Revolution in Iran

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Our only quibble with the dispensationalists is the covenants didn't end even if man breaks or tries to break them (God is faithful even if man is not), it is fulfilled Jesus is the last king of the Davidic or Kingly Covenant and still being alive, still is. But this isn't heresy issue (like denying the Second Coming of the King or outright or his omnipotence and legitimate reign and session at the right hand of power.) It's a quibble issue, it's a debate over how to reckon time essentially.
Nope. Dispensationalists do NOT say that all of the covenants have ended. Only 2 out of 8 have been terminated.
Good grief man these posts are right above on this very page!


 
That is speaking about globohomo Israel when they think they have vanquished all of their enemies.

And when [the two witnesses] shall have finished their witness, the beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them. And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves. And they that dwell upon the land shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the land. And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them. Revelation 11:7-11
Yes, God's specialty is to make beloved the forsaken.
And make winners out of losers.

Restoration of Israel

Hos 2:14
Therefore, behold, I will allure her, and bring her into the wilderness, and speak comfortably unto her.

Hos 2:15
And I will give her her vineyards from thence, and the valley of Achor for a door of hope: and she shall sing there, as in the days of her youth, and as in the day when she came up out of the land of Egypt.

Hos 2:16
And it shall be at that day, saith the LORD, that thou shalt call me Ishi; and shalt call me no more Baali.

Hos 2:17
For I will take away the names of Baalim out of her mouth, and they shall no more be remembered by their name.

Hos 2:18
And in that day will I make a covenant for them with the beasts of the field, and with the fowls of heaven, and with the creeping things of the ground: and I will break the bow and the sword and the battle out of the earth, and will make them to lie down safely.

Hos 2:19
And I will betroth thee unto me for ever; yea, I will betroth thee unto me in righteousness, and in judgment, and in lovingkindness, and in mercies.

Hos 2:20
I will even betroth thee unto me in faithfulness: and thou shalt know the LORD.

Hos 2:21
And it shall come to pass in that day, I will hear, saith the LORD, I will hear the heavens, and they shall hear the earth;

Hos 2:22
And the earth shall hear the corn, and the wine, and the oil; and they shall hear Jezreel.

Hos 2:23
And I will sow her unto me in the earth; and I will have mercy upon her that had not obtained mercy; and I will say to them which were not my people, Thou art my people; and they shall say, Thou art my God.
 
Hos 2:23
And I will sow her unto me in the earth; and I will have mercy upon her that had not obtained mercy; and I will say to them which were not my people, Thou art my people; and they shall say, Thou art my God.

Do you ever read Peter's and Paul's writings? They both quote that prophecy as being fulfilled in the believing remnant of Jews and gentiles, ie, the body of Christ.

Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles? As he saith also in Hosea, I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved. And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; there shall they be called the sons of the living God. Romans 9:24-26
But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy. 1 Peter 2:9-10
 
Do you ever read Peter's and Paul's writings? They both quote that prophecy as being fulfilled in the believing remnant of Jews and gentiles, ie, the body of Christ.

Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles? As he saith also in Hosea, I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved. And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; there shall they be called the sons of the living God. Romans 9:24-26
But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy. 1 Peter 2:9-10

Gotta love the double dip... can we make a new label the "Double Dippers" lol
 
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Nope. Dispensationalists do NOT say that all of the covenants have ended. Only 2 out of 8 have been terminated.
Good grief man these posts are right above on this very page!



Well for example the Adamic Covenant is still in force too. The covenants and words of God will never pass away. Heaven and earth will, but not God's words. God's Word made reality itself, God is the ultimate God and master of reality. His words and decrees and covenants are the very architecture of the entire universe. One cannot simply just end a covenant with God or even really break it, it's literally hardcoded into reality , the material universe, and time itself and time we're closer to the end than the beginning so therefore the impression of the covenants are more provable really as we have a larger span of time to examine and they have stood. I do like what you posted though, but again it's a quibble for debate maybe in a different topic, that be fun. Also consider, it's one of those things that proves maddening to the heretics that are particularly antisemitic, much of their lies revolves around hysterically trying to deny the Jews' very existence and origin, and covenants with God, but they can't ever do it because literally the real God made them too, God's decrees and words created all of everything, God's word is the truth in every sense possible very literally and even abstractly too, praise Jesus.
 
Do you ever read Peter's and Paul's writings? They both quote that prophecy as being fulfilled in the believing remnant of Jews and gentiles, ie, the body of Christ.

Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles? As he saith also in Hosea, I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved. And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; there shall they be called the sons of the living God. Romans 9:24-26
But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy. 1 Peter 2:9-10
Many commentators use 1 Peter 2:9–10 to argue for "replacement theology" (supersessionism), claiming the Church has taken over the titles and role of Israel. Fruchtenbaum strongly rejects this, arguing that Peter's words do not conflict with the future national restoration of Israel.

Fruchtenbaum's exegesis rests on two primary pillars:
1. The Targeted Audience: The Jewish Remnant
Fruchtenbaum emphasizes that 1 Peter was written specifically to Jewish believers, not to the Church at large or a Gentile audience.
Throughout Scripture, there are always "two Israels": Israel the Whole (all physical descendants of Jacob) and Israel the Remnant (only those Jews who actively believe and follow God). In the New Testament era, this Jewish Remnant exists inside the body of Messiah (the Church).

"It is important to recognize that the contrast Peter makes here is not between the Church and Israel, or between believers and non-believers, or between unbelieving Jews and believing Gentiles. Rather, the contrast here is between the Remnant and the Non-Remnant of Israel."
— Dr. Arnold Fruchtenbaum

2. Reiterating, Not Transposing, Old Testament Titles
Because Peter is addressing Hebrew Christians, he isn't stripping Israel's titles ("chosen race," "royal priesthood," "holy nation") to pass them off to a new, Gentile-dominated entity. Instead, he is reiterating these foundational covenant identities to the Jewish individuals who actually accepted their Messiah.
Unbelieving Israel had temporarily forfeited the experiential benefits of these titles. However, the believing Jewish remnant still rightfully possessed them.

3. The Context of the Hosea Quote
When Peter references Hosea in verse 10 ("which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God"), he is referencing a strictly Jewish context. In the book of Hosea, God conditionally judged national Israel, declaring them Lo-Ammi ("not my people") and Lo-Ruhamah ("not pitied/no mercy") due to their idolatry.
Fruchtenbaum notes that while the final, glorious fulfillment of Hosea's prophecy awaits the end-time national restoration of all Israel, the spiritual reality of that restoration is already alive in the present-day Jewish Remnant. By placing their faith in Jesus, these Jewish believers have experientially become "God's people" again and have "obtained mercy" ahead of the rest of their nation.

Conclusion
By interpreting 1 Peter 2:9–10 as an address to the Jewish Remnant rather than the Gentile Church, Fruchtenbaum protects the integrity of Old Testament covenants. The Church has not replaced Israel; rather, the Jewish believers within the Church are experiencing a foretaste of the redemption that will one day sweep across the entire nation of Israel.
 
Do you ever read Peter's and Paul's writings? They both quote that prophecy as being fulfilled in the believing remnant of Jews and gentiles, ie, the body of Christ.

Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles? As he saith also in Hosea, I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved. And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; there shall they be called the sons of the living God. Romans 9:24-26
But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy. 1 Peter 2:9-10
And BTW, only a "firstfruits" of Jews entered into the New Covenant during this Church age.

The main harvest of Israel entering into the New Covenant will happen "IN THAT DAY", when, in the midst of the Time of Jacobs trouble, they cry out to their Messiah for deliverance.
 
And BTW, only a "firstfruits" of Jews entered into the New Covenant during this Church age.

The main harvest of Israel entering into the New Covenant will happen "IN THAT DAY", when, in the midst of the Time of Jacobs trouble, they cry out to their Messiah for deliverance.

That's just totally ignorant. A remnant of Jews have believed in Christ throughout the past 2000 years.
 
1. The Targeted Audience: The Jewish Remnant
Fruchtenbaum emphasizes that 1 Peter was written specifically to Jewish believers, not to the Church at large or a Gentile audience.

Fruchtenbaum is a fruitcake. i demonstrated with the 2 verses above "not my people' refers to gentiles. It doesn't make any sense to call children of Israel "not my people'.
 
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Many commentators use 1 Peter 2:9–10 to argue for "replacement theology" (supersessionism), claiming the Church has taken over the titles and role of Israel. Fruchtenbaum strongly rejects this, arguing that Peter's words do not conflict with the future national restoration of Israel.

Fruchtenbaum's exegesis rests on two primary pillars:
1. The Targeted Audience: The Jewish Remnant
Fruchtenbaum emphasizes that 1 Peter was written specifically to Jewish believers, not to the Church at large or a Gentile audience.
Throughout Scripture, there are always "two Israels": Israel the Whole (all physical descendants of Jacob) and Israel the Remnant (only those Jews who actively believe and follow God). In the New Testament era, this Jewish Remnant exists inside the body of Messiah (the Church).

"It is important to recognize that the contrast Peter makes here is not between the Church and Israel, or between believers and non-believers, or between unbelieving Jews and believing Gentiles. Rather, the contrast here is between the Remnant and the Non-Remnant of Israel."
— Dr. Arnold Fruchtenbaum

2. Reiterating, Not Transposing, Old Testament Titles
Because Peter is addressing Hebrew Christians, he isn't stripping Israel's titles ("chosen race," "royal priesthood," "holy nation") to pass them off to a new, Gentile-dominated entity. Instead, he is reiterating these foundational covenant identities to the Jewish individuals who actually accepted their Messiah.
Unbelieving Israel had temporarily forfeited the experiential benefits of these titles. However, the believing Jewish remnant still rightfully possessed them.

3. The Context of the Hosea Quote
When Peter references Hosea in verse 10 ("which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God"), he is referencing a strictly Jewish context. In the book of Hosea, God conditionally judged national Israel, declaring them Lo-Ammi ("not my people") and Lo-Ruhamah ("not pitied/no mercy") due to their idolatry.
Fruchtenbaum notes that while the final, glorious fulfillment of Hosea's prophecy awaits the end-time national restoration of all Israel, the spiritual reality of that restoration is already alive in the present-day Jewish Remnant. By placing their faith in Jesus, these Jewish believers have experientially become "God's people" again and have "obtained mercy" ahead of the rest of their nation.

Conclusion
By interpreting 1 Peter 2:9–10 as an address to the Jewish Remnant rather than the Gentile Church, Fruchtenbaum protects the integrity of Old Testament covenants. The Church has not replaced Israel; rather, the Jewish believers within the Church are experiencing a foretaste of the redemption that will one day sweep across the entire nation of Israel.
When Peter references Hosea in verse 10 ("which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God"), he is referencing a strictly Jewish context. In the book of Hosea, God conditionally judged national Israel, declaring them Lo-Ammi ("not my people") and Lo-Ruhamah ("not pitied/no mercy") due to their idolatry.
 
Fruchtenbaum is a fruitcake. i demonstrated with the 2 verses above "not my people' refers to gentiles. It doesn't make any sense to call children of Israel "not my people'.
You did indeed demonstrate a compelling and quite consistent fact: your abysmal biblical illiteracy, profound ignorance, and breathtaking ultracrepidarian puerility.
 
suppression is a deliberate, conscious effort to push away unwanted thoughts or emotions.
Supersessionism, also known as replacement theology, is a controversial Christian doctrine claiming that the Christian Church has superseded or replaced the Jewish people as God’s chosen people. It posits that the New Covenant through Jesus supersedes the Mosaic covenant, rendering the Jews no longer the primary covenanted community.

Historical Context and Impact
This doctrine emerged as the early Christian Church became increasingly Gentile in the 2nd and 3rd centuries. Historically, hard supersessionism was used to justify the marginalization of Jews in Europe. By characterizing Jews as unfaithful or spiritually blind, historical interpretations of this doctrine tragically fueled centuries of antisemitism, contributing to events like pogroms, expulsions, and the Holocaust.
 
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That's just totally ignorant. A remnant of Jews have believed in Christ throughout the past 2000 years.
A Messianic Jewish (actual bona fide legit) scholar surgically dismantles, denounces, pulverizes the haughty and ignorant pretensions of the supersessionism crew.

Nothing could be more ironic, appropriate or more fitting.
 
The Lord Jesus is talking. To you.
But will you listen?

Jhn 4:22 - Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
Indeed - will you listen? James and John were rebuked for asking if they should command fire come down from heaven and consume a wicked town. Yet some in this very chat have been and are promoting for much greater devastation than this, and for a much less wicked people. In a day when the scriptures have been fulfilled, and God's salvation revealed to us. Will you listen?

Luke 9:54 - 56
And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?
But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.
 
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Iran Is Running Out the Clock And Ezekiel 38 Predicted It

Everyone has been confused about Ezekiel 38, but suppose WW2 was a preview and right in the center of Ezekiel 38 is a surprise attack on those who were at peace and safety, dwelling in unwalled villages, that was the Pearl Harbor attack. Why attack the US, they weren't fighting in the war. Pearl Harbor was a sneak attack to neutralize the US prior to them entering the war. That is what part of Ezekiel 38 describes. Yes, it is a Mid East war with a surprise attack on those who are dwelling in safety.
 
Indeed - will you listen? James and John were rebuked for asking if they should command fire come down from heaven and consume a wicked town. Yet some in this very chat have been and are promoting for much greater devastation than this, and for a much less wicked people. In a day when the scriptures have been fulfilled, and God's salvation revealed to us. Will you listen?

Luke 9:54 - 56
And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?
But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.

I think this is a very worthwhile clip by JD Hall, it ties into salvation is of the Jews .. dispensationalism is slowly coming apart.

 
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Indeed - will you listen? James and John were rebuked for asking if they should command fire come down from heaven and consume a wicked town. Yet some in this very chat have been and are promoting for much greater devastation than this, and for a much less wicked people. In a day when the scriptures have been fulfilled, and God's salvation revealed to us. Will you listen?

Luke 9:54 - 56
And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?
But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.
I have never made any such comment. Not even close. I would rather spare every and any life that I could.
Having said that, when God is moving, I would advise everyone to get out of the way.
 
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And this day is drawing to an end, at least where I am... Harpazo? 👀
Just to let you know:

The harpazo is referred to in some form or fashion in EVERY chapter of 1 Thessalonians.

And then Paul speaks to the harpazo THREE TIMES in sequence in 2 Thessalonians chapter 2.

Oh and BTW there is also his citing of this incident that confirms the false rumor of 2 Thessalonians 2....

[2Ti 2:17-18 KJV] 17 And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus; 18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.
 
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