Revolution in Iran

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Isaiah 60-62. Zechariah 12-14, Matthew 23:39, Romans 11:25-28 (we already discussed this and disagreed on who is spoken of but my view was that since this group is an enemy of the Gospel it is unbelieving Jews who will be saved), Ezekiel 40-48

You pretty much cant read the Bible without running into them, all over the place.

I don't think anyone here is going to debate you on the fact that the jews today are indeed sinners and against Christ. YET, as Romans 11:28 says, they are enemies of the gospel YET STILL beloved for the fathers sake and God will bring His promises to them to pass.

Oh, you meant prophecies. Why don;t you go through the prophecies you think pertain to Israel and explain how they aren't fulfilled in Christ and his body?

Matthew 23:39 was fufilled in Luke 19 (I forget which verse). Romans 11:25-28 says a believing remnant will be saved. Nowhere in scripture are unbelievers saved.

Romans 11;28 actually doesn't say that. The elect is beloved, which means the non-elect are not. Who are the elect? Unbelievers? Where has that every happened in scripture? It hasn't. Therefore the elect are the ones who believe, and the rest were blinded.

 

[cv5]

Which describes the remnant that believes, right? Not all Israel believes, so what does that make them?

Future believers of course. This according to the gracious will of God and the innumerable prophecies thereof.
Prophecies that are infallible and without question or doubt certain to be fulfilled.

 

[Kroogz]

Matthew 23:39 was fufilled in Luke 19 (I forget which verse).

Of course you forget which verse.....Just a few days earlier:


Matthew 21:9 ( Jews..Quoting Psalm 118:26)

9 The crowds going ahead of Him, and those who followed, were shouting,

“Hosanna to the Son of David;

Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord;

Hosanna in the highest!”


Matt 23:37
“Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who have been sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were unwilling.

Matt 23:39~For I say to you, from now on you will not see Me until you say, ‘BLESSED IS THE ONE WHO COMES IN THE NAME OF THE LORD!’”


Zechariah 12:10
10 “I will pour out on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the Spirit of grace and of supplication, so that they will look on Me whom they have pierced; and they will mourn for Him, as one mourns for an only son, and they will weep bitterly over Him like …

You didn't see this in your "forgotten" verse in Luke.......We know and you know it.

 

[cv5]

Oh, you meant prophecies. Why don;t you go through the prophecies you think pertain to Israel and explain how they aren't fulfilled in Christ and his body?

Matthew 23:39 was fufilled in Luke 19 (I forget which verse). Romans 11:25-28 says a believing remnant will be saved. Nowhere in scripture are unbelievers saved.

Romans 11;28 actually doesn't say that. The elect is beloved, which means the non-elect are not. Who are the elect? Unbelievers? Where has that every happened in scripture? It hasn't. Therefore the elect are the ones who believe, and the rest were blinded.

So then you are saying that Christ is ruling HIMSELF with a rod of iron?

 

[HeIsHere]

Future believers of course. This according to the gracious will of God and the innumerable prophecies thereof.
Prophecies that are infallible and without question or doubt certain to be fulfilled.

So much for free will, God is going to make and entire group believe.
That is prophecy folks.

 

[cv5]

So much for free will, God is going to make and entire group believe.
That is prophecy folks.

Rubbish argument and you know it.

The Scripture is clear: the Nation Israel WILLFULLY rejected their Messiah.
They shall, in the near future, under great duress, WILLINGLY accept Him at His return.

The script will be flipped. In that and many other ways.

 

[cv5]

Oh, you meant prophecies. Why don;t you go through the prophecies you think pertain to Israel and explain how they aren't fulfilled in Christ and his body?

Matthew 23:39 was fufilled in Luke 19 (I forget which verse). Romans 11:25-28 says a believing remnant will be saved. Nowhere in scripture are unbelievers saved.

Romans 11;28 actually doesn't say that. The elect is beloved, which means the non-elect are not. Who are the elect? Unbelievers? Where has that every happened in scripture? It hasn't. Therefore the elect are the ones who believe, and the rest were blinded.

How many tutors do you need? A dozen?
And you @HeIsHere , what irrational hand waving are we to expect from you?

[Mat 12:32 NKJV] 32 "Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the [age] to come.

[Mar 10:30 NKJV] 30 "who shall not receive a hundredfold now in this time--houses and brothers and sisters and mothers and children and lands, with persecutions--and in the age to come, eternal life.

[Luk 18:30 NKJV] 30 "who shall not receive many times more in this present time, and in the age to come eternal life."

[Eph 1:21 NKJV] 21 far above all principality and power and might and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age but also in that which is to come.

 

[HeIsHere]

The whole purpose is to generate noise and distractions to keep Christians from focusing on Christ.

Yes agree look at all the speculation in the BDF about the timing of the rapture blah, blah, blah.

 

[HeIsHere]

Rubbish argument and you know it.

The Scripture is clear: the Nation Israel WILLFULLY rejected their Messiah.
They shall, in the near future, under great duress, WILLINGLY accept Him at His return.

The script will be flipped. In that and many other ways.

Wrong many, many of the first converts were Jews.

Once again splice and split is an epic fail! LOL

 

[SonJudgment]

How many tutors do you need? A dozen?
And you @HeIsHere , what irrational hand waving are we to expect from you?

[Mat 12:32 NKJV] 32 "Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the [age] to come.

[Mar 10:30 NKJV] 30 "who shall not receive a hundredfold now in this time--houses and brothers and sisters and mothers and children and lands, with persecutions--and in the age to come, eternal life.

[Luk 18:30 NKJV] 30 "who shall not receive many times more in this present time, and in the age to come eternal life."

[Eph 1:21 NKJV] 21 far above all principality and power and might and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age but also in that which is to come.

Maybe she'll try to play tarot against us again.

 

[HeIsHere]

Maybe she'll try to play tarot against us again.

That is your idol, not mine.

 

[SonJudgment]

That is your idol, not mine.

That's why you're drawing the cards right?

 

[HeIsHere]

Transparency.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2051498884787302835

 

[HeIsHere]

Oh, you meant prophecies. Why don;t you go through the prophecies you think pertain to Israel and explain how they aren't fulfilled in Christ and his body?

Matthew 23:39 was fufilled in Luke 19 (I forget which verse). Romans 11:25-28 says a believing remnant will be saved. Nowhere in scripture are unbelievers saved.

Romans 11;28 actually doesn't say that. The elect is beloved, which means the non-elect are not. Who are the elect? Unbelievers? Where has that every happened in scripture? It hasn't. Therefore the elect are the ones who believe, and the rest were blinded.

Basically what they are teaching is that Christ failed with regards to His people and has to return to get it right.

 

[SonJudgment]

Wave the white flag or get wiped off the face of the Earth.

 

[cv5]

Wrong many, many of the first converts were Jews.

Once again splice and split is an epic fail! LOL

More hand waving for the sake of some bizarre Church preeminence superiority complex.
So you say that the Nation Israel did NOT reject their Messiah?
Do you actually have a Bible and read it?

And has been conclusively proven COUNTLESS times, the Nation will receive Him during their great distress, the time of Jacobs Trouble the 70th week of Daniel.

Mat 21:42
Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?

Mar 8:31
And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.

Luk 17:25
But first must he suffer many things, and be rejected of this generation.

 

[cv5]

Maybe she'll try to play tarot against us again.

The replacement theology proponents have been drawing dead as long as this thread has existed.
Its a non-stop replacement theology epic fail of momentous proportions.

 

[SonJudgment]

The replacement theology proponents have been drawing dead as long as this thread has existed.
Its a non-stop replacement theology epic fail of momentous proportions.

Frankly all that is the least of their worries, they still haven't repented for blaspheming Jesus and calling the crucifixion the abomination of desolation, they even doubled down. We waited even a whole week no thumb on the scale, no interference, to see what they would do. These wicked fools even identified that they know the abomination of desolation is the idol that the Antichrist sets up. In their madness and their folley they try to do witchtok tarot witchcraft on Trump to save their little satanic friends and it saved them not. How are they going to escape from the wrath of the Lamb?

 

[Squigglylines]

As a Christian I would suggest taking note of this foes religious beliefs. In Iran 95% of it's population are Shiite Muslim Twelver's. In their religion they are awaiting the 12th Imam who they see as having infallible abilities given to him by God. Until then the Ayatollahs rule one after the next until he comes. In Twelver beliefs the Ayatollah,other leaders,generals ect. can negotiate a ceasefire, withdrawal ect. to save lives or to better their advantage in war but they cannot and do not have the right to surrender. They must remain Muslim even faced with death.
In Christianity we believe that it is an unforgivable sin to blaspheme the Holy Spirit. We cannot deny Jesus Christ or receive the Mark of the Beast and still end up in Heaven. To the Twelver's in Iran if they surrender and agree to cease from this war against those they see as infidels then they are no longer Muslim and have forfeited their eternal life in Heaven. They will never surrender nor agree to these terms anymore than we will deny Jesus Christ.

 

[SonJudgment]

As a Christian I would suggest taking note of this foes religious beliefs. In Iran 95% of it's population are Shiite Muslim Twelver's. In their religion they are awaiting the 12th Imam who they see as having infallible abilities given to him by God. Until then the Ayatollahs rule one after the next until he comes. In Twelver beliefs the Ayatollah,other leaders,generals ect. can negotiate a ceasefire, withdrawal ect. to save lives or to better their advantage in war but they cannot and do not have the right to surrender. They must remain Muslim even faced with death.
In Christianity we believe that it is an unforgivable sin to blaspheme the Holy Spirit. We cannot deny Jesus Christ or receive the Mark of the Beast and still end up in Heaven. To the Twelver's in Iran if they surrender and agree to cease from this war against those they see as infidels then they are no longer Muslim and have forfeited their eternal life in Heaven. They will never surrender nor agree to these terms anymore than we will deny Jesus Christ.

Yes, this is why the first plan was aimed at destroying the cult element and de-legitimizing the selection process of the Marja. We actually covered this way back before strikes began. You have to understand the uniqueness of Iran's cult, they're not just Twelver Shias, they also are unique in that they claim the Supreme Leader can talk to the Mahdi and the policies of the State are supposedly whatever the Mahdi tells them. This is a unique thing to Iran itself, it's because Khomeini set the government up that way, it's tied to their cult, the two are inextricably linked.