Revolution in Iran

[Charlesiii]

No Harpazo today so far... but the day is still young!

Conserving their strength for the false flag to come if peace prevails, perhaps? Practically the whole world is waiting for the pariah state to do what it always does when it doesn't get its way. I just hope that the criminals face justice this time.

 

[HeIsHere]

Conserving their strength for the false flag to come if peace prevails, perhaps? Practically the whole world is waiting for the pariah state to do what it always does when it doesn't get its way. I just hope that the criminals face justice this time.

Well, if we follow the eschatological plan that has been formulated, we know they need to be hated by every country so yes someone will have to escalate the situation. I am sure there is a lot of collusion behind the scenes to implement this surveillance state but for us we get the theater.

And all this made possible because people have been waiting and waiting for harpazo... the "church" as the mystery parenthesis.

 

[HeIsHere]

Conserving their strength for the false flag to come if peace prevails, perhaps? Practically the whole world is waiting for the pariah state to do what it always does when it doesn't get its way. I just hope that the criminals face justice this time.

On your last statement I am doubtful they will, in this life they are being rewarded, we live in time of lawlessness of course that is also part of the plan to convince people that harpazo is any day now.

 

[NightTwister]

Have you given your land back to the Native Americans?

Why would I? I'm a Native American. And of course you avoided the question.

 

[NightTwister]

That's stupid. Australians and Americans stopped killing their native populations hundreds of years ago. Even during those times, it was seen by many for what it is - genocide. And again, its one thing to steal someone's home or land, another to imprison them and brutally rape them (before trial) and murder their kids. Pretty sure neither the Australian or American government ever endorsed that.

You're kidding, right?

 

[SonJudgment]

They will never be able to stop Jesus from coming back now that he is resurrected and glorified and sits at the right hand of the Father. All their heresies and lies won't be able to stop the truth that stands forever, praise Jesus.


Luke 21;25-33

25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

29 And he spake to them a parable; Behold the fig tree, and all the trees;

30 When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand.

31 So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand.

32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.

33 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.

 

[cv5]

Conserving their strength for the false flag to come if peace prevails, perhaps? Practically the whole world is waiting for the pariah state to do what it always does when it doesn't get its way. I just hope that the criminals face justice this time.

In his comprehensive theological framework, Dr. Arnold Fruchtenbaum outlines Eight Covenants in the Bible. He categorizes them strictly by whether they are conditional (temporary and subject to human failure) or unconditional (eternal and dependent solely on God's fulfillment).

According to Fruchtenbaum, a covenant is considered obsolete when its dynamic administrative system has been completely fulfilled and set aside, or when the conditions of a temporary covenant have been irrevocably broken or superseded.

Covenants that are Obsolete / No Longer in Force

Fruchtenbaum identifies two covenants as obsolete or rendered completely inoperative:
The Edenic Covenant: Made with Adam before the Fall (Genesis 1:28–30, 2:15–17). It was a conditional covenant requiring perfect obedience. When Adam failed and sinned, this covenant was broken and became obsolete, bringing its administrative era to an end.

The Mosaic Covenant: Made with the nation of Israel at Mount Sinai (Exodus 19–24). Fruchtenbaum emphasizes that the Mosaic Law (all 613 commandments, including the Ten Commandments) was a distinct, conditional, and explicitly temporary covenant. The New Testament teaches that the death of Jesus Christ completely fulfilled and rendered the Mosaic Law inoperative (katargeo), making it obsolete as a governing framework.

 

[cv5]

Conserving their strength for the false flag to come if peace prevails, perhaps? Practically the whole world is waiting for the pariah state to do what it always does when it doesn't get its way. I just hope that the criminals face justice this time.

If you care (or dare) to contend with Fruchtenbaum on these matters, by all means give it your best shot. Pathetic ignorant sniping and cheap shot derogatory slurs against Jews, the Nation Israel and dispensationalists don't count.

Covenants that Remain in Force

Fruchtenbaum teaches that the remaining six covenants are unconditional, eternal, and remain fully in force. Even if some aspects or blessings are suspended or await future implementation in the Messianic Kingdom, the covenants themselves cannot be nullified because they rely entirely on the character and "I will" promises of God.

Universal Covenants (Made with Humanity)

The Adamic Covenant: Made with Adam after the Fall (Genesis 3:14–19). It outlines the ongoing reality of physical life on a fallen earth, including labor, physical death, and the ultimate promise of redemption through the "seed of the woman" (the protoevangelium).

The Noahic Covenant: Made with Noah and all living creatures (Genesis 9:1–17). It establishes the preservation of the earth's natural cycles, permits the eating of meat, institutes capital punishment for murder, and guarantees that God will never again destroy the earth by a universal flood (signified by the rainbow).

Theocratic Covenants (Made Exclusively with Israel)

The Abrahamic Covenant: Made with Abraham (Genesis 12:1–3, 15:1–21). It remains the foundation for all subsequent Jewish covenants, promising a specific geographic land (Canaan), a great nation (physical descendants/the Jewish people), and worldwide spiritual blessing through his lineage.

The Land Covenant (Palestinian Covenant): Established in Deuteronomy 29:1–30:20. It amplifies the land aspect of the Abrahamic Covenant, unconditionally promising that despite Israel's disobedience and subsequent worldwide dispersions, God will ultimately regather the nation and permanently settle them in the Promised Land.

The Davidic Covenant: Made with King David (2 Samuel 7:11–16). It promises an eternal dynasty, an eternal kingdom, an eternal throne, and an eternal descendant—culminating in the Person and future reigning authority of Jesus the Messiah.

The New Covenant: Prophesied to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31–34. It is an unconditional covenant providing for national regeneration, individual salvation, the internal indwelling of the Holy Spirit, and the absolute forgiveness of sins. Fruchtenbaum notes that while it belongs fundamentally to Israel, believers today are spiritual partakers of its saving benefits during the current age.

 

[cv5]

Exactly. These hypocrites would have us go back to the days when terrorism was winked at and nuking thy neighbour was just another option in war. Until the boot is on the other foot, of course.

The Lord Jesus is talking. To you.
But will you listen?

Jhn 4:22 - Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.

 

[cv5]

If you care (or dare) to contend with Fruchtenbaum on these matters, by all means give it your best shot. Pathetic ignorant sniping and cheap shot derogatory slurs against Jews, the Nation Israel and dispensationalists don't count.

Covenants that Remain in Force

Fruchtenbaum teaches that the remaining six covenants are unconditional, eternal, and remain fully in force. Even if some aspects or blessings are suspended or await future implementation in the Messianic Kingdom, the covenants themselves cannot be nullified because they rely entirely on the character and "I will" promises of God.

Universal Covenants (Made with Humanity)

The Adamic Covenant: Made with Adam after the Fall (Genesis 3:14–19). It outlines the ongoing reality of physical life on a fallen earth, including labor, physical death, and the ultimate promise of redemption through the "seed of the woman" (the protoevangelium).

The Noahic Covenant: Made with Noah and all living creatures (Genesis 9:1–17). It establishes the preservation of the earth's natural cycles, permits the eating of meat, institutes capital punishment for murder, and guarantees that God will never again destroy the earth by a universal flood (signified by the rainbow).

Theocratic Covenants (Made Exclusively with Israel)

The Abrahamic Covenant: Made with Abraham (Genesis 12:1–3, 15:1–21). It remains the foundation for all subsequent Jewish covenants, promising a specific geographic land (Canaan), a great nation (physical descendants/the Jewish people), and worldwide spiritual blessing through his lineage.

The Land Covenant (Palestinian Covenant): Established in Deuteronomy 29:1–30:20. It amplifies the land aspect of the Abrahamic Covenant, unconditionally promising that despite Israel's disobedience and subsequent worldwide dispersions, God will ultimately regather the nation and permanently settle them in the Promised Land.

The Davidic Covenant: Made with King David (2 Samuel 7:11–16). It promises an eternal dynasty, an eternal kingdom, an eternal throne, and an eternal descendant—culminating in the Person and future reigning authority of Jesus the Messiah.

The New Covenant: Prophesied to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31–34. It is an unconditional covenant providing for national regeneration, individual salvation, the internal indwelling of the Holy Spirit, and the absolute forgiveness of sins. Fruchtenbaum notes that while it belongs fundamentally to Israel, believers today are spiritual partakers of its saving benefits during the current age.

Fruchtenbaum notes that while it belongs fundamentally to Israel, believers today are spiritual partakers of its saving benefits during the current age.

 

[SonJudgment]

How they are willingly ignorant yet prove 2 Peter 3 against themselves.

2 Peter 3:3-7

3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

5 ;For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:

6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:

7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

 

[cv5]

How they are willingly ignorant yet prove 2 Peter 3 against themselves.

2 Peter 3:3-7

3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

5 ;For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:

6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:

7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

1Th 5:20 - Do not despise prophecies.

1Th 5:3 - For when they say, “Peace and safety!” then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape.

I am afraid that things will not go well for those that mock and despise prophecies, the Nation Israel and Gods beloved people the Jews.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

1Th 5:20 - Do not despise prophecies.

1Th 5:3 - For when they say, “Peace and safety!” then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape.

I am afraid that things will not go well for those that mock and despise prophecies, the Nation Israel and Gods beloved people the Jews.

That is speaking about globohomo Israel when they think they have vanquished all of their enemies.

And when [the two witnesses] shall have finished their witness, the beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them. And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves. And they that dwell upon the land shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the land. And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them. Revelation 11:7-11​

 

[SonJudgment]

1Th 5:20 - Do not despise prophecies.

I am afraid that things will not go well for those that mock and despise prophecies, the Nation Israel and Gods beloved people the Jews.

It's deeper than that, the reason they mock is because they are unfaithful and also faithless. Go figure the shameful generations that committed more whoredom than any before them, who can't even be faithful to one person for life, also are not faithful to God. So like their fathers the Pharisees they are jealous of the true faithful. Don't be afraid, they're already cursed, and they'll never change destiny, praise Jesus.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

So like their fathers the Pharisees they are jealous of the true faithful. Don't be afraid, they're already cursed, and they'll never change destiny, praise Jesus.

Hilarious. A follower of pharisee entitlement theology accusing others of following the pharisees

 

[cv5]

It's deeper than that, the reason they mock is because they are unfaithful and also faithless. Go figure the shameful generations that committed more whoredom than any before them, who can't even be faithful to one person for life, also are not faithful to God. So like their fathers the Pharisees they are jealous of the true faithful. Don't be afraid, they're already cursed, and they'll never change destiny, praise Jesus.

"they are jealous of the true faithful"

Prescient insight.....

 

[cv5]

That is speaking about globohomo Israel when they think they have vanquished all of their enemies.

And when [the two witnesses] shall have finished their witness, the beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them. And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves. And they that dwell upon the land shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the land. And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them. Revelation 11:7-11​

Things are always darkest before the dawn. BTW, God specialty is creating a good ending from a bad beginning.

Isa 65:17 - For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.

Isa 65:18 - But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.

Isa 66:10 - Rejoice ye with Jerusalem, and be glad with her, all ye that love her: rejoice for joy with her, all ye that mourn for her:

Psa 122:6 - Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: they shall prosper that love thee.

Zec 1:17 - Cry yet, saying, Thus saith the LORD of hosts; My cities through prosperity shall yet be spread abroad; and the LORD shall yet comfort Zion, and shall yet choose Jerusalem.

Zec 2:12 - And the LORD shall inherit Judah his portion in the holy land, and shall choose Jerusalem again.

Jer 31:11 - For the LORD will deliver Jacob and redeem them from the hand of those stronger than they.

 

[SonJudgment]

Hilarious. A follower of pharisee entitlement theology accusing others of following the pharisees

You call the crucifixion of Jesus the abomination of desolation. They were dismayed to know how it is fulfilled that Jesus is the King of the Jews too and even still is Sovereign over the sovereign nationstate of Israel since technically their government is just an elected republic servants of the People (over which Jesus is the King, and frankly he is the King of Kings too, king over every king on this Earth, praise Jesus.)

John 19:17-22

17 And he bearing his cross went forth into a place called the place of a skull, which is called in the Hebrew Golgotha:

18 Where they crucified him, and two other with him, on either side one, and Jesus in the midst.

19 And Pilate wrote a title, and put it on the cross. And the writing was Jesus Of Nazareth The King Of The Jews.

20 This title then read many of the Jews: for the place where Jesus was crucified was nigh to the city: and it was written in Hebrew, and Greek, and Latin.

21 Then said the chief priests of the Jews to Pilate, Write not, The King of the Jews; but that he said, I am King of the Jews.

22 Pilate answered, What I have written I have written.

 

[SonJudgment]

Our only quibble with the dispensationalists is the covenants didn't end even if man breaks or tries to break them (God is faithful even if man is not), it is fulfilled Jesus is the last king of the Davidic or Kingly Covenant and still being alive, still is. But this isn't heresy issue (like denying the Second Coming of the King or outright or his omnipotence and legitimate reign and session at the right hand of power.) It's a quibble issue, it's a debate over how to reckon time essentially.

 

[SonJudgment]

"they are jealous of the true faithful"

Prescient insight.....

It's not my prescience, it's Paul's. It's Romans 11, the famous tree chapter which we all already been over hundreds pages ago, but it's just if you read the whole chapter so many times it just becomes inscribed in the walls of the skull and the tablets of the heart, praise Jesus.

Romans 11:8-16