Rhema acted upon - Key to spiritual growth

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Title: Logos vs Rhema — Why Growth Isn’t Just Information (With Scripture)

There’s a difference that changes everything when you see it clearly: the difference between Logos and Rhema. Most people treat the Word of God as information to learn, but Scripture shows it’s meant to become life within you.

In Romans 10:17:

> “So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word (Rhema) of God.”

This is critical—faith is not produced by information alone, but by revealed Word.

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### 1. Logos — The Written Word Given to All

Logos is the written, recorded Word of God:

In The Gospel of John 1:1:
> “In the beginning was the Word (Logos), and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”

In 2 Timothy 3:16–17:
> “All scripture is given by inspiration of God… that the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.”

Logos is:
- Truth available to all
- The seed that is sown
- The foundation for growth

But Logos alone, without revelation, can remain external.

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### 2. Rhema — The Word Made Alive

Rhema is when the Word becomes living and personal.

In The Gospel of Matthew 16:16–17:
> “Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God…
> Flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.”

Peter had access to the same Scriptures as others—but what changed him was revelation.

In Hebrews 4:12:
> “For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword…”

The Word becomes:
- Alive (quickened)
- Active
- Piercing

This is Rhema—the Logos awakened by God.

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### 3. The Farmer — Man Plants, God Gives Life

In The Gospel of Mark 4:14:
> “The sower soweth the word.”

We engage with the Word—we read, hear, and plant it.

But notice the deeper process:

In 1 Corinthians 3:6–7:
> “I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.
> So then neither is he that planteth any thing… but God that giveth the increase.”

This establishes the order:
- Man plants (Logos)
- God gives increase (Rhema → life)

We do not create life—we position ourselves for God to bring it.

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4. Revelation Is Still a Seed — Not the Harvest

Even when God reveals something, it is not yet fruit.

In The Gospel of John 3:6:
> “That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.”

Rhema is birth, but birth is the beginning—not the end.

This is why Jesus warns in Mark 4 that even true seed can fail depending on the condition of the heart.

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### 5. The Condition of the Heart Determines the Outcome

In The Gospel of Mark 4:18–19:
> “And these are they which are sown among thorns…
> the cares of this world… choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful.”

And:

“…these are they which are sown on good ground… and bring forth fruit…” (Mark 4:20)

Same seed. Different outcomes.

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6. The Role of Diligence — Tending the Garden

This is where many fail—not in hearing, but in cultivating.

In Proverbs 4:23:
“Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life.”

In Proverbs 24:30–31:
“I went by the field of the slothful… and, lo, it was all grown over with thorns… and the stone wall thereof was broken down.”

And:

In Proverbs 13:4:
“The soul of the sluggard desireth, and hath nothing: but the soul of the diligent shall be made fat.”

This shows:
- Desire is not enough
- Hearing is not enough
- Even revelation is not enough

Without diligence, the garden decays.

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### 7. The Call to Action — Do the Word

In James 1:22:
“But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.”

And:

In James 1:25:
“…whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty… being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer… this man shall be blessed in his deed.”

The transition from seed to fruit happens here:
- Obedience -

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### 8. The Full Process of Growth (Scripturally Established)

- Logos given → (2 Timothy 3:16)
- Logos planted → (Mark 4:14)
- God quickens → Rhema → (Romans 10:17, Hebrews 4:12)
- Heart condition determines outcome → (Mark 4:18–20)
- Diligence cultivates growth → (Proverbs 4:23, 13:4)
- Obedience produces fruit → (James 1:22)

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Final Insight

Growth does not happen:
- Just because you read the Word
- Just because you understand it
- Not even just because God reveals it

Growth happens when:

What God reveals is guarded, cultivated, and obeyed until it becomes fruit.

So the real question is not:

“Am I hearing the Word?”

It is:

“Am I doing what God has already revealed to me?”
 
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It takes real discernment and we need to be careful. A rhema word can come in many forms, some can say even a dream which may or may not be from the Lord. The danger comes from you think its from the Lord but its from the enemy who can deceive you.
 
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Yes, this is why it is important to study the word of God. Rhema never contradicts the Logos. Roman’s 10:17 the Greek word for “word”, when it says faith comes by hearing and hearing the Word of God. “Word” here in Greek is not Logos but Rhema. Faith comes by hearing the Rhema word
 
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Logos is head knowledge of scripture. Many people can read the Bible and get a big head and it remains dead knowledge. Rhema is the quickened word of God where the word comes alive. Hebrews 4:12 and John 6:63. Rhema is revelation or God breathed also Rhema is for you at that given moment when that does come alive. Logos and Rhema both mean the Word of God but are different in the aspect as Logos is knowledge and Rhema is revelation. You see this in Matthew 16:18 where Peter confesses Christ. Jesus said “neither flesh and blood has revealed this to you, but my Father in Heaven.” The Rhema is something spirit filled and quickens your spirit, strengthens your spirit, and exposes darkness because it is light. Rhema is the Logos activated. You need both for two edged sword to word. One edge the Logos the other edge the Rhema forming the two edged sword, also meaning twice spoken.
 
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I'm not as eloquent as u but I do know exactly what u mean . The Bible is alive for sure . I know a few people who have read it and it has not made much of an impression on them at all , the have done it as an excercise , the same way I read Moby Dick , I didn't really want to but I felt as if I should 😜 . The Word of God needs to live in us , take root and grown until it fills us to the extent that our flesh is virtually redundant because we r alive only in and through the Truth . I'm not anyway near that yet , still far too much of this world 😞 .
 
The whole video is pretty interesting, but I cued it up toward the end where it gets into detailed definitions of logos and rhema, and how they're used in scripture.

 
You can read the Bible and understand by what you believe it means or you can be lead of the Holy Spirit and see what God is saying it means.
 
the charismatics and Pentecostals believe Rhema is distinct from Logos. Catholics/Orthodox and mainline conversative protectants and Baptists will say no.
 
Logos is head knowledge of scripture. Many people can read the Bible and get a big head and it remains dead knowledge. Rhema is the quickened word of God where the word comes alive. Hebrews 4:12 and John 6:63. Rhema is revelation or God breathed also Rhema is for you at that given moment when that does come alive. Logos and Rhema both mean the Word of God but are different in the aspect as Logos is knowledge and Rhema is revelation. You see this in Matthew 16:18 where Peter confesses Christ. Jesus said “neither flesh and blood has revealed this to you, but my Father in Heaven.” The Rhema is something spirit filled and quickens your spirit, strengthens your spirit, and exposes darkness because it is light. Rhema is the Logos activated. You need both for two edged sword to word. One edge the Logos the other edge the Rhema forming the two edged sword, also meaning twice spoken.

I finished listening to a long sermon from David Yongi Cho a Pentecostal pastor who led the largest congregation in the world with 700,000 members. He preached visions and dreams. It led me down a rabbit hole, and I'm still unconvinced either way it was from the Lord.
 
Title: Logos vs Rhema — Why Growth Isn’t Just Information (With Scripture)

There’s a difference that changes everything when you see it clearly: the difference between Logos and Rhema. Most people treat the Word of God as information to learn, but Scripture shows it’s meant to become life within you.

In Romans 10:17:

> “So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word (Rhema) of God.”

This is critical—faith is not produced by information alone, but by revealed Word.

---

### 1. Logos — The Written Word Given to All

Logos is the written, recorded Word of God:

In The Gospel of John 1:1:
> “In the beginning was the Word (Logos), and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”

In 2 Timothy 3:16–17:
> “All scripture is given by inspiration of God… that the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.”

Logos is:
- Truth available to all
- The seed that is sown
- The foundation for growth

But Logos alone, without revelation, can remain external.

---

### 2. Rhema — The Word Made Alive

Rhema is when the Word becomes living and personal.

In The Gospel of Matthew 16:16–17:
> “Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God…
> Flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.”

Peter had access to the same Scriptures as others—but what changed him was revelation.

In Hebrews 4:12:
> “For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword…”

The Word becomes:
- Alive (quickened)
- Active
- Piercing

This is Rhema—the Logos awakened by God.

---

### 3. The Farmer — Man Plants, God Gives Life

In The Gospel of Mark 4:14:
> “The sower soweth the word.”

We engage with the Word—we read, hear, and plant it.

But notice the deeper process:

In 1 Corinthians 3:6–7:
> “I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.
> So then neither is he that planteth any thing… but God that giveth the increase.”

This establishes the order:
- Man plants (Logos)
- God gives increase (Rhema → life)

We do not create life—we position ourselves for God to bring it.

---
4. Revelation Is Still a Seed — Not the Harvest

Even when God reveals something, it is not yet fruit.

In The Gospel of John 3:6:
> “That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.”

Rhema is birth, but birth is the beginning—not the end.

This is why Jesus warns in Mark 4 that even true seed can fail depending on the condition of the heart.

---

### 5. The Condition of the Heart Determines the Outcome

In The Gospel of Mark 4:18–19:
> “And these are they which are sown among thorns…
> the cares of this world… choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful.”

And:

“…these are they which are sown on good ground… and bring forth fruit…” (Mark 4:20)

Same seed. Different outcomes.

---

6. The Role of Diligence — Tending the Garden

This is where many fail—not in hearing, but in cultivating.

In Proverbs 4:23:
“Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life.”

In Proverbs 24:30–31:
“I went by the field of the slothful… and, lo, it was all grown over with thorns… and the stone wall thereof was broken down.”

And:

In Proverbs 13:4:
“The soul of the sluggard desireth, and hath nothing: but the soul of the diligent shall be made fat.”

This shows:
- Desire is not enough
- Hearing is not enough
- Even revelation is not enough

Without diligence, the garden decays.

---

### 7. The Call to Action — Do the Word

In James 1:22:
“But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.”

And:

In James 1:25:
“…whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty… being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer… this man shall be blessed in his deed.”

The transition from seed to fruit happens here:
- Obedience -

---

### 8. The Full Process of Growth (Scripturally Established)

- Logos given → (2 Timothy 3:16)
- Logos planted → (Mark 4:14)
- God quickens → Rhema → (Romans 10:17, Hebrews 4:12)
- Heart condition determines outcome → (Mark 4:18–20)
- Diligence cultivates growth → (Proverbs 4:23, 13:4)
- Obedience produces fruit → (James 1:22)

---

Final Insight

Growth does not happen:
- Just because you read the Word
- Just because you understand it
- Not even just because God reveals it

Growth happens when:

What God reveals is guarded, cultivated, and obeyed until it becomes fruit.

So the real question is not:

“Am I hearing the Word?”

It is:

“Am I doing what God has already revealed to me?”

Welcome to CC.
You make a good point by harmonizing Logos with Rhema.
Learning GW does not mean merely knowing what it says,
but cooperating with the HS (Rom. 5:5, 8:5-9, Gal. 5:22-23, cf. Jam. 1:22-25 & 2:19).