Revolution in Iran

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Chalk up another victory to Trump, Iran is not going to be charging a toll for ships using the strait of Hormuz, what they are charging is a "service usage fee", not a "toll". A toll is a fee charged for someone to cross the Strait, they aren't charging you to cross the strait, only a fee to use the strait. Yep, the old semantic sleight of hand.
 
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ZNP said:
Chalk up another victory to Trump, Iran is not going to be charging a toll for ships using the strait of Hormuz, what they are charging is a "service usage fee", not a "toll". A toll is a fee charged for someone to cross the Strait, they aren't charging you to cross the strait, only a fee to use the strait. Yep, the old semantic sleight of hand.
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Well guess their frozen assets stay frozen and we begin to plot Operation 2 Tehran Electric Bugaloo.
 
ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
Eschatology porn is really what it is.
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So you say that Jesus is uttering exaggerated hyperbolic falsehoods?
And you are calling it "porn"?

Mat 24:30 - And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Mat 24:31 - And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Mat 24:31 - And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Luk 17:24 - For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day.

Luk 17:29 - But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
 
cv5 said:
So you say that Jesus is uttering exaggerated hyperbolic falsehoods?
And you are calling it "porn"?

Mat 24:30 - And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Mat 24:31 - And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Mat 24:31 - And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Luk 17:24 - For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day.

Luk 17:29 - But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
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No, those are legitimate future prophecies. i'm referring to the many, many prophecies that have been, and are being, fulfilled in Christ and his body that prophecy porn addicts ignore and project into the future because PROPHECY IS EXCITING!
 
cv5 said:
So you say that Jesus is uttering exaggerated hyperbolic falsehoods?
And you are calling it "porn"?

Mat 24:30 - And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Mat 24:31 - And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Mat 24:31 - And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Luk 17:24 - For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day.

Luk 17:29 - But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
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Well hell, he already said he thinks Jesus' crucifixion is the abomination of desolation. It shouldn't be any wonder he aligns with the God's enemies the heretics and the pagans.
 
ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
No, those are legitimate future prophecies. i'm referring to the many, many prophecies that have been, and are being, fulfilled in Christ and his body that prophecy porn addicts ignore and project into the future because PROPHECY IS EXCITING!
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The only prophetic milestone left for the Church the Bride is the harpazo.

And that event is imminent.....🤨

The MANY many remaining unfulfilled prophecies pertain to the Nation Israel, who will inevitably enter in to the New Covenant as well. But by a completely different set of initial conditions and impetus of circumstances and with a vastly different outcome.

Try and keep up will you.
 
cv5 said:
The only prophetic milestone left for the Church the Bride is the harpazo.

And that event is imminent.....🤨

The MANY many remaining unfulfilled prophecies pertain to the Nation Israel, who will inevitably enter in to the New Covenant as well. But by a completely different set of initial conditions and impetus of circumstances and with a vastly different outcome.

Try and keep up will you.
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Well if you live long enough you will see the trumpets begin to sound before you will see a harpazo.
 
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Psalm 28:1 Unto thee will I cry, O Lord my rock; be not silent to me: lest, if thou be silent to me, I become like them that go down into the pit. 2 Hear the voice of my supplications, when I cry unto thee, when I lift up my hands toward thy holy oracle. 3 Draw me not away with the wicked, and with the workers of iniquity, which speak peace to their neighbours, but mischief is in their hearts.
 
Aussie52 said:
As you were the first to mention Hamas using civilians as shields, the burden of proof lies with you.

As for any Palestinian narrative, Big Brother here at the Forum appears biased towards Israel.
I posted a lengthy piece on the Nakbar of 1948. The post went off for 'approval' and has not been seen since.
So, any fair discussion on the Israeli/Palestinian crises is not possible.
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Have you given your land back to the aboriginals? If not, you should probably sit this one out.
 
ZNP said:
Good point, both Australians and Americans are disqualified from condemning Israel's behavior towards Gaza.
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That's stupid. Australians and Americans stopped killing their native populations hundreds of years ago. Even during those times, it was seen by many for what it is - genocide. And again, its one thing to steal someone's home or land, another to imprison them and brutally rape them (before trial) and murder their kids. Pretty sure neither the Australian or American government ever endorsed that.
 
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Aussie52 said:
I didn't take any land from the Aborigines, it was in the past, but present Israel is killing Palestinians now at this moment
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Exactly. These hypocrites would have us go back to the days when terrorism was winked at and nuking thy neighbour was just another option in war. Until the boot is on the other foot, of course.
 
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Aussie52 said:
I didn't take any land from the Aborigines, it was in the past, but present Israel is killing Palestinians now at this moment
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Well shouldn't you be focused on fixing the problems at home before telling others what they should do?
 
Charlesiii said:
That's stupid. Australians and Americans stopped killing their native populations hundreds of years ago. Even during those times, it was seen by many for what it is - genocide. And again, its one thing to steal someone's home or land, another to imprison them and brutally rape them (before trial) and murder their kids. Pretty sure neither the Australian or American government ever endorsed that.
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They go on about the "nutters" and the "cult" in Iran but never once do they denounce, let alone acknowledge the other evil acts which far surpass what they rail about.

They are not to be taken seriously in any way, nor on any subject, I have driven a hard line with such people who are not honest about what is plainly happening.

Let us remember this one situation of many, many where instead of receiving help a young five year old girl received 355 bullets and the paramedics who arrived later to help her were killed as well.
There may yet be some justice in this world... the leader of the battalion who gave that innocent girl 355 bullets was recently killed in Lebanon.
 
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Aussie52 said:
I didn't take any land from the Aborigines, it was in the past, but present Israel is killing Palestinians now at this moment
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As you will see by the response you received, deflection, denial and everything else they can find is always in operation.
 
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"This generation” can only with the greatest difficulty be made to mean anything other than the generation living when Jesus spoke.

Even if generation by itself can have a slightly larger semantic range, to make “this generation” refer to all believers in every age, or the generation of believers alive when eschatological events start to happen, is highly artificial.”

The Expositors Bible Commentary, P. 507, D.A. Carson
 
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