covenant believer joins with the angels to worship at the ‘heavenly Jerusalem, the city of the living God’


O. Palmer Robertson, “A New-Covenant Perspective on the Land,” in The Land of Promise: Biblical, Theological and Contemporary Perspectives (Downers Grove: InterVarsity Press, 2000), 123
 
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According to the writer to the Hebrews, Abraham and the patriarchs longed for a ‘better country – a heavenly one’.

Heavenly in that verse is genitive meaning the place they sought was of heaven, not in heaven. Namely, a permanent residence ruled and built by God. The kingdom of heaven, not the kingdom in heaven